Jayson Tatum Thread – (All-NBA Team, 2024)

[KillahGhostface]

SGA cut his three point attemps down and still creates six assists per game despite playing alongside a traditional pg and a great passing big man. I don’t think we’ll ever see JT cut down to three attempts a game but he should be able to clean up his game a bit and get the assist numbers up.

Shai has a higher Usage so that should probably translate higher. He's a G while Tatum is an F. Not really that hard to figure out. As previously stated. If Tatum replaces a couple of those pullup 3's with postups or drives we're golden. We know that shot isn't coming out of his repertoire so maybe just a couple less. Otherwise, defense is great. Passing is great. Scoring is great. Nothing else to complain about.

SGA actually embraces the mid range game unlike Tatum who has had it almost completely coached out of him.

I’m fine with Tatum attempting more 3s than he did at the start of the career but completely avoiding the mid range leads to some ugly shooting nights for him and makes him easier to defend.

There’s still value in your superstar being able to work in the mid range area. KD does it, SGA does it, Kawhi does it.

This is from December, but the numbers are still really good.

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[GrandTheftRondo]

Shai has a higher Usage so that should probably translate higher. He's a G while Tatum is an F. Not really that hard to figure out. As previously stated. If Tatum replaces a couple of those pullup 3's with postups or drives we're golden. We know that shot isn't coming out of his repertoire so maybe just a couple less. Otherwise, defense is great. Passing is great. Scoring is great. Nothing else to complain about.

SGA actually embraces the mid range game unlike Tatum who has had it almost completely coached out of him.

I’m fine with Tatum attempting more 3s than he did at the start of the career but completely avoiding the mid range leads to some ugly shooting nights for him and makes him easier to defend.

There’s still value in your superstar being able to work in the mid range area. KD does it, SGA does it, Kawhi does it.

This is from December, but the numbers are still really good.

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I would like to see that number increased and at least 3/4 of his awful pull up threes taken from his game.

It would honestly free him up more offensively I believe and get him more actual good looks from 3.

[shackles10]

I wonder how many of his post-ups are considered mid-range since he's often posting up from just inside the 3pt line. Efficiency wise it doesn't matter as he's been great at post-ups in general no matter where on the court he's finishing those post ups, I just wonder if there's a bit of double dipping of things counting as post ups and mid-range.

[fallguy]

Clearing out the side and putting Tatum in the post remains one of our best sets.

[KillahGhostface]

SGA actually embraces the mid range game unlike Tatum who has had it almost completely coached out of him.

I’m fine with Tatum attempting more 3s than he did at the start of the career but completely avoiding the mid range leads to some ugly shooting nights for him and makes him easier to defend.

There’s still value in your superstar being able to work in the mid range area. KD does it, SGA does it, Kawhi does it.

This is from December, but the numbers are still really good.

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I would like to see that number increased and at least 3/4 of his awful pull up threes taken from his game.

It would honestly free him up more offensively I believe and get him more actual good looks from 3.

Cutting out 3/4th of his pull-ups would absolutely hurt his overall game. It’s just about picking his spots, and cutting the isolation pull-ups down a bit. If he starts turning down clean pull-up threes against the drop, we aren’t winning anything in the playoffs. Hitting threes is the best way to beat the drop.

He doesn’t need to take more mid rangers, it’s just about having that in his bag. The more weapons he has, the less susceptible he is to shot variance. Just needs to keep mixing it up, as it makes him more unpredictable. He’s been really good in the mid range, and has been excellent in isolation, and posting up. I’m less worried about the pull-ups during the regular season, because it’s well established he drives a lot more in the playoffs.

[bigboi]

SGA cut his three point attemps down and still creates six assists per game despite playing alongside a traditional pg and a great passing big man. I don’t think we’ll ever see JT cut down to three attempts a game but he should be able to clean up his game a bit and get the assist numbers up.

Shai has a higher Usage so that should probably translate higher. He's a G while Tatum is an F. Not really that hard to figure out. As previously stated. If Tatum replaces a couple of those pullup 3's with postups or drives we're golden. We know that shot isn't coming out of his repertoire so maybe just a couple less. Otherwise, defense is great. Passing is great. Scoring is great. Nothing else to complain about.

SGA actually embraces the mid range game unlike Tatum who has had it almost completely coached out of him.

I’m fine with Tatum attempting more 3s than he did at the start of the career but completely avoiding the mid range leads to some ugly shooting nights for him and makes him easier to defend.

There’s still value in your superstar being able to work in the mid range area. KD does it, SGA does it, Kawhi does it.

