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Post#1541 » by zaz102 » Fri Jan 5, 2024 12:30 am

Any interest in Kuzma? I know first reaction is hell no, but IMO, has enough tools on offense to be a third or fourth banana.

I think has the tools to play D. Maybe he could be one of those guys that can learn to play better D under Nurse.

Good contract in my opinion (contract decreases annualy to $19M in '26/'27). Could give you flexibility to make some other big moves and might be a buy low candidate if Washington is looking elsewhere.
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Post#1542 » by Ben » Fri Jan 5, 2024 1:09 am

zaz102 wrote:Any interest in Kuzma? I know first reaction is hell no, but IMO, has enough tools on offense to be a third or fourth banana.

I think has the tools to play D. Maybe he could be one of those guys that can learn to play better D under Nurse.

Good contract in my opinion (contract decreases annualy to $19M in '26/'27). Could give you flexibility to make some other big moves and might be a buy low candidate if Washington is looking elsewhere.


Let's not forget that all-important first reaction. :P

There's a reason for it. Kuzma is just SUCH empty stats, empty calories. It's rare to see someone with his kind of raw averages who also fares so badly by advanced stats. And yet b/c of his stats he might actually cost something to acquire. My 2 cents.
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Post#1543 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jan 5, 2024 1:32 am

Kuzma can't really shoot well or defend well. As an aside, Tatum averages 25 ppg on 52.4% shooting in 12 career games against Kuzma. I just don't see him helping us.

Then again, on paper, I didn't see Kelly Oubre helping us and he's shooting well and defending well for us so far. So who knows.
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Post#1544 » by Ben » Fri Jan 5, 2024 1:54 am

Kobblehead wrote:Kuzma can't really shoot well or defend well. As an aside, Tatum averages 25 ppg on 52.4% shooting in 12 career games against Kuzma. I just don't see him helping us.

Then again, on paper, I didn't see Kelly Oubre helping us and he's shooting well and defending well for us so far. So who knows.


Yeah, Oubre has played well, but (a) he's playing for a contract, and (b) in his past two years with Charlotte he didn't have anywhere near as bad advanced stats as Kuzma has shown for a long time.

I'd be all for giving someone else a try who seems like no-defense to us but who Nurse believes can do the job, But it seems like we should be looking for guys who, like Oubre, who can be tried cheaply. Kuzma's a multi-year commitment and would probably cost assets to acquire.

I'm really scratching my head over PF prospects who'd improve on Tobi, though.
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Post#1545 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Fri Jan 5, 2024 4:54 am

Oubre is a major pick up for us and huge park of our success so far. Definitely a wing worth keeping and is definitely our 4th best player.
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Post#1546 » by Wilfried » Fri Jan 5, 2024 8:11 am

Ben wrote:
I'm really scratching my head over PF prospects who'd improve on Tobi, though.


Markannen. But he will cost a lot
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Post#1547 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 5, 2024 1:24 pm

mksp wrote:Why has OKC seemingly run such a better "Process" than Philly?

Ownership meddling I guess? Wasn't a real Process the minute Sam got fired really, was all downhill from there.

Started with some higher value assets as well I suppose.

Have drafted better in the aggregate by a good margin.

Crazy how well set up that team is.


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Post#1548 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 5, 2024 1:27 pm

Phila Tough wrote:Would Rubio have been bigger if he came in the league today? He's been as good as advertised, just started his career on some crap teams. I wonder how he would have looked on a more competent organization and with this fast pace of the modern NBA


No. He can’t score or shoot.

As long as you can score or shoot, you have value in the league. Look at quickley
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Post#1549 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 5, 2024 1:38 pm

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Post#1550 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jan 5, 2024 1:57 pm

Ben wrote:I'm really scratching my head over PF prospects who'd improve on Tobi, though.


I like P.J. Washington a lot.

He's on an awesome deal for the next two years making on average just $14.85m per year.

He can move the ball well enough and he can block shots. He's having a down shooting year, but he's a good shooter for his career. I trust that trait can come back (especially under Nurse).
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Post#1551 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Jan 5, 2024 2:11 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Oubre is a major pick up for us and huge park of our success so far. Definitely a wing worth keeping and is definitely our 4th best player.


He is definitely better than Harris.
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Post#1554 » by davesilver » Fri Jan 5, 2024 3:22 pm

Hopefully the Lakers realize their best option is to maximize the value they could get for Lebron at this point.

3 1sts, 2 2nds, Harris, springer, furk should blow other deals away. Plenty of draft capital to rebuild plus a massive expiring in Harris. Not to mention the hilarity of the Lakers owning the Clippers draft.


Maxey - Melton - Lebron - Batum - Embiid
Beverley - Oubre - Morris - Cov - Reed


No better player for dismantling Boston than Bron. Would bring us to top 1/2 in both ortg and drtg likely.
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Post#1555 » by zaz102 » Fri Jan 5, 2024 3:29 pm

davesilver wrote:Hopefully the Lakers realize their best option is to maximize the value they could get for Lebron at this point.

