Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24

[BK_2020]

I think putting Holiday/White on Shai was the wrong move. Granted he did hit some tough shots on White but we needed either Jays on him for the majority of the game which would’ve made it at least tougher for him to work for his baskets.

It just wasn't Jrue's night. Normally he would be our best perimeter defender other than motivated Tatum.
Jaylen can't stay with SGA. He would've fouled out in a quarter or just let him score.

[CelticsPride18]

Meh. I don’t want the Jays on SGA for a full game in January. They lost because of Giddey fugazi shooting game.

[Bad-Thoma]

Blow it up. This team is terrible.

[Bad-Thoma]

Blow it up. This team is terrible.

[KillahGhostface]

Blow it up. This team is terrible.

Blow it up. This team is terrible.

[Fencer reregistered]

Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.

Holiday is a sizable upgrade on Smart. He just had a stinker tonight, it happens.

When White had been with the team as long as Holiday has now, he seemed like a terrible scorer.

[playa-hater]

Before it was Kornet or Queta.. Now It' Kornet > Hauser?? Can someone explain why Hauser played only 10 minutes?? That is Joe doing some WTF things. Imagine benching Sam who is a good 2 way player for a slow footed center against a fast team. And that is with Brown already having a horrible shooting game.

[KillahGhostface]

Before it was Kornet or Queta.. Now It' Kornet > Hauser?? Can someone explain why Hauser played only 10 minutes?? That is Joe doing some WTF things. Imagine benching Sam who is a good 2 way player for a slow footed center against a fast team. And that is with Brown already having a horrible shooting game.

Hauser got wrecked on the defensive end.

Teams have stopped iso’ing him, and now make him chase guys around. He’s not physically equipped to do that, and we’ve seen that over the past few weeks.

[Sweet Serenity]

Before it was Kornet or Queta.. Now It' Kornet > Hauser?? Can someone explain why Hauser played only 10 minutes?? That is Joe doing some WTF things. Imagine benching Sam who is a good 2 way player for a slow footed center against a fast team. And that is with Brown already having a horrible shooting game.

Because Hauser was getting cooked defensively.
Do you guys who blame Joe for everything even watch the games ? lol

[shackles10]

We had 2 starters with really rough games (I swear Jaylen missed more shots than he did and I swear Jrue had more turnovers than the box score shows as well) and started to make what I thought would be a fake comeback. Turned out to be a real comeback and with more time on the clock or a shoe size smaller for KP and JB making that one extra ft when the comeback was not quite real we tie the game. Thunder are a tough, young team and being on the road I'm ok with the loss. We aren't going to win them all, just want to give yourselves a chance to win them all and we did that.

The schedule still confuses the **** out of me with how tough January looks yet we have one of the easiest remaining schedules? It must get really easy from February on I guess. Either way play the games on the schedule and win 4 out of 5 each time and you're in good shape. Need a better game from JB next time around and Jrue to get healthy.

[Celts17Pride]

Meh. I don’t want the Jays on SGA for a full game in January. They lost because of Giddey fugazi shooting game.

Giddey and Chet Holmgren hit 2 big three pointers late in the 4th quarter.

[shackles10]

Meh. I don’t want the Jays on SGA for a full game in January. They lost because of Giddey fugazi shooting game.

Giddey and Chet Holmgren hit 2 big three pointers late in the 4th quarter.

I know you've got to give up something, but Chet's especially were so wide open and not much of a contest from Zinger either.

[fallguy]

I mean, it’s very good - how good is it compared to the elite teams of the past? There is no top-10 or 20 player, no Lebron, Curry, Duncan. It’s probably better than the famed ‘04 pistons team but they at least had one area where they were elite in, this team is very deep across the rotation and good in all areas but not high level elite at anything imo, at least in an all time sense like most title winners are.

This team is as good as many past champions. Jayson Tatum is a top five player in this league right now.

Where someone ranks on the all-time list doesn’t matter if they aren’t playing at their peak during the championship run. Tim Duncan in his last championship year was not at his peak for example. You compare them to to 2004 Pistons. What about the Bad Boy Pistons. None of those guy are legit top ten of all time or in the category of Duncan and Lebron.

Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Curry, KD, AD, Luka clearly ahead of him. There's no way Tatum is in the convo for top 5. It's arguable SGA and Haliburton are ahead though they don't have Tatum's defense or the track record. Butler doesn't have Tatum's numbers but we know that he's in the same tier. I think Tatum belongs in the cluster of late top 10.
Meanwhile the Big Three Celtics had KG who was a top 3 player at worst, Pierce who was clearly top 10, and Ray Allen clearly top 15.
Also we are supposed to have won 70% of the games last year on talent alone despite Joe's bad coaching yet all the former Celtics are stinking it up.

