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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#141 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:22 am

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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#142 » by Ursusamericanus » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:23 am

I'm a bit concerned about the minutes load for JB, Randle, and IHart right now. It's clear our bench is weak... I think the trade is going to bring us a new starting SG so DDV comes off the bench as the spark.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#143 » by stuporman » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:24 am

The Knicks will miss the sheer production of RJ and IQ more than they realize if either Randle or Brunson cease to be getting 50ppg together...the former accounted for 30ppg themselves, they will lose games without the latter getting theirs every game.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#144 » by TrueWarrior » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:24 am

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You don't need a microwave scorer off the bench, contenders generally don't have guys that are 6th man of the year, the exceptions being Manu and McHale, outside of that it's pointless to waste money on guys like Clarkson. Whoever they trade for should be a starter level player, it's completely unneeded.


I agree with this.

We dont need an inefficient chucker off the bench.

We do need another playmaker at least though. McBride is bad on offense and stagnates. Grimes just catches and shoots and attacks a closeout sometimes.

Malcolm Brogdon come over.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#145 » by HighRyzer83 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:26 am

All we need is another big guard ball handler opposite of brunson. Who can also shoot and defend. No **** Rokas can be that guy. If he wants playing time, he can get IQ time which is 20-30 minutes a game. That's a lot. Then he can earn the starting job at the 2. Dude is mad sus hiding there in Europe.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#146 » by robillionaire » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:26 am

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I don't think he is mentally ready to come off the bench. He will need a season or two to reconsider his role, just like Melo did.


He can still get his points which I think is the most important thing as he's a FA at the end of the season. Maybe start him and then stagger him as the game goes on with the 2nd unit. He likely would not cost the Knicks all that much given age and his rental status.

Alternatives- for a "microwave bench scorer" that has been mentioned is a guy like Jordan Clarkson who also likely not cost an arm and a leg. He can give you plenty of bench scoring and creation and is on a relatively cheap contract (3 years $55 million signed before the season).

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You don't need a microwave scorer off the bench, contenders generally don't have guys that are 6th man of the year, the exceptions being Manu and McHale, outside of that it's pointless to waste money on guys like Clarkson. Whoever they trade for should be a starter level player, it's completely unneeded.


Lakers had Lamar Odom who won 6moty, Thunder had harden, mavericks had Jason Terry, the last two in Brogdon and Herro were on teams who at least had trips to the finals/conference finals. You don’t need it but I don’t think it’s unheard of or completely unneeded either. On the other hand if you get a starter level player you can push someone else down to the bench and beef it up that way
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#147 » by HighRyzer83 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:28 am

It's crazy how these confident wings change their energy when they get OG
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Post#148 » by TrueWarrior » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:31 am

Hyaena wrote:I'm a bit concerned about the minutes load for JB, Randle, and IHart right now. It's clear our bench is weak... I think the trade is going to bring us a new starting SG so DDV comes off the bench as the spark.


Love Donte and hes been scoring and shooting better than expected this season, but not sure if he is a 6th man kind of guy who can create well on his own. He gets most of his points off the gravity of Brunson and Randle. A great fit with them and he should remain starting until a clearly better option comes.

It’s Grimes and McBride who need to show us what they can do on offense. Ive said enough about them for now though.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#150 » by moocow007 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:32 am

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He had a hell of an audition though. 28 points on 11/13 from the field which included 3/3 from 3 lol.

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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#151 » by Jose7 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:33 am

what an enjoyable product this game... 1 down, 2 more to go. But I am so happy not to watch RJ Barrett play basketball as a Knick replaced with OG...product is 100X better to watch.. not gonna win in the NBA with a single trick pony ball dominant wing who can't shoot, has no touch and has no handle.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#152 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:35 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
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You don't need a microwave scorer off the bench, contenders generally don't have guys that are 6th man of the year, the exceptions being Manu and McHale, outside of that it's pointless to waste money on guys like Clarkson. Whoever they trade for should be a starter level player, it's completely unneeded.


I agree with this.

We dont need an inefficient chucker off the bench.

We do need another playmaker at least though. McBride is bad on offense and stagnates. Grimes just catches and shoots and attacks a closeout sometimes.

