Wembanyama. I'm concerned

[lebootz21]

No hate, just love.

But this is a reactionary thread. All players have cold streaks during the season, rookies tend to have more. He'll be fine.

This is not a reactionary thread. Shooting is one of the hardest things to improve. It took Jason Kidd his entire career to learn this craft: He only became a good shooter under the legendary Mavs shooting coach.

Wembanyama needs to be more like Hakeem and less like Pozingis.

? Porzingis is leading the league in all post-up stats

On the Celtics when he's pretty much the 5th option.

His style of play has always been mid-range to 3 point line.

[Yoshun]

No hate, just love.

But this is a reactionary thread. All players have cold streaks during the season, rookies tend to have more. He'll be fine.

This is not a reactionary thread. Shooting is one of the hardest things to improve. It took Jason Kidd his entire career to learn this craft: He only became a good shooter under the legendary Mavs shooting coach.

Wembanyama needs to be more like Hakeem and less like Pozingis.

This thread was made based on a 6 game sample size of his first 11 career games and it's not just about his shooting.

In this thread, I also posted the numbers of LeBron and Durant in their rookie seasons. Their shooting percentages and TS were worse than Wemby's. He can improve and already has since the thread was made.

[SNPA]

There are concerns.



Lol.


Might be the biggest thread title self-own ever.

[zimpy27]

This thread was created after 11 games..

Wemby was 18.6ppg @52% TS, 9.3rpg, 2.5apg, 2.4bpg, 3.9topg

It's been 19 games since this OP.

Wemby has since gone 19.5ppg @ 54.7% TS, 10.6rpg, 3.1apg, 3.7bpg, 2.8topg


So he's improved in all categories, due largely to him going to the C spot.

Last 10 games at the C spot Wemby has gone 19.5ppg @ 58.1% TS, 10rpg, 3.4apg, 4.2bpg, 3.1topg

[zimpy27]

Wemby at the C spot is already a 21-11-4-4 guy at 30mpg

He will be all-star and all-NBA next season if healthy

[Ursusamericanus]

Wemby at the C spot is already a 21-11-4-4 guy at 30mpg

He will be all-star and all-NBA next season if healthy

Going to be curious to see how many blocks per game he's getting in a few years. Might hit peak Hakeem or Dikembe levels, like 4-4.5 per game with enough minutes. That's particularly incredible for the modern era. We haven't seen shot-blocking like that in a long time.

[zimpy27]

Wemby at the C spot is already a 21-11-4-4 guy at 30mpg

He will be all-star and all-NBA next season if healthy

Going to be curious to see how many blocks per game he's getting in a few years. Might hit peak Hakeem or Dikembe levels, like 4-4.5 per game with enough minutes. That's particularly incredible for the modern era. We haven't seen shot-blocking like that in a long time.

He's already at 5 per 100, Hakeem peaked at 5.8 per 100. Robinson peaked at 5.9 per 100.


The guys of comparable height guys are Manute Bol (9.2 per 100) and Mark Eaton (8.1 per 100).
Don't think he gets close to that.

[Ursusamericanus]

Wemby at the C spot is already a 21-11-4-4 guy at 30mpg

He will be all-star and all-NBA next season if healthy

Going to be curious to see how many blocks per game he's getting in a few years. Might hit peak Hakeem or Dikembe levels, like 4-4.5 per game with enough minutes. That's particularly incredible for the modern era. We haven't seen shot-blocking like that in a long time.

He's already at 5 per 100, Hakeem peaked at 5.8 per 100. Robinson peaked at 5.9 per 100.

5 per 100 is already peak Ewing (89-90) level. Madness... Dikembe hit 6.4 per 100 in 95-96.

[Lalouie]

he's 7'5. he'll get his numbers

he's not turning the spurs around any time soon though

[KillMonger]

he's 7'5. he'll get his numbers

he's not turning the spurs around any time soon though

roster construction is important man.....i guess i was kind of naive to think he would make a massive impact on the team, in a certain way you can say he has....however as a team i think they're just as bad as they've been pre-wemby

[Lalouie]

he's 7'5. he'll get his numbers

he's not turning the spurs around any time soon though

roster construction is important man.....i guess i was kind of naive to think he would make a massive impact on the team, in a certain way you can say he has....however as a team i think they're just as bad as they've been pre-wemby

in a different era his height would mean something and he wouldn't develop chucking 3s, and he'd be a force as a rookie. but it's a new era and they all grow up practicing 3s. he one of the worst on his team in 3% but he's #3 in attempts. there's NO rationale for it

[The-Power]

Going to be curious to see how many blocks per game he's getting in a few years.

