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Post#201 » by OxAndFox » Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:33 am

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Just thought you guys might want to know.


I don't wish injuries on any player, but if I wanted one player from the Timberwolves to miss a game KAT would be far down on my list. Gobert is far, far more influential on the game.

But its good to know

Towns has been the Wolves best player this year. 50/40/90 and #2 in the NBA in DRtg.

He’s not the Towns you remember.


The way he was stroking the 3 last time we met was enough for me. The dude was looking in A+ form.

Think what the thinking is, Gobert can shut Domas down and also have an influence around the rim like no other in the NBA.
That's important to the Kings.
I'm an Ant guy. Would prefer not to see him, but it's going to be another good test for Keegan.
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Post#202 » by shrink » Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:42 am

And I’m a big big Keegan guy. I watched all his games at the University of Iowa, and even when he started as a bench player, it was clear to me that it’s his skillset, and moreso his attitude, that this was a guy that could be a good NBA player. In Iowa, he provided everything the team needed when Luka Garza couldn’t, and silently stopped all the best opponent scorers. The only time he’d speak was when he’d get to guard his twin brother in practice! The next year, it was wonderful to see him get a chance to shine out from Garza’s shadow. I was hoping you guys would take him in the draft, and not Ivey like everyone predicted, because I knew he could be great for you. We fans of under-appreciated midmarkets need to have each other’s backs!

Congrats on Keegan, and good luck tomorrow. But not too much luck. You’re one of the few teams that whacked us pretty good already!
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Post#203 » by OxAndFox » Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:47 am

shrink wrote:I’m a big big Keegan guy. I watched all his games at the University of Iowa, and even when he started as a bench player, it was clear to me that it’s his skillset, and moreso his attitude, that this was a guy that could be a good NBA player. In Iowa, he provided everything the team needed when Luka Garza couldn’t, and silently stopped all the best opponent scorers. The only time he’d speak was when he’d get to guard his twin brother in practice! The next year, it was wonderful to see him get a chance to shine out from Garza’s shadow. I was hoping you guys would take him in the draft, and not Ivey like everyone predicted, because I knew he could be great for you. We fans of under-appreciated midmarkets need to have each other’s backs!

Congrats on Keegan, and good luck tomorrow. But not too much luck. You’re one of the few teams that whacked us pretty good already!


Is this like a RealGM takeover of Shrinks account by Kenyon? Love your pod Kenyan! and great to hear some more little tidbits from Iowa!
PS. Yes, let's keep the appreciation of our markets going and have each other's backs!
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Post#204 » by OxAndFox » Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:54 am

As an aside to that. Keegan Murray in December.

19.7/4.5/1.5
71/133 - .533 FG
33/67 - .492 3PT
22/25 - .880 FT
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Re: 2023-24 General Thread 

Post#205 » by KF10 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:01 pm

shrink wrote:And I’m a big big Keegan guy. I watched all his games at the University of Iowa, and even when he started as a bench player, it was clear to me that it’s his skillset, and moreso his attitude, that this was a guy that could be a good NBA player. In Iowa, he provided everything the team needed when Luka Garza couldn’t, and silently stopped all the best opponent scorers. The only time he’d speak was when he’d get to guard his twin brother in practice! The next year, it was wonderful to see him get a chance to shine out from Garza’s shadow. I was hoping you guys would take him in the draft, and not Ivey like everyone predicted, because I knew he could be great for you. We fans of under-appreciated midmarkets need to have each other’s backs!

Congrats on Keegan, and good luck tomorrow. But not too much luck. You’re one of the few teams that whacked us pretty good already!


Keegan is a great dude. We are lucky to have him!

Good luck today!
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Post#206 » by City of Trees » Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:46 pm

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Post#207 » by OxAndFox » Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:37 am

Did see that LEBRON list on X. Keegan is just scratching the surface on what he can become. Some good words from KD about him too.

Surprised Jabari Smith isn't on that list. His shooting has improved a lot and his D has gone to a new level. I guess with this being a box score type stat he hasn't gone up THAT much in certain areas.
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Post#208 » by BoogieTime » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:06 am

bro, just forfeit the b2b games this team has to play.

and change the style of the team if they can't play that many games
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Post#209 » by Lost in LA » Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:16 pm

Agreed.