3 1sts, 2 2nds, Harris, springer, furk should blow other deals away. Plenty of draft capital to rebuild plus a massive expiring in Harris. Not to mention the hilarity of the Lakers owning the Clippers draft.


Maxey - Melton - Lebron - Batum - Embiid
Beverley - Oubre - Morris - Cov - Reed


No better player for dismantling Boston than Bron. Would bring us to top 1/2 in both ortg and drtg likely.
Maximizing LeBron's value is keeping him on the team to rake in that money, not really how many championships the Lakers win which they probably wouldn't be happening anyway.
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Post#1556 » by the_process » Fri Jan 5, 2024 3:30 pm

davesilver wrote:Hopefully the Lakers realize their best option is to maximize the value they could get for Lebron at this point.

3 1sts, 2 2nds, Harris, springer, furk should blow other deals away. Plenty of draft capital to rebuild plus a massive expiring in Harris. Not to mention the hilarity of the Lakers owning the Clippers draft.

Maxey - Melton - Lebron - Batum - Embiid
Beverley - Oubre - Morris - Cov - Reed

No better player for dismantling Boston than Bron. Would bring us to top 1/2 in both ortg and drtg likely.


LeBron isn't approving a trade.
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Post#1557 » by Ben » Fri Jan 5, 2024 4:53 pm

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Ben wrote:I'm really scratching my head over PF prospects who'd improve on Tobi, though.


I like P.J. Washington a lot.

He's on an awesome deal for the next two years making on average just $14.85m per year.

He can move the ball well enough and he can block shots. He's having a down shooting year, but he's a good shooter for his career. I trust that trait can come back (especially under Nurse).


Boy, I don't know about PJ. I've always thought him undersized and not a very good defender or very good rebounder. His advanced stats are pretty darned mediocre, if one cares about that. Below-average TS% for a PF even before this year. But it's not like I've watched him a lot, so if you've monitored him and think he's about to come into his own, that would be different. Based on past performance, though, I don't see how he would get the team to the next level.
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Post#1558 » by the_process » Fri Jan 5, 2024 5:05 pm

Ben wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
Ben wrote:I'm really scratching my head over PF prospects who'd improve on Tobi, though.


I like P.J. Washington a lot.

He's on an awesome deal for the next two years making on average just $14.85m per year.

He can move the ball well enough and he can block shots. He's having a down shooting year, but he's a good shooter for his career. I trust that trait can come back (especially under Nurse).


Boy, I don't know about PJ. I've always thought him undersized and not a very good defender or very good rebounder. His advanced stats are pretty darned mediocre, if one cares about that. Below-average TS% for a PF even before this year. But it's not like I've watched him a lot, so if you've monitored him and think he's about to come into his own, that would be different. Based on past performance, though, I don't see how he would get the team to the next level.


You're right about the undersized and mediocre rebounder, but the Sixers have had Tobias forever so we should be used to that. PJ actually is a decent defender, more so in help than on man, and his career shooting numbers are far better than they are this year.
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Post#1559 » by Ben » Fri Jan 5, 2024 5:07 pm

the_process wrote:
Ben wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
I like P.J. Washington a lot.

He's on an awesome deal for the next two years making on average just $14.85m per year.

He can move the ball well enough and he can block shots. He's having a down shooting year, but he's a good shooter for his career. I trust that trait can come back (especially under Nurse).


Boy, I don't know about PJ. I've always thought him undersized and not a very good defender or very good rebounder. His advanced stats are pretty darned mediocre, if one cares about that. Below-average TS% for a PF even before this year. But it's not like I've watched him a lot, so if you've monitored him and think he's about to come into his own, that would be different. Based on past performance, though, I don't see how he would get the team to the next level.


You're right about the undersized and mediocre rebounder, but the Sixers have had Tobias forever so we should be used to that. PJ actually is a decent defender, more so in help than on man, and his career shooting numbers are far better than they are this year.


I guess my question then is, is he better than Tobi? A step forward rather than backward, or sideways?
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Post#1560 » by the_process » Fri Jan 5, 2024 5:16 pm

Ben wrote:
the_process wrote:
Ben wrote:
Boy, I don't know about PJ. I've always thought him undersized and not a very good defender or very good rebounder. His advanced stats are pretty darned mediocre, if one cares about that. Below-average TS% for a PF even before this year. But it's not like I've watched him a lot, so if you've monitored him and think he's about to come into his own, that would be different. Based on past performance, though, I don't see how he would get the team to the next level.


You're right about the undersized and mediocre rebounder, but the Sixers have had Tobias forever so we should be used to that. PJ actually is a decent defender, more so in help than on man, and his career shooting numbers are far better than they are this year.


I guess my question then is, is he better than Tobi? A step forward rather than backward, or sideways?


I would consider him better, because he's more useful on a team with Joel both offensively and defensively.

I have a hard time understanding why everybody does not see that Tobias Harris was born to be a tank commander. People roast Brad Beal for this all the time. Tobias is much, much worse, and he skates. Is even held up as "productive". Mind boggling.

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