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Re: Around the NBA Continued 

Post#1741 » by BKlutch » Sat Jan 6, 2024 11:35 pm

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Not many knicks fans in the Chicagoland area, but luckily we're all clear on the latter lol. Funnily enough she's almost the same age as I was when I had my first "real GF" who was almost the same age I am now.

Sorry, didn't know you're so far away from the Mecca. But I've got some friends there, and it seems like there's lots of good folks in Chicago, so let u know if something good comes of this. Took me forever to find the right one, but not because of anything to do with the Knicks.


Berlin will always be home for me, but Chicago has become home too and I can't help but love this town, despite how insanely segregated it still is and how f***ed up the CPD can be.


There's a strong connection with both of the girls I'm seeing and they both know that I feel a strong connection to each them...but I still have work to do on myself after that last relationship, haven't fully let all of that baggage go yet.

Relationships can be harder than becoming a good two way player on both offense and defense. :wink:
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Re: Around the NBA Continued 

Post#1742 » by cgf » Sat Jan 6, 2024 11:39 pm

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BKlutch wrote:Sorry, didn't know you're so far away from the Mecca. But I've got some friends there, and it seems like there's lots of good folks in Chicago, so let u know if something good comes of this. Took me forever to find the right one, but not because of anything to do with the Knicks.


Berlin will always be home for me, but Chicago has become home too and I can't help but love this town, despite how insanely segregated it still is and how f***ed up the CPD can be.


There's a strong connection with both of the girls I'm seeing and they both know that I feel a strong connection to each them...but I still have work to do on myself after that last relationship, haven't fully let all of that baggage go yet.

Relationships can be harder than becoming a good two way player on both offense and defense. :wink:


Some day, me or my ex needs to write a book or two about the s*** we went-/put-each-other though :lol:
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Post#1743 » by The Vo Show » Sat Jan 6, 2024 11:50 pm

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Capn'O wrote:IQ is a good player but it's gonna take him some time to adjust to being a lead guard if he ever does.

I think IQ should probably be a secondary ball-handler/playmaker. Asking him to be a lead guard may be asking just a little too much. Lonzo would be an amazing backcourt mate for him.

However, the Raptors have been +14.1 points per 100 possessions better with IQ on the court. It's not just a lineup thing because their other new starter is -1.4.

So I'd say IQ's off to a pretty good start in Toronto.

They just lack talent overall so they're gonna lose games.

I'd say Scottie/IQ is a solid foundation but now they need a bonafide 3&D guy around them..


I thought Scottie Barnes was their full time playmaker and IQ was the secondary?

I agree that now they need some shooters and they should have a pretty good team. They should go get Turner and Hield from the Pacers for Siakim and Trent. Not sure if the Pacers would want that but I think Siakim is a nice fit for them, just maybe not at the loss of Turner.
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Post#1744 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jan 7, 2024 12:21 am

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Capn'O wrote:IQ is a good player but it's gonna take him some time to adjust to being a lead guard if he ever does.

I think IQ should probably be a secondary ball-handler/playmaker. Asking him to be a lead guard may be asking just a little too much. Lonzo would be an amazing backcourt mate for him.

However, the Raptors have been +14.1 points per 100 possessions better with IQ on the court. It's not just a lineup thing because their other new starter is -1.4.

So I'd say IQ's off to a pretty good start in Toronto.

They just lack talent overall so they're gonna lose games.

I'd say Scottie/IQ is a solid foundation but now they need a bonafide 3&D guy around them..


I thought Scottie Barnes was their full time playmaker and IQ was the secondary?

I agree that now they need some shooters and they should have a pretty good team. They should go get Turner and Hield from the Pacers for Siakim and Trent. Not sure if the Pacers would want that but I think Siakim is a nice fit for them, just maybe not at the loss of Turner.

Toronto want younger players. They could trade for Huerter from Sacramento. Of course they want Murray too, but they won’t get him.
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Post#1745 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jan 7, 2024 2:03 am

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Oh, I'm not going bald, I have some solid Bajan genes. It's just that my momma passed down her graying traits to me and i started going gray at 27. I got tired of dying my hair and during the pandemic i just started shaving my head and I've stayed that way :lol:



smfh - you're out here shaving off a perfectly fine head of grey hair while some of us are doing combovers.


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Post#1746 » by cgf » Sun Jan 7, 2024 2:08 am

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Chanel Bomber wrote:I think IQ should probably be a secondary ball-handler/playmaker. Asking him to be a lead guard may be asking just a little too much. Lonzo would be an amazing backcourt mate for him.

However, the Raptors have been +14.1 points per 100 possessions better with IQ on the court. It's not just a lineup thing because their other new starter is -1.4.

So I'd say IQ's off to a pretty good start in Toronto.

They just lack talent overall so they're gonna lose games.

I'd say Scottie/IQ is a solid foundation but now they need a bonafide 3&D guy around them..