Brown does not seem to trust his bench players except Monk, and so the starters cannot play 35 minutes every night and run up and down the floor and make 3's. I could not understand why all the starters bar Huerter played 35 mins against Phoenix even though we were up double digits most of the game. Huerter cannot not hit a barn door again, and perhaps we need a reliable guard as much as a wing, to help give Fox a rest at times. If we cannot make 3's we have no plan B. Again though, going inside also gets wearing and we do not have a real forward in the mould of say, Brian Grant.
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Post#210 » by LightTheBeam » Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:20 am

Kings and losing games to crap teams who are undermanned. It's a tradition
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Post#211 » by Lost in LA » Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:21 am

Really bad loss tonight, inexcusable. We stopped going to the hoop and got casual. Brown has to answer some questions tonight as well as the players.
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Re: 2023-24 General Thread 

Post#212 » by City of Trees » Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:25 am

Hornets score 17 pts off 21 Kings turnovers. That's your recap
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Post#213 » by KF10 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:34 am

That was an awful performance against the Hornets.
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Post#214 » by OxAndFox » Wed Jan 3, 2024 7:20 am

So, the Kings lose to Portland and Charlotte in the last fortnight. Both games players came out with low intensity and pretty obviously didn't care.
Don't want to hear anything about playing B2B in the NBA any more. The Charlotte Hornets who are garbage come off playing Denver the night before and win against the current #5 seed Kings. Yeah B2B is just a lazy way to make excuses.
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Post#215 » by KF10 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 9:33 pm

OxAndFox wrote:So, the Kings lose to Portland and Charlotte in the last fortnight. Both games players came out with low intensity and pretty obviously didn't care.
Don't want to hear anything about playing B2B in the NBA any more. The Charlotte Hornets who are garbage come off playing Denver the night before and win against the current #5 seed Kings. Yeah B2B is just a lazy way to make excuses.


100%

They expected the Hornets to roll over. It's highly frustrating as fans to see this regularly.

Where is the internal leadership? Coach Brown is saying the right things to the players but it seems like the players aren't doing their jobs in holding themselves accountable.
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Post#216 » by OxAndFox » Wed Jan 3, 2024 10:23 pm

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OxAndFox wrote:So, the Kings lose to Portland and Charlotte in the last fortnight. Both games players came out with low intensity and pretty obviously didn't care.
Don't want to hear anything about playing B2B in the NBA any more. The Charlotte Hornets who are garbage come off playing Denver the night before and win against the current #5 seed Kings. Yeah B2B is just a lazy way to make excuses.


100%

They expected the Hornets to roll over. It's highly frustrating as fans to see this regularly.

Where is the internal leadership? Coach Brown is saying the right things to the players but it seems like the players aren't doing their jobs in holding themselves accountable.


Absolutely. We all know teams go through these portions of the season with bad losses, but this is a tight race and losses like these aren't acceptable due to effort. If they're missing shots and just have a bad shooting night, but the effort is there defensively, fine, but it simply wasn't there from the first whistle.
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Re: 2023-24 General Thread 

Post#217 » by codydaze » Thu Jan 4, 2024 2:08 am

I really struggle to understand why Sasha is not a part of the rotation. Lack of defense can't be an acceptable answer since our defense is awful with or without him in the lineup. There's no reason he should be picking up DNPs.
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Post#218 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:03 am

codydaze wrote:I really struggle to understand why Sasha is not a part of the rotation. Lack of defense can't be an acceptable answer since our defense is awful with or without him in the lineup. There's no reason he should be picking up DNPs.


I haven't been impressed. I wouldnt think there is an ulterior reason
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Post#219 » by OxAndFox » Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:00 pm

Just want to put this out there. 2 points. IMO Kevin's finger injury is nowhere near healed. He should be held out until he is fully healed. Not every player needs to play through injury. Get Colby in and let him play some minutes until he's right.

#2 Have a look at Heurters stats when he plays over 30 minutes. This season. It's insane.
19.7/6.5/4.0
.512 FG%
.451 3P%
.818 FT%

132 ORtg
112 DRtg
18.5 USG%

Coach Brown doesn't need to play Kevin less, he needs to play him more and get him into 32mpg and a consistent role, not low 20s or late teens. Too difficult for a feel shooter to play at his best.
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Post#220 » by OGSactownballer » Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:42 pm

codydaze wrote:I really struggle to understand why Sasha is not a part of the rotation. Lack of defense can't be an acceptable answer since our defense is awful with or without him in the lineup. There's no reason he should be picking up DNPs.


This part here.

Especially since every time I see the man play he aftually plays hard core man defense and just gets the usual NBA new guy screw job on calls.

And being that he is the ideal stretch PF, why he is not getting consistent minutes to get his shot smoothed just reinforces my personal feeling that while Mike Brown is a “good” coach, he is not an”great” or championship coach by a long shot.

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