Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 2.0

[IceColdCubano]

Realistic targets at the 1 who would fit and be an PG upgrade: Sexton and Rozier. I don’t think we need a traditional 1, but we need someone who can space the floor and get us a bucket when needed.

Other option is Caruso, who would be a nice fit defensively in our backcourt and has some moxie to his game. Not an elite shooter or shot creator though, which limits his usefulness to us somewhat. He may be a little redundant with JRich, albeit he’s a better/smarter player.

If Jovic can continue to develop, going into next year he could potentially be our de facto 1, alongside JJJ, Bam and Herro as on ball threats. We’re already getting Niko to bring the ball up and set us up at times.

That will be the day I know Spo has lost his damn mind....watching Jovic step on the court as the defacto PG.....

[AirP.]

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Would Lowry for McDermott and Graham be of any interest? Could have a chance to offload about 5-6 million in this deal with the inclusion of Dru Smith. Bring aboard the younger Graham and have money to go out and sign a veteran backup. McDermott could log in minutes at the 4 spot and is a friend of Jimmy's.

Just a reminder, Miami is in the tax this year even though some treat the 2nd apron as the actual tax line which it's not, it's just a new set of circumstances for being in the tax. 172 million will probably the tax line next year and being in the tax next year starts the repeater tax. Lowry's WHOLE expiring contract is just a way to make it somewhat manageable next year although it is still will be a little rough.

For next year Butler, Bam, Herro and Robinson are 132 million, leaving 40 million under the tax for the other 10 players to get to the 14-player minimum.

Jaquez and Jovic are 6 million next year, now Miami is at 138 million leaving 34 million for the other 8 players.

Love will be 4 million and Bryant almost 3 putting the payrol at 145 leaving 27 million for the other 6 players.

Martin, Richardson, Highsmith and Robinson all able to walk in FA.

So, this leaves Miami with... 27 million for 6 players. If you move Lowry for ANY salary past his year, just subtract that from the 27 million but you only have to add another 5 players for the 14 man minimum.

So starting to shape the roster next year with only 27 million for the rest of the roster...
PG - ?
SG - Herro, Robinson
SF - Butler, Jaquez Jr(depending on where they want him)
PF - Jovic, Love
C - Bam, Bryant

Let's add Cain in at around 2 million per for 1-3 years (his 2 way years counts for bird years), now you have 24 million for 5 players, do you want to retain any of your free agents?

With how it's shaping up it seems like very little movement for Miami unless they're moving Martin and/or Bryant for a player they could use this or next year but who knows, if an aging but proven star becomes available because their team doesn't look good enough this year or in the future Herro could be moved but I doubt that happens.

Just expect something small but possibly useful, someone probably expiring or at a very good value past this season which would cost an asset.

You're forgetting our first round draft pick next year which equates to another cheap, cost controlled player.

So going back to 27 million for 6 players, you can add another $3 million for our first round pick, bringing us to $24 million for 5 players. Adding in Cain for another $2 million leaves us with $22 million for 4 players. I would suspect we'd attempt to keep Richardson, Highsmith, and Martin but who knows what they'll want or if they'll be worth it to us? I think we'll end up losing Martin and retaining Richardson and Highsmith at reasonable prices. I'm guessing $11 million for the pair, leaving us $11 million for two new players. And knowing us, we may give one player $11 million and going with 14 players on the roster.

I didn't forget the 1st but even though it's a cheaper player, it's still more expensive than a league minimum guy. Unless this team wins the championship there's a 99.999999% chance this team will not be in the tax at the beginning of the year next season.

I guess I should have pushed the point a little more about Miami not having the money to pay for a real starting PG next year, basically outside of a trade, Miami will just have the MLE to get that player which would mean losing Martin, Richardson and possibly Highsmith for nothing. So, this roster may look like a lesser version of the current one next year with a different starting PG but no Lowry, Martin, Richardson and Highsmith. I'm not really sure how Miami is suppose to deal with the quicker PGs in the NBA if they lose Martin, Richardson and Highsmith.... maybe RJ Hampton will be ready?

[AirP.]