I thought Scottie Barnes was their full time playmaker and IQ was the secondary?

I agree that now they need some shooters and they should have a pretty good team. They should go get Turner and Hield from the Pacers for Siakim and Trent. Not sure if the Pacers would want that but I think Siakim is a nice fit for them, just maybe not at the loss of Turner.

Toronto want younger players. They could trade for Huerter from Sacramento. Of course they want Murray too, but they won’t get him.


They wanted younger players in the OG trade. Was that part of a master plan from Masai to avoid rebuilding? Was that specifically to target a guard that paired well with Barnes? Or was that just because Masai really liked Quickley and so was willing to take an L on pretty much every other part of the deal as long as he got the guard he loved?

Of course they'd love Murray and the Kings might still do enough crazy s*** to trade him...maybe...if they're drunk...but I'm just saying that just because he seemed to target IQ in the OG trade, doesn't mean Masai won't end up taking a more pick heavy deal for Siakam...especially if he actually believes in RJ.
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Post#1747 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Jan 7, 2024 3:00 am

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Post#1748 » by knicks94 » Sun Jan 7, 2024 3:28 am

Maxey cannot carry his team the way that Brunson can when the best scorer on his team is missing in action.
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Post#1749 » by GettinitDone » Sun Jan 7, 2024 6:06 am

3toheadmelo wrote:tbh i kinda want the clippers to come out of the west. they seem like they're having fun
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I think it's their year tbh

If we go to Finals, we ain't beating em or Nuggets

We can beat all 27 other teams but not those 2
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Post#1750 » by HopelessKnick » Sun Jan 7, 2024 8:41 am

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I think it's their year tbh

If we go to Finals, we ain't beating em or Nuggets

We can beat all 27 other teams but not those 2


Keep in mind the year when Kawhi went down against the Jazz they were looking like title favorites. They will have to stay healthy. If they do then yes....I would almost favor them against anybody. They'll beat the Nuggest too.

BTW, anyone subtely enjoying the Jazz winning games? Gotta love to see Ainge stuck in late lottery territory.
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Post#1751 » by HopelessKnick » Sun Jan 7, 2024 8:47 am

Milwaukee has taken a step back. It almost seems like Holiday's defense outweighs Lillard's offense at this point. Case in point? Indiana with Haliburton beat the 4 out of 5 times---the last two times despite Milwaukee seeking revenge and what not. Lillard makes their defense much worse.

On the other hand the Celtics stopped Haliburton completely, blowing out the Pacers in their building. This is what Jrue and White do for you. I actually thought in the offseason we should have targeted Holiday. I was happy when he was at least out of the eastern conference, now he is back with the Celtics. Looking foward to see how Brunson is going to fare against them but something tells me he is going to have a tough time scoring as well.

I think the Celtics are clearly a notch above all other east teams. If they stay healthy I don't see anybody beating them. A Celtic vs. Clippers or Nuggets matchup is going to be fun. I still think Kawhi would be coming out on top. He is going to put Tatum on an island. But it is a long way until that point...
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Post#1752 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jan 7, 2024 9:08 am

Markkanen 12/19, 33 points, 13 rebounds
Randle 13/23, 39 points

They played Markkanen at starting center. What would it take to place him next to Randle? Fournier and Mitch won’t cut it I guess.

Btw, overrated Jaylen Brown 13/20, 31 points.
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Post#1753 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jan 7, 2024 9:15 am

Fournier, Robinson, Grimes, picks, picks, picks

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Markkanen and Sexton (or Clarkson or Olynyk) works. I’m ready. You could always trade Markkanen for the biggest fish later. Nice contract, young player, legit 7-footer, great shooter. I’m in.
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Post#1754 » by The Vo Show » Sun Jan 7, 2024 10:30 am

HopelessKnick wrote:Milwaukee has taken a step back. It almost seems like Holiday's defense outweighs Lillard's offense at this point. Case in point? Indiana with Haliburton beat the 4 out of 5 times---the last two times despite Milwaukee seeking revenge and what not. Lillard makes their defense much worse.

On the other hand the Celtics stopped Haliburton completely, blowing out the Pacers in their building. This is what Jrue and White do for you. I actually thought in the offseason we should have targeted Holiday. I was happy when he was at least out of the eastern conference, now he is back with the Celtics. Looking foward to see how Brunson is going to fare against them but something tells me he is going to have a tough time scoring as well.

I think the Celtics are clearly a notch above all other east teams. If they stay healthy I don't see anybody beating them. A Celtic vs. Clippers or Nuggets matchup is going to be fun. I still think Kawhi would be coming out on top. He is going to put Tatum on an island. But it is a long way until that point...


