El Turco wrote:wembambamya wrote:El Turco wrote:Pretty much what I was saying but you were more succinct
What is your go-to stat for quarterbacks? I wish espn opened up QBR so we know what they are analyzing lol
Usually I like to take few stats into my evaluation separately instead of combining them but, among the commonly used ones my favorite is probably Adjusted Net Yards per Pass attempt, I feel like the weights it puts on TDs and Int little bit more fair and doesnt have some of the redundancies some of the more traditional stats like QB rating has.
If we want to go little bit more complex EPA per dropback is good. Interesting enough Lamar had the best EPA/DB game of the season against the Dolphins. That why I am less bummed about Lamar winning it, even though his overall profile doesnt come close to Purdy, he really turned it on when it matters most and that counts for something, he has had the second best EPA/DB last three weeks only trailing ya boy Baker
Basic EPA is part of ESPN total QBR too but they use their own game winning percentages which gives odd results frequently. I think it is not too difficult to find out how they calculate total QBR, it is just I dont really trust the data they produce to calculate. It is espn, how much can you expect.
Yeah I was looking at some of them, couple of the authors I like also uses ANY/A
1. Purdy 9.01
2. Tua 7.65
3. Lamar 7.34
4. Stroud 7.32
5. Dak 7.19
Outside of Tua, this is not too far from how I would rank them from eye test for this season.
In comparison this is the QB Rating
1. Purdy 113
2. Dak 104
3. Cousins 104
4. Tua 103
5. Lamar 103
ESPN's QBR
1. Purdy 73
2. Dak 71
3. Allen 68
4. Lamar 65
5. Herbert 64
Interesting enough espn's qbr seems to be the only one that has Josh Allen high, obviously he is not a MVP candidate but top 5 is more accurate for him as opposed to 10th or 15th.
It is already posted but just as a comparison EPA/DB (ignoring Mason Randolph)
1. Purdy 0.33
2. Dak 0.23
3. Tua 0.19
4. Allen 0.19
5. Love 0.15
This one is litte bit more suspect with Jordan Love in there lol and I am guessing rushing is not included considering how far behind Lamar is.
Only one where Purdy is not the top or near the top is ELO 538 ranking that was in that EPA dropback site, but in that Dak is also relatively bad
1. Josh Allen
2. Lamar
3. Cousins
4 . Hurts
5. Dak
6. Purdy
I also checked how much offensive points scored per game just to see the silliness lol
1. San Francisco 28.9
2. Baltimore 28.6
2. Miami 28.6
4. Detroit 26.6
5. Dallas 26.3
Obviously Dallas has gotten lot of help in scoring department from their defense, but also I didnt think Baltimore would be this high.
Also wanted to see the play calling near the goalline, Shanahan doing Purdy disservice lol. Purdy has 25 attempts inside 10 yards while Dak for example almost has double with 47. It is crazy that they have almost same touchdown numbers. Mahomes leads this with 50 attempts inside 10 yards. Josh Allen also only has 26 attempts but he also gets 45 percent of Bills' carries inside the 5 yards, only him and Hurts are that high as a quarterback. And one thing I couldnt figure out is who gets the credit for field goals if total touchdowns are the only thing matters lol
Anyway, MVP or not Purdy obviously had the best year statistically which is remarkable for a 7th round sophmore, maybe if he was drafted 1st overall he would have won the MVP, dunno. He seems to be something between Kurt Warner and Tom Brady where it will take some time until people are convinced that he is for real.
Not MVP type of year but we have to admit Dak also had a very good year, we'll see how he handles the playoffs but he showed that Dallas can win with at least at home. They also have really solid defense and a kicker so they'll be favorites to go to NFC championship and they will likely be underdogs against Niners there but in one game situations you never know, Purdy might have another off night and Dallas might roll who knows.
Lamar's numbers look better than I thought, looks like he went on a tear last couple weeks, so he might be behind statistically but he is certainly a worthy MVP, did his best against the best teams. Also I agree with that other dude that Josh Allen has played much better than some of his raw stats indicate, his team took a step back and he is not a MVP candidate but I'd watch out for him in playoffs.
Lastly, I looked my guy Baker's stats, he is mostly in 8-12 range which is muuuch better than I expected before the season, I still favor drafting a young quarterback but at the spot we are drafting we wont be able to probably so I dont mind rolling with him another year.