76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[fkd215]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/18zj7q7/stein_the_strong_sense_ive_gotten_is_that_they/

If Marc Stein is to be believed on this, then there is no way we’re making a move of consequence during the season.

I agree that it's unlikely that we'll make a move for a star, for the simple reason that I don't think we can tie up so much more money/cap space in one person going forward. If we let everyone expire and we do make our first round pick for 2024, we'd have 5 guys on the next season roster, meaning we'd have to figure out how to get 10 more players to just field a roster. Using only cap space to do that would already be a major challenge, and way more so if we tie up star-level money in one player. I don't think counting on vet minimum guys for more than 2-3 roster spots is workable.

For that reason, I think we're going to have to trade at least some of our expirings for multiple players with contracts beyond this year. So I do think we'll make that kind of move, possibly more than one.

[Negrodamus]

I do think the Warriors could break up at least one of the trio to make a run at it with whatever is left of Curry after this year. Having to pay Draymond 22 mil/year and Wiggins 24 mil/year for 4 more years is going to be prohibitive towards getting actual talent around Curry. With CP3 out indefinitely, it doesn't seem like they are going to make any kind of real run this year, so they should prep for the upcoming offseason and let Curry sit for the rest of the season next time his ankle starts to hurt.

With that said, if we aren't making a real run at a "star" and next FA being underwhelming, I'd say the Hawks and Warriors are our two main targets to send Tobias's expiring. Possibly Indiana too.

[Jailblazers7]

Makes sense that we’d be patient since we finally cleaned up our cap sheet, restocked our draft capital, and still sit 3rd in the East. Morey has slowly & painstakingly rebuilt the roster over the last 3 years so I wouldn’t expect him to do something rash now.

[the_process]

I do think the Warriors could break up at least one of the trio to make a run at it with whatever is left of Curry after this year. Having to pay Draymond 22 mil/year and Wiggins 24 mil/year for 4 more years is going to be prohibitive towards getting actual talent around Curry. With CP3 out indefinitely, it doesn't seem like they are going to make any kind of real run this year, so they should prep for the upcoming offseason and let Curry sit for the rest of the season next time his ankle starts to hurt.

With that said, if we aren't making a real run at a "star" and next FA being underwhelming, I'd say the Hawks and Warriors are our two main targets to send Tobias's expiring. Possibly Indiana too.

I'd say Golden State and Sacramento are the best places to ship Tobias.

[M2J]

Makes sense that we’d be patient since we finally cleaned up our cap sheet, restocked our draft capital, and still sit 3rd in the East. Morey has slowly & painstakingly rebuilt the roster over the last 3 years so I wouldn’t expect him to do something rash now.

I hear you, and that's all true. Problem with that is, you really lose a lot of options by waiting until the off-season. Sure, you could max Siakam, who would be the only possible really helpful player this summer (may not be if he's traded elsewhere), but going with cap space is uncertain and doesn't allow you to go over your cap room to fill out the roster. I.e. you may lose Tobias, Melton, Oubre (worst loss of all), Batum while picking up that 1 player. Where as Morey should make the trade in season, keep Melton and hope to keep Oubre with MLE.

Plus Joel is playing at his absolute peak. Tyrese is a legit all star, you got him, Kelly, Batum and Melton cheap. This is the year you go for it.

[Negrodamus]

Why are Sixer fans bringing up Lauri so much? Still pretty young and obviously talented. Why would a rebuilding team give him up right now?

[ProcessDoctor]

Why are Sixer fans bringing up Lauri so much? Still pretty young and obviously talented. Why would a rebuilding team give him up right now?

Because there's been smoke from Jake Fischer that he's available for the right price.

Utah is nowhere near contention and would be in a position to have to offer him a max extension this summer. Probably too soon for their timeline.

I'm hopeful we could target Clarkson and/or Olynyk in the process. I would attach all of our picks and swaps in a Harris/Reed/Korkmaz for Lauri/Olynyk/Clarkson trade.


Maxey/Clarkson/Beverley
Melton/Oubre/Springer
Batum/Morris/House
Lauri/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba

[LeonJordanJr24]

Above all this teams fresh energy over Tobias Harris. 6 years is long enough. He ain't a winner nor does he have the drive and will to be that player as one of the top guys. A add on maybe but we don't have that luxury yet and we've seen him years ago in that situation and he and cast came up short. A wing with size ,defense and athleticism should be priority in a trade .


Also , we need to upgrade Melton as a starter into more size and playmaking.

[NYSixersFan]

Who exactly are we signing or trading for in the off-season to make it worthwhile throwing this year away?

