NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued)

[eyeatoma]

Good lord surely it gets tiring post the same repetitive crap over and over again

You could say the same thing about everyone else buddy.

[eyeatoma]

Good lord surely it gets tiring post the same repetitive crap over and over again

You could say the same thing about everyone else ...

[nikster]

Yup, and how many of those game under 460, where when he was injured, and had Ben Simmons/James Harden as his partner?

And don't literally put words into my mouth. I've always said defensively Embiid has been elite in the playoffs but offensively he takes a big step back...

Hmm I wonder why, what could he be having nearly every post season that slows him down?

The excuses for Embiid are so funny lol

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

[eyeatoma]

The excuses for Embiid are so funny lol

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

The excuses for Embiid are so funny lol

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

Yeah, you seem to conveniently forget how much Harden refused to shoot off the catch, and then come up small in game 6s and 7s year after year.

Please lol....

Harden is only a threat from deep when he wants to dribble the air out of the ball...

[CobraCommander]

Good lord surely it gets tiring post the same repetitive crap over and over again

This is the wrong thread for original thought

[AleksandarN]

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

Yeah, you seem to conveniently forget how much Harden refused to shoot off the catch, and then come up small in game 6s and 7s year after year.

Please lol....

Harden is only a threat from deep when he wants to dribble the air out of the ball...

Oh so it is his teammates fault he shot poorly? That’s so on brand for Embiiid I can’t lie. lol. Can you imagine if he had Campazzo, Rivers, Morris and Barton as your teammates against the world championship. I wonder what his shooting percentage would be in that series. Poor Embiid He NeEds MoRe HeLp.

[nikster]

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

Yeah, you seem to conveniently forget how much Harden refused to shoot off the catch, and then come up small in game 6s and 7s year after year.

Please lol....

Harden is only a threat from deep when he wants to dribble the air out of the ball...

Nah your right, its so hard to play beside an all star playmaker averaging 20/10 and led the league in assists. Its totally a valid excuse to bring up when discussing Embiids fg%. Also funny criticizing Harden for game 6/7 performances when defending Embiid

[Bum Adebayo]

Why are people talking about playoffs so much in an MVP discussion thread? it doesn't make sense at all.
Embiid is a totally different player in Regular Season than in Playoffs, people just need to learn to separate these two players.

[dygaction]

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

Yeah, you seem to conveniently forget how much Harden refused to shoot off the catch, and then come up small in game 6s and 7s year after year.

Please lol....

Harden is only a threat from deep when he wants to dribble the air out of the ball...

Oh so it is his teammates fault he shot poorly? That’s so on brand for Embiiid I can’t lie. lol. Can you imagine if he had Campazzo, Rivers, Morris and Barton as your teammates against the world championship. I wonder what his shooting percentage would be in that series. Poor Embiid He NeEds MoRe HeLp.

Are you kidding? There will be no series.

[Hussien Fatal]

If Embiid isn’t at the top of everybody’s list for MVP you are clearly just a hater. Embiid is by far playing the best currently no doubt about it. He’s averaging 35 12 and 6 on GREAT efficiency.

[LoneyROY]

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

I've never said anything different, it's always been the injuries.

Yeah and having a great playmaker like Harden who's a threat from deep made it so hard for embiid. Good thing you brought that up

Yeah, you seem to conveniently forget how much Harden refused to shoot off the catch, and then come up small in game 6s and 7s year after year.

Please lol....

Harden is only a threat from deep when he wants to dribble the air out of the ball...

Harden LITERALLY had a game-winner in the play-offs last year off a catch-and-shoot.

The braindead posts from this guy just never end.

[losmi]

Why are people talking about playoffs so much in an MVP discussion thread? it doesn't make sense at all.
Embiid is a totally different player in Regular Season than in Playoffs, people just need to learn to separate these two players.

Because this is the most valuable player award and the playoffs expose his real value. In regular seasons, he makes himself an easy schedule and takes too many possessions to pad his stats. On the surface, his contribution might look good, but when the playoffs come his teams haven't build chemistry and he turns into mediocrity, so no wonder they have never been able to beat even just an average playoff team.

[CobraCommander]

Why are people talking about playoffs so much in an MVP discussion thread? it doesn't make sense at all.
Embiid is a totally different player in Regular Season than in Playoffs, people just need to learn to separate these two players.

Because this is the most valuable player award and the playoffs expose his real value. In regular seasons, he makes himself an easy schedule and takes too many possessions to pad his stats. On the surface, his contribution might look good, but when the playoffs come his teams haven't build chemistry and he turns into mediocrity, so no wonder they have never been able to beat even just an average playoff team.

But it’s a regular season award… and it’s not an award based on past performance. It’s about this regular season exclusively. It’s also not “the best player” award.

When you look at it exclusively based on the criteria that we have - it’s Embiid- easy- but I can’t vote for him over Giannis or Jokic… it just seems disingenuous on my part.