Agree with most of your list. But would excise Haliburton and I expect AD will eventually fall off when he gets hurt. But your point stands. Tatum, however great he has been, isn't top-5 this season.

I think (?) most of the angst on the board with respect to Tatum speaks to a lack of confidence that he can elevate to be a top-5 player for three rounds of the playoffs (we won't need it in round one). Even with our talent advantage, we'll need Tatum to be That Guy™ for the final three rounds. It's fair to wonder if he will be, given that he hasn't done it yet. But it's also fair to believe this is his year given what we've seen from him so far.

[Celts17Pride]

Meh. I don’t want the Jays on SGA for a full game in January. They lost because of Giddey fugazi shooting game.

Giddey and Chet Holmgren hit 2 big three pointers late in the 4th quarter.

I know you've got to give up something, but Chet's especially were so wide open and not much of a contest from Zinger either.

Got to give him credit, he hit them.

[Lee Van Cleef]

We lost to a good team, on the road, without getting humiliated. We came back from 15-16 down, forced the issue till the last possession. I guess I can live with this. As long as we win at home and .500 on the road, we will finish the season with 60+ wins, and that's good enough.

[KillahGhostface]

Agree with most of your list. But would excise Haliburton and I expect AD will eventually fall off when he gets hurt. But your point stands. Tatum, however great he has been, isn't top-5 this season.

I think (?) most of the angst on the board with respect to Tatum speaks to a lack of confidence that he can elevate to be a top-5 player for three rounds of the playoffs (we won't need it in round one). Even with our talent advantage, we'll need Tatum to be That Guy™ for the final three rounds. It's fair to wonder if he will be, given that he hasn't done it yet. But it's also fair to believe this is his year given what we've seen from him so far.

There’s only three guys that I’d take over Tatum in a playoff run. Jokic, Giannis, and Steph. He may not be a top 5 regular season player, but we don’t need that. We need him to be that guy in the playoffs, and we will 100% get that. I’m going to quote my post from last night that got lost in the post game raging shuffle lol.

Come playoff time, it’ll be more Tatum centric. Guaranteed, 100% lock.

He’s just picking his spots, and still averaging 27 on a 60% TS.

I cannot stress enough how much of a monster playoffs Tatum is going to have. The stuff he’s made the leaps in just scream playoff basketball. Mid range, post ups, iso scoring, he’s been one of the best in the league at all of them. And for the people yelling for more drives, it’s well documented that Tatum always significantly ups his drive game in the playoffs.

And that’s while sharing the floor with bench crews a ton. In the playoffs when he’s out there with KP most of the time? Nah, lights out for other defenses.

[shackles10]

No Quentin Grimes on anybody's list above Tatum? Sometimes you guys really disappoint me...

[playa-hater]

Before it was Kornet or Queta.. Now It' Kornet > Hauser?? Can someone explain why Hauser played only 10 minutes?? That is Joe doing some WTF things. Imagine benching Sam who is a good 2 way player for a slow footed center against a fast team. And that is with Brown already having a horrible shooting game.

Because Hauser was getting cooked defensively.
Do you guys who blame Joe for everything even watch the games ? lol

Clearly I don't blame joe for everything. If you look on the first page, I clearly stated j r u e and brown had the worst games.. And hauser getting wrecked defensively is an exaggeration. And if you want to make that comparison, then how is it cornet? Who is horrible on defense Most of the year gets to play at all? Furthermore, boston's defense was bad throughout most of the game, and sam only played ten minutes so pumping this on sam is comedy in itself. Do you even watch the games.

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Not sure if he could actually help at all but kind of warming up to the idea of trading for Kris Dunn.

[tfribs45]

Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.

Holiday is a sizable upgrade on Smart. He just had a stinker tonight, it happens.

meh not so sure it's a sizeable upgrade TBH. Smahht brought a lot to the table and was under appreciated....That being said, Brad was lucky as #$%@ that the Bucks traded for Lillard. This team would be incomplete without Holiday, all we need is an enforcer type player at the 5 to help rim protect and bring that attitude into the playoffs! C's looking good so far and Joey has enough coaches on the sidelines pulling the strings. C's set up nicely for a run at 18