[FireMorey]

The Sixers biggest need is another go to scorer from the perimeter not named Maxey. It will be their biggest issue in the playoffs. Problem is, unlikely they can get that kind of guy until the summer, if at all. If Maxey doesn't light it up against the best teams, the Sixers have no chance and that's an unfair ask of Maxey.

[Murray_17]

Why are Sixer fans bringing up Lauri so much? Still pretty young and obviously talented. Why would a rebuilding team give him up right now?

Because he's probably not a building long term piece for Utah and his contract situation makes his value even bigger than what a normal player of Markenen level would fetch.

His max is also not as ridiculous as what someone like Siakam would command

[76ciology]

Who exactly are we signing or trading for in the off-season to make it worthwhile throwing this year away?

Winning back to back MVP is worth more than a championship trophy.

[youngcrev]

Regardless of Lauri's potential availability, it's hard to imagine the Sixers would have the high bid with what they have to put on the table. Same goes for Bridges. If either guy goes on the market, interest will be vast and the cost will be substantial.

[76ciology]

If Lauri is on the block, he’d more likely end up with the Thunders or the Pelicans or the Magic or the Nets and the list goes on.

[Murray_17]

Regardless of Lauri's potential availability, it's hard to imagine the Sixers would have the high bid with what they have to put on the table. Same goes for Bridges. If either guy goes on the market, interest will be vast and the cost will be substantial.

The issue is the only real contender that can met the price is OKC, and maybe Orlando, which is Valuable young guys + picks. The rest of the possible contenders (us, Miami, knicks, etc) only have picks and expiring to offer and teams that are rebuilding are not gonna trade for Lauri until they have a real number 1 guy

And the value of both Markenen and Bridges is gonna go down after their contracts go out. So there could be pressure to make a trade.

It's a balancing act at the end of the day, for example Toronto got Quickley by trading OG now, but they could have got more net value by trading OG earlier. I guess it depends on what the strategy teams like Utah or Brooklyn have to their rebuild.

[youngcrev]

Regardless of Lauri's potential availability, it's hard to imagine the Sixers would have the high bid with what they have to put on the table. Same goes for Bridges. If either guy goes on the market, interest will be vast and the cost will be substantial.

The issue is the only real contender that can met the price is OKC which is Valuable young guys + picks. The rest of the contenders (us, miami, knicks, etc) only have picks and expiring to offer

And the value of both Markenen and Bridges is gonna go down after their contracts go out. So there could be pressure to make a trade.

Those guys are young enough that it wouldn't just be contenders putting deals on the table though. Pretty much every team in the league would have some level of interest, and we can only put 3 1sts on the table (1 of which being the mediocre OKC pick in '26, and the other 2 being pretty far down the line in '28 and '30).

[Murray_17]

Those guys are young enough that it wouldn't just be contenders putting deals on the table though. Pretty much every team in the league would have some level of interest, and we can only put 3 1sts on the table (1 of which being the mediocre OKC pick in '26, and the other 2 being pretty far down the line in '28 and '30).

I don't agree tho.

Guys like Bridges and Lauri are super valuable but only as a compliment to established teams. If other teams trade with the thinking they're legitimate number 1 guys, they lose a lot of value.

[youngcrev]

Those guys are young enough that it wouldn't just be contenders putting deals on the table though. Pretty much every team in the league would have some level of interest, and we can only put 3 1sts on the table (1 of which being the mediocre OKC pick in '26, and the other 2 being pretty far down the line in '28 and '30).

I don't agree tho.

Guys like Bridges and Lauri are super valuable but only as a compliment to established teams. If other teams trade with the thinking they're legitimate number 1 guys, they lose a lot of value.

The Hawks aren't contenders, you don't think they wouldn't want either of those guys next to Trae? Raptors next to Barnes? All 11 teams ahead of the Jazz in the West? Hell, I dont think you could rule out the Pistons from making an offer.

[Murray_17]

The Hawks aren't contenders, you don't think they wouldn't want either of those guys next to Trae? Raptors next to Barnes? All 11 teams ahead of the Jazz in the West? Hell, I dont think you could rule out the Pistons from making an offer.

What are the Hawks or the Raptors offer that can get them those guys? Murray? Siakam? outside of the picks that doesn't help Brooklyn or the Jazz at all.

The Pistons don't have picks and outside of Duren/Cade they cannot offer a better package than us or other contenders like Miami

[mjkvol]

Makes sense that we’d be patient since we finally cleaned up our cap sheet, restocked our draft capital, and still sit 3rd in the East. Morey has slowly & painstakingly rebuilt the roster over the last 3 years so I wouldn’t expect him to do something rash now.

And I hope he doesn't, and if the right trade doesn't come along then just sit tight until the summer. I'd much prefer that to making some kind of desperation move, or worse yet trading for Lavine.