If it’s Embiid or Luka or SGA I can compare their regular seasons because they haven’t won a ring… but it’s just hard for me to pick Embiid over guys that I just think are as good in the regular season- and are better when it comes to making winning plays or having winning games when it matters…

[losmi]

Why are people talking about playoffs so much in an MVP discussion thread? it doesn't make sense at all.
Embiid is a totally different player in Regular Season than in Playoffs, people just need to learn to separate these two players.

Because this is the most valuable player award and the playoffs expose his real value. In regular seasons, he makes himself an easy schedule and takes too many possessions to pad his stats. On the surface, his contribution might look good, but when the playoffs come his teams haven't build chemistry and he turns into mediocrity, so no wonder they have never been able to beat even just an average playoff team.

But it’s a regular season award… and it’s not an award based on past performance. It’s about this regular season exclusively. It’s also not “the best player” award.

When you look at it exclusively based on the criteria that we have - it’s Embiid- easy- but I can’t vote for him over Giannis or Jokic… it just seems disingenuous on my part.

If it’s Embiid or Luka or SGA I can compare their regular seasons because they haven’t won a ring… but it’s just hard for me to pick Embiid over guys that I just think are as good in the regular season- and are better when it comes to making winning plays or having winning games when it matters…

It is a regular season award, but the ultimate goal is to win the championship or at least give your team the best chance to be successful in the playoffs, and the regular season is just a part of the process. Past performances do matter, because they're the proof that his regular season playstyle isn't sustainable in the playoffs, and while it may bring a few extra wins in the regular season, it's ultimately useless and even damaging for his team's success in the playoffs.

[Bum Adebayo]

Because this is the most valuable player award and the playoffs expose his real value. In regular seasons, he makes himself an easy schedule and takes too many possessions to pad his stats. On the surface, his contribution might look good, but when the playoffs come his teams haven't build chemistry and he turns into mediocrity, so no wonder they have never been able to beat even just an average playoff team.

But it’s a regular season award… and it’s not an award based on past performance. It’s about this regular season exclusively. It’s also not “the best player” award.

When you look at it exclusively based on the criteria that we have - it’s Embiid- easy- but I can’t vote for him over Giannis or Jokic… it just seems disingenuous on my part.

If it’s Embiid or Luka or SGA I can compare their regular seasons because they haven’t won a ring… but it’s just hard for me to pick Embiid over guys that I just think are as good in the regular season- and are better when it comes to making winning plays or having winning games when it matters…

It is a regular season award, but the ultimate goal is to win the championship or at least give your team the best chance to be successful in the playoffs, and the regular season is just a part of the process. Past performances do matter, because they're the proof that his regular season playstyle isn't sustainable in the playoffs, and while it may bring a few extra wins in the regular season, it's ultimately useless and even damaging for his team's success in the playoffs.

But it has nothing to do with the MVP award, it's merely a RS award, complain about the award itself if you want, it should be a RS + Playoffs award, but currently it is not, so it's just a pointless discussion to argue about his playoffs failures in this thread IMO.

[dygaction]

But it’s a regular season award… and it’s not an award based on past performance. It’s about this regular season exclusively. It’s also not “the best player” award.

When you look at it exclusively based on the criteria that we have - it’s Embiid- easy- but I can’t vote for him over Giannis or Jokic… it just seems disingenuous on my part.

If it’s Embiid or Luka or SGA I can compare their regular seasons because they haven’t won a ring… but it’s just hard for me to pick Embiid over guys that I just think are as good in the regular season- and are better when it comes to making winning plays or having winning games when it matters…

It is a regular season award, but the ultimate goal is to win the championship or at least give your team the best chance to be successful in the playoffs, and the regular season is just a part of the process. Past performances do matter, because they're the proof that his regular season playstyle isn't sustainable in the playoffs, and while it may bring a few extra wins in the regular season, it's ultimately useless and even damaging for his team's success in the playoffs.

But it has nothing to do with the MVP award, it's merely a RS award, complain about the award itself if you want, it should be a RS + Playoffs award, but currently it is not, so it's just a pointless discussion to argue about his playoffs failures in this thread IMO.

Every MVP candidates have been evaluated using the same standard. Embiid is the only MVP in NBA history to never make it past the second round of the playoffs, not even to mention b2b MVPs.

[eyeatoma]

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Lmfao turns out Jokic and Giannis "duck" more than Embiid...

Guess people will need to make up another excuse now.

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[dygaction]

Showing a gif of the ultimate chucker, who basically was only ever able to shoot about .450

Kobe was so overrated it's not funny.

Cannot believe this is from a fan of Embiid, a career .461% CENTER conference final virgin, laughing at a .458 game and a 5-times champion legend.

He's busy committing robberies man...

The reason of getting injured all the time as always in evading?

[eyeatoma]

Cannot believe this is from a fan of Embiid, a career .461% CENTER conference final virgin, laughing at a .458 game and a 5-times champion legend.

He's busy committing robberies man...

The reason of getting injured all the time as always in evading?

? So you are saying he's purposefully getting injured?

Ummm...

[dygaction]

He's busy committing robberies man...

The reason of getting injured all the time as always in evading?

? So you are saying he's purposefully getting injured?

Ummm...

? So you are saying he's purposefully committing robberies man?
Ummm...