Gary Trent Jr. is a scrub. Change my view.

[Tom_Foolery]

To be more direct, I don't think he's above-average at shooting to three and his defence has slipped.

He's not even top 20 among SG in 3pt%. He's just average and this is his best 3pt% year as a Raptors.
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/position/shooting-guard/table/offensive/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct/dir/desc

Okay.

1) He is 73rd in the NBA in 3pt%. Using just "his" position is flawed as there are many players on that list that might be classified as SG's by ESPN that are not actually SGs. Examples - Immanuel Quickley, Kelly Oubre, Harden, Sasser, Caruso, etc.

2) He is in the top 30 or so shooters in the entire NBA in catch and shoot % (removing low volume guys)

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?CF=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A*G*100&PerMode=Totals&dir=D&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3_PCT

3) The best team in the league shoots 39.4%. GTJ is shooting 38.5%.

4) Yes this is his best season as a Raptor shooting the 3 at 38.5%. However, his career average is 38.4%. This is not some crazy outlier season.

It is pretty much unarguable that he is not above-average at shooting the 3.

Re his defense - it is not great, but again he is not a guy teams target. He is completely passable on the defensive end.

But either way, IDK what you are even arguing. I am saying GTJ is probably a MLE guy but you are arguing he is less than that or something?

Why would using "his" position be flawed, that's his group to accurately compare numbers too. It makes no sense comparing his stated to a C and PF.

That's why your above average statement is flawed. Even when you twist the stats, they are still not impressive. lol

[YogurtProducer]

To be more direct, I don't think he's above-average at shooting to three and his defence has slipped.

He's not even top 20 among SG in 3pt%. He's just average and this is his best 3pt% year as a Raptors.
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/position/shooting-guard/table/offensive/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct/dir/desc

Okay.

1) He is 73rd in the NBA in 3pt%. Using just "his" position is flawed as there are many players on that list that might be classified as SG's by ESPN that are not actually SGs. Examples - Immanuel Quickley, Kelly Oubre, Harden, Sasser, Caruso, etc.

2) He is in the top 30 or so shooters in the entire NBA in catch and shoot % (removing low volume guys)

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?CF=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A*G*100&PerMode=Totals&dir=D&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3_PCT

3) The best team in the league shoots 39.4%. GTJ is shooting 38.5%.

4) Yes this is his best season as a Raptor shooting the 3 at 38.5%. However, his career average is 38.4%. This is not some crazy outlier season.

It is pretty much unarguable that he is not above-average at shooting the 3.

Re his defense - it is not great, but again he is not a guy teams target. He is completely passable on the defensive end.

But either way, IDK what you are even arguing. I am saying GTJ is probably a MLE guy but you are arguing he is less than that or something?

Why would using "his" position be flawed, that's his group to accurately compare numbers too. It makes no sense comparing his stated to a C and PF.

That's why your above average statement is flawed. Even when you twist the stats, they are still not impressive. lol

Well for starters, even by your standards, being the 27th best shooting SG on that list still puts you above average. There are 61 players on that list... By definition, 27th is above average. But moving on from that because it is still FLAWED.

Many of the players on that list are not SGs are they are listed out of position. For additional context, if GTJ was listed as a PG he would be 18th, if he was listed as a SF he would be 15th. Those are just as much his peers as those at the "PG" or "SF" position on that list. Amongst all PG/SG/SF's he would be 57th

But by your definition of "below average", you essentially are saying there is only 60-70 above average shooters in the entire NBA.

Like come on man - this is as disingenuous as it gets.

Edit: Maybe this will make it more clear. ESPN has 30 PGs, 51SGs, and 35SFs on their listings (which supports that the SG position by ESPN is used as a dumping ground for players), and it only includes players that are on pace for 82 3PM in the season - AKA it does not even show the shooters who are so bad (or play so few minutes) that they will not even hit 82 3PM this season.

[PushDaRock]

He will get less than whatever Monk gets in the summer.

Monk has turned himself into a really nice playmaker. The transformation from a chucker to a good passer doesn't happen too often, so credit to him.