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Two in a row!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sexton as a starter: 22-3-5 on 49/37/90 shooting splits 5 3PA a game.

Rozier without Lamelo: 25-4-8 on 46/39/89 shooting splits 8 3PA a game.

Get me Rozier/PJW or Sexton/KO, I prefer the hornets package because I believe Rozier is the best player and has the highest ceiling in the playoffs but I’d be happy with either. Sexton has the mentality we like and KO coming back would be seamless

[BBallFreak]

Sexton as a starter: 22-3-5 on 49/37/90 shooting splits 5 3PA a game.

Rozier without Lamelo: 25-4-8 on 46/39/89 shooting splits 8 3PA a game.

Get me Rozier/PJW or Sexton/KO, I prefer the hornets package because I believe Rozier is the best player and has the highest ceiling in the playoffs but I’d be happy with either. Sexton has the mentality we like and KO coming back would be seamless

I would be thrilled with either package, but cost is my concern, both now with the trade package, and momentarily with the second apron looming. AirP. laid out the concerns, perfectly. We cannot afford to mess this up.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Forgot about Dejounte Murray too, he’d be nice.

Get in those pockets Micky, we’ve been shedding assets to save you money for years!!!

[Wiltside]

Realistic targets at the 1 who would fit and be an PG upgrade: Sexton and Rozier. I don’t think we need a traditional 1, but we need someone who can space the floor and get us a bucket when needed.

Other option is Caruso, who would be a nice fit defensively in our backcourt and has some moxie to his game. Not an elite shooter or shot creator though, which limits his usefulness to us somewhat. He may be a little redundant with JRich, albeit he’s a better/smarter player.

If Jovic can continue to develop, going into next year he could potentially be our de facto 1, alongside JJJ, Bam and Herro as on ball threats. We’re already getting Niko to bring the ball up and set us up at times.

That will be the day I know Spo has lost his damn mind....watching Jovic step on the court as the defacto PG.....

He’s already bringing the ball up on occasion and initiating. Not tons of reps yet, but he’s developing.

[marson]

Problem with Sexton is he okay being the 4th/5th option? There were rumbling years ago that he wants more shots.

Can't see Jimmy Butler letting Kyle get traded tbh especially now he is playing well in his role.

[dshearn]

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I remember A young Herro doing 16ish ppg and how forced that felt at times

Kinda polar opposite for JJJ


Once you factor in the missed layups by jjj later in games...it really makes me wonder what his path is to 20ppg

I think the dudes biggest hurdle right now is stamina....dude might be lights out with an offseason of solid work.

[DayofMourning]

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[eddieheatfan]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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Multiple first? I thought it was one little second round pick lol

[MettaWorldPanda]

For the record i’m completely down with trading Lowry for Rozier. We add a super explosive scorer to the lineup and his contract in today’s NBA for his production ain’t that bad. Hoping we only have have to give up one pick and they’ll settle for reuniting the brothers Martin again.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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That’s a troll account unfortunately

[Beenie]

[MettaWorldPanda]

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That’s a troll account unfortunately

That sucks

[MettaWorldPanda]

Troll account or not it’s a solid guess that we would be interested in Rozier and that the Hornets would be wanting the premium of 2 picks for him considering his good contract and production. Adding his explosive scoring to our lineup would really ignite this offense. Rozier has roasted us plenty so we know what he’s capable of. A simple swap of Lowry and picks for Rozier would also save us 6 million off this year’s cap but it essentially saves Micky like 15 million off the tax bill. I know people hate to hear about Micky saving money but the concept here is acting like his real gm lol. This is exactly a trade we could be looking at. I know some peoples heads will explode about the draft compensation but the price to make trades has skyrocketed since free agency has become somewhat irrelevant.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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That’s a troll account unfortunately

That sucks

I really hope we start those discussions at some point though, he’d be a huge boost

[MettaWorldPanda]

That’s a troll account unfortunately

That sucks

I really hope we start those discussions at some point though, he’d be a huge boost

24.1 3.8 7.1 good lord he’s putting up allstar numbers this year. We damn sure better start discussions soon. He’s a prime target for us.