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Team Compete 1.0 - Knicks Fleeced Again! A Brand New Era 

Post#1 » by NinjaBro » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:27 am

Haven't enjoyed watching the Raps this much since the championship era. We got 2 future superstars in Barnes and IQ, amazing. Games will be so fun to watch from now on. RIP tWo.

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Post#2 » by JN » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:31 am

I think it can be a deal that helps both teams given the roster compositions of both teams, pre and post trade.
But it makes us better, and that's all that matters to me.
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Post#3 » by Childs » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:32 am

It's only 2 games. Both teams got what they wanted, I don't know what you mean by fleeced. This isn't like the Bargnani trade.
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Post#4 » by Zeno » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:33 am

It is a wonderful thing. I don’t think it was a fleecing. Win win. But a team rarely gets to point where they need a trade as badly as we did.
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Post#5 » by Boogie! » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:37 am

Childs wrote:It's only 2 games. Both teams got what they wanted, I don't know what you mean by fleeced. This isn't like the Bargnani trade.


It's fleeced because the collective return for what we got was better. Og is a solid player, but we got 2 solid players for the price of one, both young with ipside but fit our team already anf make us better already. Plus we dumped the worst player in the nba.

Og helps the knicks, but he's not taking them over the top. If we paid og what he wanted it would've been a mistake for what he does for our team. Barrett alone does things og can only ever dream about. I'm glad new yoek is happy, but on talent this was a steal for us.
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Post#6 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:38 am

OG was always going to get us the best return.
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Post#7 » by blastttOFF » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:38 am

Their bench now sucks lol
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Post#8 » by Blazing_royale » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:39 am

Chill. Trade worked out for both, no need to do this.
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Post#9 » by ontnut » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:40 am

Fleeced? No. Fleeced was trading Bargnani for a top 10 pick.
This trade helps us, and the Knicks. Who got the best player in the deal will be decided in 2-3 years probably. They needed OG more than IQ, and we were the opposite.
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Post#10 » by Andrew_M08 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 3:55 am

It's been two games since the trade, and we've beaten two mid teams and are about to go on a lengthy road trip. This team still needs a lot of work
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Post#12 » by Drakeem » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:31 am

New York is looking to add a big name sooner rather than later, and when Mitchell or whoever comes, OG is the perfect player you need to pair up with a guy like that.

We needed more people who could initiate offense and dribble because Barnes and Siakam might be decent for bigger bodied guys, but Kyrie Irving they are not. It allows both of them to be more selective when and where they initiate offense.

Both teams won. Different teams have different styles which need different players.
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Post#13 » by agkagk » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:51 am

Boogie! wrote:
Childs wrote:It's only 2 games. Both teams got what they wanted, I don't know what you mean by fleeced. This isn't like the Bargnani trade.


It's fleeced because the collective return for what we got was better. Og is a solid player, but we got 2 solid players for the price of one, both young with ipside but fit our team already anf make us better already. Plus we dumped the worst player in the nba.

Og helps the knicks, but he's not taking them over the top. If we paid og what he wanted it would've been a mistake for what he does for our team. Barrett alone does things og can only ever dream about. I'm glad new yoek is happy, but on talent this was a steal for us.



Og was +35 tonight.

His team won by 16.

Thats a little more than solid.
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Post#14 » by PercyJames_ » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:53 am

I'm no longer sleeping through games. This was a good trade for both teams.

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Post#15 » by Boogie! » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:56 am

agkagk wrote:
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Childs wrote:It's only 2 games. Both teams got what they wanted, I don't know what you mean by fleeced. This isn't like the Bargnani trade.


It's fleeced because the collective return for what we got was better. Og is a solid player, but we got 2 solid players for the price of one, both young with ipside but fit our team already anf make us better already. Plus we dumped the worst player in the nba.

Og helps the knicks, but he's not taking them over the top. If we paid og what he wanted it would've been a mistake for what he does for our team. Barrett alone does things og can only ever dream about. I'm glad new yoek is happy, but on talent this was a steal for us.



Og was +35 tonight.

His team won by 16.

Thats a little more than solid.


You guys really need to stop just looking at box score numbers when assessing talent and potential.
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Post#16 » by Scase » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:56 am

It was a win win trade, no one got fleeced.
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Post#17 » by agkagk » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:59 am

Boogie! wrote:
agkagk wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
It's fleeced because the collective return for what we got was better. Og is a solid player, but we got 2 solid players for the price of one, both young with ipside but fit our team already anf make us better already. Plus we dumped the worst player in the nba.

Og helps the knicks, but he's not taking them over the top. If we paid og what he wanted it would've been a mistake for what he does for our team. Barrett alone does things og can only ever dream about. I'm glad new yoek is happy, but on talent this was a steal for us.



Og was +35 tonight.

His team won by 16.

Thats a little more than solid.


You guys really need to stop just looking at box score numbers when assessing talent and potential.



And you need to take a closer look at how disruptive og’s d really is.

Ive been sitting courtside for twenty years.

Hes the best pure defender since artest.

He is incredibly elite. Not solid.


Now that og is on espn, the media and twitter will change your mind next year, dont worry!

Seriously folks, what are the future odds on og winning dpoy next year?
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Post#18 » by MavCarter » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:00 am

No one got fleeced. The trade was good for both sides
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Post#19 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:01 am

jesus why does it have to be so polarizing. :lol: :lol: no wonder Raptors fans are hated in the general sub.
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Post#20 » by Boogie! » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:02 am

agkagk wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
agkagk wrote:

Og was +35 tonight.

His team won by 16.

Thats a little more than solid.


You guys really need to stop just looking at box score numbers when assessing talent and potential.



And you need to take a closer look at how disruptive og’s d really is.

Ive been sitting courtside for twenty years.

Hes the best pure defender since artest.

He is incredibly elite. Not solid.


The media will change your mind next year, dont worry!

Seriously folks, what the future odds on og winning dpoy next year?


Great defender becomes solid player because that’s how limited he is offensively. You can keep talking about how great is defense is all you want I never denied it. He’s not worth investing in long term unless your team is already stacked with stars and competing for a championship. Marcus smart was dpoy for the Celtics, they traded him, are still great, and he looks like **** now. I’m happy with the trade and I have no concern about debating the merits of og anunlby. I know who he is and will contend we won the trade.
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