T&T board top 5 worst contracts re-do: Vote for #3

[Dr Positivity]

1. Bradley Beal (3 years, 149.9 million + 57.1 million 4th year player option) (contains no trade clause)
2. Jordan Poole (4 years, 127.6 million)

Please vote for who has the least trade value of these nominees including play, age, salary, health, etc. and not just the worst player or who deserves their contract the least.

Also nominate a new player to replace them on the list.

Nominees:



Ben Simmons (2 years, 88.3. million)



John Collins (2 years, 51.9 million + 26.6 million 3rd year player option)



Deandre Ayton (3 years, 102.1 million)



Zach LaVine (3 years, 129.1 million + 49.0 4th year player option)



Draymond Green (4 years, 100 million)

[MoneyTalks41890]

Now it starts. I’ll say Ben Simmons. It’s just a lot of money for a guy who can’t stay healthy and seems to be still experiencing the yips.

[Dr Positivity]

Vote Deandre Ayton

I think nobody wants to eat 30 million+ for this type of center anymore, BS gives you nothing for 40 mil but is one year shorter.

Nominate Andrew Wiggins

[Colbinii]

V: DeAndre Ayton

No realistic path to being an average/above average starter, let alone all-star. Really disappointing on-court and off-court, when centers who can start around his level can make MLE or less money.

N: Andrew Wiggins

[esvl]

Vote: Green
Nominate: Zion

[BBallFreak]

Vote Ben Simmons
Nominate Andrew Wiggins

[TheBrooklynKidd]

V: Ayton
N: Jaylen Brown

[tester551]

V: Simmons
N: Brown

[HornetJail]

Vote: Simmons
Nominate: Barrett

[meekrab]

Simmons but I could see arguments for any of them.

Nom FVV

[TheNetsFan]

Vote: Green (I don't think anyone outside of GSW wants him)
Nominate: Ayton

With respect to Simmons or anyone else expiring in a year and a half, this year's books are pretty set. I don't see those players much different now versus this offseason, especially for a rebuilding/tanking team. They're costing you one offseason of opportunity cost at this point.

[Domejandro]

Pretty comfortably Ben Simmons. While I like him as a player, his lack of availability makes that a hard contract to move.

On that note, nominate Lonzo Ball.

[Wolveswin]

V: Simmons
N: Grant

[Colbinii]

Pretty comfortably Ben Simmons. While I like him as a player, his lack of availability makes that a hard contract to move.

On that note, nominate Lonzo Ball.

Ball is expiring next year at 15% of the cap. There are worse contracts.

[Wolveswin]

Vote: Green (I don't think anyone outside of GSW wants him)
Nominate: Ayton

With respect to Simmons or anyone else expiring in a year and a half, this year's books are pretty set. I don't see those players much different now versus this offseason, especially for a rebuilding/tanking team. They're costing you one offseason of opportunity cost at this point.

Ayton is already on the list.

Simmons (and others) is about zero production for big money.

Others who have longer/bigger contracts (like Poole) provide production but are overpaid.

[giberish]

Vote: Ben Simmons

IMO there's a 'big 3' of bad contracts and the others went 1 and 2. Even with just 1.5 seasons $60M for nothing is a lot of bad money. Take $60M off the other's contracts and they'd all have clear positive value. (this is like getting Draymond at $10M/ry).

Nom: Ball

Due to health, essentially a half-price Simmons which is less bad but still pretty bad.

[Clav]

V Simmons
N DeAndre hunter

[Domejandro]

Pretty comfortably Ben Simmons. While I like him as a player, his lack of availability makes that a hard contract to move.

On that note, nominate Lonzo Ball.

Ball is expiring next year at 15% of the cap. There are worse contracts.

For every contract on this list, I can see a context where a team would consider exchanging an expiring contract for the player. In contrast, zero teams would trade an expiring contract for Lonzo Ball. No team wants to spend 15% of their cap space on a (functionally) dead contract, availability is a huge indicator for value.

[babyjax13]

Green
Wiggins

[Colbinii]

Pretty comfortably Ben Simmons. While I like him as a player, his lack of availability makes that a hard contract to move.

On that note, nominate Lonzo Ball.

Ball is expiring next year at 15% of the cap. There are worse contracts.

For every contract on this list, I can see a context where a team would consider exchanging an expiring contract for the player. In contrast, zero teams would trade an expiring contract for Lonzo Ball. No team wants to spend 15% of their cap space on a (functionally) dead contract, availability is a huge indicator for value.

I'd rather eat Ball for a year than be stuck paying a 13/11 big who can't pass, has a limited offensive game and limited offensive upside, and doesn't defend at a high level for 3 more years at a larger number.