I think the difference between the two teams this year is going to make backcourt defenders going up in value. The trend has been going towards scoring guards but I think if I were a GM, I'm looking for ok offense, great defensive young guards. With both your guards being good defensively, it'll eliminate a lot of the issues with switching. Then get scoring wing and scoring big (either C or PF) and then get a defensive big and you have a top 5 starting 5.
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Post#1755 » by HopelessKnick » Sun Jan 7, 2024 11:25 am

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HopelessKnick wrote:Milwaukee has taken a step back. It almost seems like Holiday's defense outweighs Lillard's offense at this point. Case in point? Indiana with Haliburton beat the 4 out of 5 times---the last two times despite Milwaukee seeking revenge and what not. Lillard makes their defense much worse.

On the other hand the Celtics stopped Haliburton completely, blowing out the Pacers in their building. This is what Jrue and White do for you. I actually thought in the offseason we should have targeted Holiday. I was happy when he was at least out of the eastern conference, now he is back with the Celtics. Looking foward to see how Brunson is going to fare against them but something tells me he is going to have a tough time scoring as well.

I think the Celtics are clearly a notch above all other east teams. If they stay healthy I don't see anybody beating them. A Celtic vs. Clippers or Nuggets matchup is going to be fun. I still think Kawhi would be coming out on top. He is going to put Tatum on an island. But it is a long way until that point...


I think the difference between the two teams this year is going to make backcourt defenders going up in value. The trend has been going towards scoring guards but I think if I were a GM, I'm looking for ok offense, great defensive young guards. With both your guards being good defensively, it'll eliminate a lot of the issues with switching. Then get scoring wing and scoring big (either C or PF) and then get a defensive big and you have a top 5 starting 5.


Yeah pretty much. Really 1 through 4 the Celtics can switch at will. They have no hole in their defense, you can't pick on any of their players really---well maybe KP.
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Post#1756 » by HopelessKnick » Sun Jan 7, 2024 11:54 am

spree2kawhi wrote:Markkanen 12/19, 33 points, 13 rebounds
Randle 13/23, 39 points

They played Markkanen at starting center. What would it take to place him next to Randle? Fournier and Mitch won’t cut it I guess.

Btw, overrated Jaylen Brown 13/20, 31 points.


Fournier, Grimes and multiple FRPs (like 4-5). You would only go for Markannen if you believe that he could put us over the top. Can he though?

Brunson/McBride
OG/DD/Hart
Markannen/OG
Randle/Markannen
IHart/Markannen

BTW I read somewhere that Knicks aren't really interested in Markannen. Take it for what it's worth. Offensively I do think he'd work very well. Can play off ball, makes good cuts and is a great shooter and very good rebounder.
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Post#1757 » by stuporman » Sun Jan 7, 2024 3:39 pm

Learning RJ has bad food takes sounds on brand to me...quick..someone post the RJ sandwich gif over there, they need a coping mechanism.
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Post#1758 » by stuporman » Sun Jan 7, 2024 4:00 pm

Use the rationale I prefer with any player in evaluating the prospects, the highest demonstrated, meaning actually doing it on the court not potentially could do it, offensive and defensive skill set. Don't give me potential skills, I want skills they actually do.

This was how I wanted DMitch over the other options even though his defense hasn't translated as well, I wanted SGA over the other options even over Mikal Bridges, who I also wanted. It's why I liked IQ, too, this is the way I look at the draft but it also should be the way we look at FAs and trade targets.

My favorite prospects are always the players with the highest level of demonstrated offensive and defensive ability on both ends of the court. Keep picking and adding those and eventually one or two pan out into stars, the rest can be solid role players to fill out the roster.
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Post#1759 » by Wildcat » Sun Jan 7, 2024 4:04 pm

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I think it's their year tbh

If we go to Finals, we ain't beating em or Nuggets

We can beat all 27 other teams but not those 2


You know one PG or Leonard are going down with an injury like clockwork.
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Post#1760 » by robillionaire » Sun Jan 7, 2024 4:13 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:Milwaukee has taken a step back. It almost seems like Holiday's defense outweighs Lillard's offense at this point. Case in point? Indiana with Haliburton beat the 4 out of 5 times---the last two times despite Milwaukee seeking revenge and what not. Lillard makes their defense much worse.

On the other hand the Celtics stopped Haliburton completely, blowing out the Pacers in their building. This is what Jrue and White do for you. I actually thought in the offseason we should have targeted Holiday. I was happy when he was at least out of the eastern conference, now he is back with the Celtics. Looking foward to see how Brunson is going to fare against them but something tells me he is going to have a tough time scoring as well.

I think the Celtics are clearly a notch above all other east teams. If they stay healthy I don't see anybody beating them. A Celtic vs. Clippers or Nuggets matchup is going to be fun. I still think Kawhi would be coming out on top. He is going to put Tatum on an island. But it is a long way until that point...


I agree about Holiday and if we had him now we would be ridiculously good. And Boston wouldn’t have him. But we will have other options

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