NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued)

[DrModesty]

Bad game for SGA against the hapless Hawks...

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Bad game? He went 33/13/8.

[eyeatoma]

Bad game for SGA against the hapless Hawks...

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Bad game? He went 33/13/8.

That was before the game ended, finished with that much, but look at his efficiency. Only 458, for someone who usually is in the high 50s for fg%.

You can have good stats and still play poorly.

[DrModesty]

Bad game for SGA against the hapless Hawks...

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Bad game? He went 33/13/8.

That was before the game ended, finished with that much, but look at his efficiency. Only 458, for someone who usually is in the high 50s for fg%.

You can have good stats and still play poorly.

But it wasn't that he was playing poorly. He was taking his normal shots, but early they just didn't drop. He was unequivocally good tonight. 13 Rebounds and the second leading rebounder on the team got 4. 8 assists to only 2 turnovers. Made a flurry of buckets in the clutch to give them a chance to take the game to OT.

The reason they lost is OKC as a whole didn't play good defense... on a back to back, away, with travel issues, after an emotionally charged win against the Celtics.

You can miss shots and still play well.

[eyeatoma]

Bad game? He went 33/13/8.

That was before the game ended, finished with that much, but look at his efficiency. Only 458, for someone who usually is in the high 50s for fg%.

You can have good stats and still play poorly.

But it wasn't that he was playing poorly. He was taking his normal shots, but early they just didn't drop. He was unequivocally good tonight. 13 Rebounds and the second leading rebounder on the team got 4. 8 assists to only 2 turnovers. Made a flurry of buckets in the clutch to give them a chance to take the game to OT.

The reason they lost is OKC as a whole didn't play good defense... on a back to back, away, with travel issues, after an emotionally charged win against the Celtics.

You can miss shots and still play well.

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

[DrModesty]

That was before the game ended, finished with that much, but look at his efficiency. Only 458, for someone who usually is in the high 50s for fg%.

You can have good stats and still play poorly.

But it wasn't that he was playing poorly. He was taking his normal shots, but early they just didn't drop. He was unequivocally good tonight. 13 Rebounds and the second leading rebounder on the team got 4. 8 assists to only 2 turnovers. Made a flurry of buckets in the clutch to give them a chance to take the game to OT.

The reason they lost is OKC as a whole didn't play good defense... on a back to back, away, with travel issues, after an emotionally charged win against the Celtics.

You can miss shots and still play well.

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

They literally had an open 3 to take it to overtime. But if you aren't capable of accepting a .458 FG% can be a part of a good game, I just don't think I can give your opinions much credence.

[AleksandarN]

But it wasn't that he was playing poorly. He was taking his normal shots, but early they just didn't drop. He was unequivocally good tonight. 13 Rebounds and the second leading rebounder on the team got 4. 8 assists to only 2 turnovers. Made a flurry of buckets in the clutch to give them a chance to take the game to OT.

The reason they lost is OKC as a whole didn't play good defense... on a back to back, away, with travel issues, after an emotionally charged win against the Celtics.

You can miss shots and still play well.

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

They literally had an open 3 to take it to overtime. But if you aren't capable of accepting a .458 FG% can be a part of a good game, I just don't think I can give your opinions much credence.

I bet he didn't even watch the game.

[LoneyROY]

That was before the game ended, finished with that much, but look at his efficiency. Only 458, for someone who usually is in the high 50s for fg%.

You can have good stats and still play poorly.

But it wasn't that he was playing poorly. He was taking his normal shots, but early they just didn't drop. He was unequivocally good tonight. 13 Rebounds and the second leading rebounder on the team got 4. 8 assists to only 2 turnovers. Made a flurry of buckets in the clutch to give them a chance to take the game to OT.

The reason they lost is OKC as a whole didn't play good defense... on a back to back, away, with travel issues, after an emotionally charged win against the Celtics.

You can miss shots and still play well.

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

[eyeatoma]

But it wasn't that he was playing poorly. He was taking his normal shots, but early they just didn't drop. He was unequivocally good tonight. 13 Rebounds and the second leading rebounder on the team got 4. 8 assists to only 2 turnovers. Made a flurry of buckets in the clutch to give them a chance to take the game to OT.

The reason they lost is OKC as a whole didn't play good defense... on a back to back, away, with travel issues, after an emotionally charged win against the Celtics.

You can miss shots and still play well.

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

Showing a gif of the ultimate chucker, who basically was only ever able to shoot about .450

Kobe was so overrated it's not funny.