I agree and it’s wild how Tatum has a great post game but doesn’t like to use it. Weird considering Kobe is his idol

[KillahGhostface]

Shai has a higher Usage so that should probably translate higher. He's a G while Tatum is an F. Not really that hard to figure out. As previously stated. If Tatum replaces a couple of those pullup 3's with postups or drives we're golden. We know that shot isn't coming out of his repertoire so maybe just a couple less. Otherwise, defense is great. Passing is great. Scoring is great. Nothing else to complain about.

SGA actually embraces the mid range game unlike Tatum who has had it almost completely coached out of him.

I’m fine with Tatum attempting more 3s than he did at the start of the career but completely avoiding the mid range leads to some ugly shooting nights for him and makes him easier to defend.

There’s still value in your superstar being able to work in the mid range area. KD does it, SGA does it, Kawhi does it.

I agree and it’s wild how Tatum has a great post game but doesn’t like to use it. Weird considering Kobe is his idol

He scores the 10th most ppg on post ups lol. More than Giannis, Zion, DeRozan, Sabonis, Luka, LeBron, KD, etc. The only people ahead of him are centers and Randle.

So it seems that he does like to use it.

[steefP2]

Shai has a higher Usage so that should probably translate higher. He's a G while Tatum is an F. Not really that hard to figure out. As previously stated. If Tatum replaces a couple of those pullup 3's with postups or drives we're golden. We know that shot isn't coming out of his repertoire so maybe just a couple less. Otherwise, defense is great. Passing is great. Scoring is great. Nothing else to complain about.

SGA actually embraces the mid range game unlike Tatum who has had it almost completely coached out of him.

I’m fine with Tatum attempting more 3s than he did at the start of the career but completely avoiding the mid range leads to some ugly shooting nights for him and makes him easier to defend.

There’s still value in your superstar being able to work in the mid range area. KD does it, SGA does it, Kawhi does it.

I agree and it’s wild how Tatum has a great post game but doesn’t like to use it. Weird considering Kobe is his idol

Tobias Harris, pascal siakam, Aaron Gordon and Jimmy butler are the non bigs who post up more in terms of % of their total possessions. And it’s all between 1 and 2.5% and they’re all way less effective at it.

[ConstableGeneva]

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Mikal Bridges has been eating Chipotle everyday since 2013.

[ConstableGeneva]

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He's been terrific most of the season, balancing being the alpha and letting his teamates shine, despite what the peanut gallery would like to tell you. He's not producing like Embiid, Jokic, Doncic, Giannis, Shae because he doesn't need to and it isn't in the best interest of the team. This is the only thing that needs correction imo (to improve his efficiency):

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[KillahGhostface]

So after 14 games, Tatum was at 35.4% on pull-ups. Then over the next 10, he was 17.5% lol, and in the 8 games since, he’s at 38%.

I’m going to choose to believe that those middle 10 games are the outlier, because I’m Mulder.

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https://www.celticsblog.com/2024/1/5/24024296/three-leaf-clover-luke-kornet-hub-jayson-tatum-off-ball-losses-dont-matter-boston-celtics-thunder argues Tatum could do more off-ball (including postups) if he devoted more energy to them. He also could surely accomplish more on defense if he devoted more energy to it.

Alas, Tatum isn't the single best-conditioned NBA player of all time, and can't quite do everything.

[Fierce1]

JT will just laugh at all the critics once the Cs win the chip.

[BK_2020]

A hugely underrated play. Tatum has the court sense to know that the pass is not meant for him. If it was Jaylen or Embiid they would've snatched that pass and there's no layup.

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[ConstableGeneva]

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[ConstableGeneva]

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Finals MVP >>> Regular Season MVP

[Fierce1]

Finals MVP is not the same as regular season MVP.

Guys like Billups and Iguodala won Finals MVP.

To be among the elites, JT needs that regular season MVP.

[BK_2020]

Finals MVP is not the same as regular season MVP.

Guys like Billups and Iguodala won Finals MVP.

To be among the elites, JT needs that regular season MVP.

FMVP means you won the championship.
Regular season MVP means you lost to the Celtics in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

[Fierce1]

Finals MVP is not the same as regular season MVP.

Guys like Billups and Iguodala won Finals MVP.

To be among the elites, JT needs that regular season MVP.

FMVP means you won the championship.
Regular season MVP means you lost to the Celtics in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

JT needs both.

Kobe has both.

Bird has both.

You get the picture.

[ConstableGeneva]

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