Malcolm Brogdon DeJounte Murray come over.


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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#153 » by Ursusamericanus » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:35 am

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Hyaena wrote:I'm a bit concerned about the minutes load for JB, Randle, and IHart right now. It's clear our bench is weak... I think the trade is going to bring us a new starting SG so DDV comes off the bench as the spark.


Love Donte and hes been scoring and shooting better than expected this season, but not sure if he is a 6th man kind of guy who can create well on his own. He gets most of his points off the gravity of Brunson and Randle. A great fit with them and he should remain starting until a clearly better option comes.

It’s Grimes and McBride who need to show us what they can do on offense. Ive said enough about them for now though.


Yeah that's a valid point - but where would you want to see DDV go if someone like Murray comes to NY? I'm guessing Murray would start. But who knows, maybe Murray would be the 6th man and DDV would retain his starting spot.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#154 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:37 am

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He had a hell of an audition though. 28 points on 11/13 from the field which included 3/3 from 3 lol.

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Saw a stat he was 3-14 against OG I don’t even remember him making a shot over OG.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#155 » by bigtimeRC3 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:40 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
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You don't need a microwave scorer off the bench, contenders generally don't have guys that are 6th man of the year, the exceptions being Manu and McHale, outside of that it's pointless to waste money on guys like Clarkson. Whoever they trade for should be a starter level player, it's completely unneeded.


I agree with this.

We dont need an inefficient chucker off the bench.

We do need another playmaker at least though. McBride is bad on offense and stagnates. Grimes just catches and shoots and attacks a closeout sometimes.

Malcolm Brogdon come over.


we have fournier whos supposed to be our microwave....
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Post#156 » by TrueWarrior » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:40 am

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Hyaena wrote:I'm a bit concerned about the minutes load for JB, Randle, and IHart right now. It's clear our bench is weak... I think the trade is going to bring us a new starting SG so DDV comes off the bench as the spark.


Love Donte and hes been scoring and shooting better than expected this season, but not sure if he is a 6th man kind of guy who can create well on his own. He gets most of his points off the gravity of Brunson and Randle. A great fit with them and he should remain starting until a clearly better option comes.

It’s Grimes and McBride who need to show us what they can do on offense. Ive said enough about them for now though.


Yeah that's a valid point - but where would you want to see DDV go if someone like Murray comes to NY? I'm guessing Murray would start. But who knows, maybe Murray would be the 6th man.


If we did get Murray, who Im 50/50 on depending on the price, then he would probably start and then get staggered to run the 2nd unit. Donte would go back to the bench most likely, but hes such a great fit with the starters so who knows.

I dont think Dejounte is a smart trade at the cost it would take. Id get Brogdon for our crap like Fournier and a protected 1st tho.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#157 » by moocow007 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:44 am

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He had a hell of an audition though. 28 points on 11/13 from the field which included 3/3 from 3 lol.

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Saw a stat he was 3-14 against OG I don’t even remember him making a shot over OG.


You don't mean this game do you? Derozan only took 13 shots all night (unless there's a typo...didn't get to watch the game). Made 10 of them including 3-4 from 3 and 5 free throws made. Now he definitely deferred a lot more when OG was guarding him. But that's why Derozan's FG% is always been real good for a perimeter player. He knows when to shoot and not.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#158 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:49 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
You don't need a microwave scorer off the bench, contenders generally don't have guys that are 6th man of the year, the exceptions being Manu and McHale, outside of that it's pointless to waste money on guys like Clarkson. Whoever they trade for should be a starter level player, it's completely unneeded.


I agree with this.

We dont need an inefficient chucker off the bench.

We do need another playmaker at least though. McBride is bad on offense and stagnates. Grimes just catches and shoots and attacks a closeout sometimes.

Malcolm Brogdon come over.


Brogdon would be great. But Sexton isn't an inefficient chucker. He's consistently near 60% TS.

Also, plenty of champions had bench guys who basically just got buckets.

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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#159 » by DaGawd » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:54 am

lol rap fans are on pure ecstasy about iq after tonight’s performance :lol:
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Post#160 » by Galvationknicks » Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:03 am

DaGawd wrote:lol rap fans are on pure ecstasy about iq after tonight’s performance :lol:


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