[LoneyROY]

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

Showing a gif of the ultimate chucker, who basically was only ever able to shoot about .450

Kobe was so overrated it's not funny.

If you think it's impossible to have a good game while shooting 45.8 percent, you need to seriously re-evaluate your entire understanding of the game of basketball.

[dygaction]

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

Showing a gif of the ultimate chucker, who basically was only ever able to shoot about .450

Kobe was so overrated it's not funny.

Cannot believe this is from a fan of Embiid, a career .461% CENTER conference final virgin, laughing at a .458 game and a 5-times champion legend.

[SpreeS]

It’s possible that Shai will get MVP this year. Now he is strong case for 2nd place and Embiid has missed already 7 games to Shai one.

[eyeatoma]

Showing a gif of the ultimate chucker, who basically was only ever able to shoot about .450

Kobe was so overrated it's not funny.

If you think it's impossible to have a good game while shooting 45.8 percent, you need to seriously re-evaluate your entire understanding of the game of basketball.

I think in this case Shai was having a terrible game until the 4th quarter, so 45.8 could have been a lot worse, which is my point. As I said, it's largely an anomally for Shai. It's why he's an MVP candidate right now, because he's scoring so effeciently, and taking excellent shots.

It's also one of the reasons why Kobe only ever one 1 MVP (feel like it was more of a lifetime achievement award). He was given the license to shoot more than anyone not named Allen Iverson. A lot of that offense was bad offense too. He was never able to lead the Lakers to a chip until he get Pau (well the NBA gifted him Pau), and Bynum. What Kobe was, was an incredible shot maker, but he also had a lot of bad games, where he shot his team out of the game.

[losmi]

That was before the game ended, finished with that much, but look at his efficiency. Only 458, for someone who usually is in the high 50s for fg%.

You can have good stats and still play poorly.

But it wasn't that he was playing poorly. He was taking his normal shots, but early they just didn't drop. He was unequivocally good tonight. 13 Rebounds and the second leading rebounder on the team got 4. 8 assists to only 2 turnovers. Made a flurry of buckets in the clutch to give them a chance to take the game to OT.

The reason they lost is OKC as a whole didn't play good defense... on a back to back, away, with travel issues, after an emotionally charged win against the Celtics.

You can miss shots and still play well.

It's okay man, even amazing players have bad games, MVP candidates even.

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game. Those weren't really clutch shots, the game was out of hand at that point, and he tried to make a late run, too little too late. If he had a good game, he would have hit those shots earlier.

He'll be fine.

Interestingly, Embiid, in his fraudulent MVP season, had 13 games with a shooting below .458. So that's at least 13 bad games.

For comparison, Jokic only 3.

[The-Power]

SGA – Jokic – Embiid – Haliburton – Giannis

That would be my ballot thus far, in order.

[mcmurphy]

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game (unless isn't Embiid).

fix it.

25 of 53 playoff career games under 0.460

[eyeatoma]

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game (unless isn't Embiid).

fix it.

25 of 53 playoff career games under 0.460

Yup, and how many of those game under 460, where when he was injured, and had Ben Simmons/James Harden as his partner?

And don't literally put words into my mouth. I've always said defensively Embiid has been elite in the playoffs but offensively he takes a big step back...

Hmm I wonder why, what could he be having nearly every post season that slows him down?

[eyeatoma]

Showing a gif of the ultimate chucker, who basically was only ever able to shoot about .450

Kobe was so overrated it's not funny.

Cannot believe this is from a fan of Embiid, a career .461% CENTER conference final virgin, laughing at a .458 game and a 5-times champion legend.

He's busy committing robberies man...

[GrandTheftRondo]

Good lord surely it gets tiring post the same repetitive crap over and over again

[nikster]

You're never going to convince me that shooting .458 is a good game (unless isn't Embiid).

fix it.

25 of 53 playoff career games under 0.460

Yup, and how many of those game under 460, where when he was injured, and had Ben Simmons/James Harden as his partner?

And don't literally put words into my mouth. I've always said defensively Embiid has been elite in the playoffs but offensively he takes a big step back...

Hmm I wonder why, what could he be having nearly every post season that slows him down?

The excuses for Embiid are so funny lol

[eyeatoma]

fix it.

25 of 53 playoff career games under 0.460

Yup, and how many of those game under 460, where when he was injured, and had Ben Simmons/James Harden as his partner?

And don't literally put words into my mouth. I've always said defensively Embiid has been elite in the playoffs but offensively he takes a big step back...

Hmm I wonder why, what could he be having nearly every post season that slows him down?

The excuses for Embiid are so funny lol

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.