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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#761 » by RookieStar » Mon Jan 8, 2024 9:39 pm

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Last Guardian wrote:I said it many times...if Paolo and Franz are going to have crazy high usage, there is no reason not to play Suggs at PG. Hes capable of making plays but he wouldn't have to do it all that much. He's light years ahead of AB for sure. Find a really good SG to pair with him.

Sucks for Fultz shot, I did love his handling and passes though.



Problem is that Suggs tends to do too much when he is the PG and although his handles have improved they are still not PG level.


If we dump everything to Paolo and let him create like what we lately have been doing, we don't need a traditional Point Guard anymore so Suggs is fine there.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#762 » by eyriq » Mon Jan 8, 2024 9:57 pm

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eyriq wrote:I feel like knightro warps reality so that he's always right.

Discounts Fultz's contributions, pushes to sell high, tells us to take Fultz's "I just said **** it" moment with a grain of salt, and indeed Fultz has regressed and is as bad as ever.

Tells us Weltman is indecisive and trying to win without making win-now moves, and indeed both lottery picks were planned to be out of the rotation while we just let things play out without a proactive fart to sniff from Weltman's direction.


That's not nice

EDIT: Unless that was complimentary, in which case I've always respected you :nod:
Hahaha yeah it's a compliment

Edit: maybe instead of warp reality I should say alter the fabric of space and time. I'm not talking about psychological gymnastics and more about omniscient control of reality. It's just hilarious to me how right you've been, almost kind of spooky.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#763 » by eyriq » Mon Jan 8, 2024 10:02 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
eyriq wrote:I feel like knightro warps reality so that he's always right.

Discounts Fultz's contributions, pushes to sell high, tells us to take Fultz's "I just said **** it" moment with a grain of salt, and indeed Fultz has regressed and is as bad as ever.

Tells us Weltman is indecisive and trying to win without making win-now moves, and indeed both lottery picks were planned to be out of the rotation while we just let things play out without a proactive fart to sniff from Weltman's direction.


To be fair… He’s reading the tea leaves like most of us.
Yeah, you've both been plugged in. Impressive stuff. I don't think it was easy to get those reads from the tea leaves. I think that kind of perspective is impressive because it cuts against the grain.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#764 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jan 8, 2024 10:19 pm

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Optimus_Steel wrote:
Last Guardian wrote:I said it many times...if Paolo and Franz are going to have crazy high usage, there is no reason not to play Suggs at PG. Hes capable of making plays but he wouldn't have to do it all that much. He's light years ahead of AB for sure. Find a really good SG to pair with him.

Sucks for Fultz shot, I did love his handling and passes though.



Problem is that Suggs tends to do too much when he is the PG and although his handles have improved they are still not PG level.


If we dump everything to Paolo and let him create like what we lately have been doing, we don't need a traditional Point Guard anymore so Suggs is fine there.





We are going to wear him out if we do that. We need him fresh for clutch situations.
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Post#765 » by tooler » Mon Jan 8, 2024 10:48 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:

Problem is that Suggs tends to do too much when he is the PG and although his handles have improved they are still not PG level.


If we dump everything to Paolo and let him create like what we lately have been doing, we don't need a traditional Point Guard anymore so Suggs is fine there.





We are going to wear him out if we do that. We need him fresh for clutch situations.

And the playoffs. Paolo and Franz handling the ball will eventually become unstoppable. But it’s an 82 game season.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#766 » by tiderulz » Mon Jan 8, 2024 10:49 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
Last Guardian wrote:I said it many times...if Paolo and Franz are going to have crazy high usage, there is no reason not to play Suggs at PG. Hes capable of making plays but he wouldn't have to do it all that much. He's light years ahead of AB for sure. Find a really good SG to pair with him.

Sucks for Fultz shot, I did love his handling and passes though.



Problem is that Suggs tends to do too much when he is the PG and although his handles have improved they are still not PG level.


If we dump everything to Paolo and let him create like what we lately have been doing, we don't need a traditional Point Guard anymore so Suggs is fine there.

i dont think we need to tire him out that much or put that much on him.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#767 » by DiplomaticMagic » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:29 am

I hope when other players come back, we dont continue to gift Markelle minutes. I know AB is a total negative on offense but still would rather have him get playing time and develop than try to rebuild with Fultz. Its so obvious hes not part of the future.

Also I agree with some posters here, I think I would start Caleb and Suggs when everyone is healthy, Cole and AB off bench. It balances both the starting lineup and bench imo.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#768 » by pepe1991 » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:34 am

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pepe1991 wrote:Isaac should have been medically retired back in 2021

And lose out on guaranteed money, that’s crazy. If you had a job paying you millions and they are patient enough to wait for you, you would quit and say, no thank you? Especially when the team wasn’t good anyway?


Medical retirement would mean he gets payed whatever he is owned, but labeled disabled to play.
That's how Mozgov's career ended. He got his $15 000 000 but no longer was able to play.

Truth is, he incapable of playing professional league due medical reasons, he is hurt, he will again get hurt at some point. He is 26-27, it's not like he will be close to 30 or older and by some miracle become healthier.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#769 » by drsd » Tue Jan 9, 2024 12:58 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:This Magic board can so bipolar. Franz misses a couple rare games and suddenly he is trade bait. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Herr Wagner will be offered a contract extension way, way-north of 150M USD. He is not gonna be traded. No way and no how.

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 36: Atlanta Hawks (14-20) at Orlando Magic (20-15) - 6pm 

Post#770 » by drsd » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:02 pm

DiplomaticMagic wrote:I hope when other players come back, we dont continue to gift Markelle minutes. I know AB is a total negative on offense but still would rather have him get playing time and develop than try to rebuild with Fultz. Its so obvious hes not part of the future.

Also I agree with some posters here, I think I would start Caleb and Suggs when everyone is healthy, Cole and AB off bench. It balances both the starting lineup and bench imo.


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At this point, this is my desired 12-man rotation .

Suggs/Anthony/Black
Houstan/G-Harris
F-Wagner/Ingles
Banchero/Isaac
Bitadze/Carter/M-Wagner

(( finding minutes for Black and M-Wagner will be tough when the whole roster is healthy, and I thus still support a consolidation trade mid-season ))

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