I wouldn't expect big jumps. Block numbers often don't really increase as deterrence effects come more into play and the shot blocker becomes more selective in trying to block shots (young players are often a bit too eager to block shots at the expense of other parts of defense).

Victor is a bit different in that fouling has not been a major concern for him unlike most Rookies and he's not overly eager to block everything in his vicinity. He also gets a lot of blocks without jumping which should help sustain his numbers. But a major increase? I doubt it. It's also not really useful to compare Victor's numbers to Hakeem's, Robinson's, Dikembe's etc. because there are simply fewer shot blocking opportunities for Centers these days.

[lebootz21]

No hate, just love.

But this is a reactionary thread. All players have cold streaks during the season, rookies tend to have more. He'll be fine.

This is not a reactionary thread. Shooting is one of the hardest things to improve. It took Jason Kidd his entire career to learn this craft: He only became a good shooter under the legendary Mavs shooting coach.

Wembanyama needs to be more like Hakeem and less like Pozingis.

This thread was made based on a 6 game sample size of his first 11 career games and it's not just about his shooting.

In this thread, I also posted the numbers of LeBron and Durant in their rookie seasons. Their shooting percentages and TS were worse than Wemby's. He can improve and already has since the thread was made.

Maybe it's just me but wouldnt it be better if a 7'4" play to his strength closer to the rim and not chuck up 3s especially if hes only hitting 26% of them?

It's just odd to me a big is shooting 43%. Even a bad offensive center like Mutumbo is still above 50%. I think it's fair to question his shot selections due to these anomalies.

If he's close to the rim, can't he just shoot over anybody? Why not use that to his advantage instead of chucking up shots at the perimeter? I admit I don't know the inner details of Pop's gameplan, but that just seems obvious to me.

He's out there trying to be Nowitski but he shoots like Smush Parker.

[DwayneSchintzus]

In this thread- people that watch games vs people that read stats

[Godymas]

no longer any concern what so ever

even from day 1 he was obviously at some point going to be good, so to make a concerned thread before half a season is just

he's going to be the blocks leader as a rookie. ever since blocks were tracked the only player to do this was Manute Bol (5 bpg in 26 mpg is still INSANE btw)

the offense is growing, it probably will start to really shine next year, but the defense is already there and it's DISGUSTING, that block on Giannis, once again a few years ago Giannis looked UNSTOPPABLE doing that kind of move, no one had an answer for it and Wemby just stuffed him like Giannis was a guard trying to finish at the rim.

[_NoMas]

I’m concerned too.

Concerned that he could legitimately become the greatest defensive player of all time, and even as a rookie, I don’t think that projection is hyperbole

[_jin]

This is not a reactionary thread. Shooting is one of the hardest things to improve. It took Jason Kidd his entire career to learn this craft: He only became a good shooter under the legendary Mavs shooting coach.

Wembanyama needs to be more like Hakeem and less like Pozingis.

? Porzingis is leading the league in all post-up stats

On the Celtics when he's pretty much the 5th option.

His style of play has always been mid-range to 3 point line.

Watch some games instead of boxscores. He's not KP from the Knicks anymore, hasnt been in years.

[lebootz21]

? Porzingis is leading the league in all post-up stats

On the Celtics when he's pretty much the 5th option.

His style of play has always been mid-range to 3 point line.

Watch some games instead of boxscores. He's not KP from the Knicks anymore, hasnt been in years.

Thanks for the suggestion. I admit I'm not fully educated on KP.

[lebootz21]

My main point is imagine if Wemby is more like Hakeem: He is more versatile and taller, so his game can benefit greatly if he did what Hakeem did. Right off the bat his FG% and offensive rebounds will drastically improve since he's scoring closer to the rim.

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

P.S. It doesn't matter if he had a great game against the Bucks. His overall statistics is the only thing that matters.

[_jin]

On the Celtics when he's pretty much the 5th option.

His style of play has always been mid-range to 3 point line.

Watch some games instead of boxscores. He's not KP from the Knicks anymore, hasnt been in years.

Thanks for the suggestion. I admit I'm not fully educated on KP.

KP's body has changed a lot, he got stronger and his play has evolved accordingly. Things really switched for him when he got on the Wizards. He just scored 30+pts in 2 of his last few games and only made a couple 3's in each of those, most of his points come in the paint where his touch allow him to be the most efficient in the league in that category. Celts went from one of last teams in points in the paint last season to middle of the pack just by adding KP.

If anything, current KP is a player Wemby should try to emulate on offense.