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% Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team

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Paolo making the All-Star Team

80 or higher %
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27%
70-80%
7
11%
60-70%
11
17%
50-60%
9
14%
40-50%
4
6%
30-40%
2
3%
30 or Lower %
13
21%
 
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#21 » by tooler » Mon Jan 8, 2024 6:25 pm

Team record will be the determining factor.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#22 » by basketballRob » Mon Jan 8, 2024 7:44 pm

Paolo is 21 and already better than Randle.

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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#23 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Jan 8, 2024 7:52 pm

Fan voting won’t do it this round. Fricken Kuzma was ahead of him last I saw.

I doubt he gets picked ahead of others by coaches.

It is what it is for young guys. Some have to wait a bit.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#24 » by tooler » Mon Jan 8, 2024 10:49 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:Fan voting won’t do it this round. Fricken Kuzma was ahead of him last I saw.

I doubt he gets picked ahead of others by coaches.

It is what it is for young guys. Some have to wait a bit.

Coaches will certainly pick him if we’re top 4 in the East. Lower than that is TBD.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#25 » by Chuck Everett » Tue Jan 9, 2024 12:24 am

Jimmy Butler is a part-time player in the regular season, so he's out. Paolo having a better season than Barnes, Bridges as well. Magic maintain this pace in the W-L column, I don't see the coaches not rewarding him. I voted 80%.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#26 » by golfreak » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:09 am

golfreak wrote:It's obvious Giannis Embiid and Tatum will be in.
That leaves 3 more front court and 2 wild cards.

23.1 ppg-Paolo
24.3ppg-Randle
22.7ppg-Jaylen(don't know why he's a front court this year)
22.0ppg-Adebayo
21.0ppg-Butler
22.1ppg-Siakam
21.2ppg-Bridges
19.8ppg-Porzingis
20.5ppg-Barnes

There's no way he doesn't get picked. If Paolo is left out, there will be a big outcry.
Leader of the playoff team. It's 100% now.


For people that don't think Paolo is 100% in, what player on that list would be ahead of him ?
I think Brown and Randle maybe picked ahead of Paolo.
There's 3 more available spots, who could possibly be ahead of him ??
Either Adebayo or Butler but not both. Still 2 spots. I don't see anyone else more deserving.
Siakam Bridges and Barnes play for all losing teams.
Unless Paolo get injured, its the only way I see him not getting in.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#27 » by tooler » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:30 am

Are there guards that would take the wild cards?
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#28 » by thelead » Tue Jan 9, 2024 2:43 am

golfreak wrote:
golfreak wrote:It's obvious Giannis Embiid and Tatum will be in.
That leaves 3 more front court and 2 wild cards.

23.1 ppg-Paolo
24.3ppg-Randle
22.7ppg-Jaylen(don't know why he's a front court this year)
22.0ppg-Adebayo
21.0ppg-Butler
22.1ppg-Siakam
21.2ppg-Bridges
19.8ppg-Porzingis
20.5ppg-Barnes

There's no way he doesn't get picked. If Paolo is left out, there will be a big outcry.
Leader of the playoff team. It's 100% now.


For people that don't think Paolo is 100% in, what player on that list would be ahead of him ?
I think Brown and Randle maybe picked ahead of Paolo.
There's 3 more available spots, who could possibly be ahead of him ??
Either Adebayo or Butler but not both. Still 2 spots. I don't see anyone else more deserving.
Siakam Bridges and Barnes play for all losing teams.
Unless Paolo get injured, its the only way I see him not getting in.


He could have a rough next ~3-4 weeks, both statistically and team record-wise, and that would probably knock him out. We just need to keep winning at a ~50% clip (minimum) while he puts up 20/7 the rest of the way. He 'should' get in but it is most certainly not a lock.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#29 » by tooler » Tue Jan 9, 2024 2:46 am

Given that 5 teams are about to be tied for 4th in the East, we could easily end up 8th and he'd probably miss out.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#30 » by MasterGMer » Tue Jan 9, 2024 3:28 am

I think our team record will play a huge role in deciding Paolo's All Star game candidacy. I really hope he could be in. It will change a lot of narrative among him and our organization.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#31 » by pepe1991 » Tue Jan 9, 2024 6:42 am

tooler wrote:Are there guards that would take the wild cards?


ÅŸtarters : Hali & Lillard

bench: 2 of- Brunson/Michell/Trae/Maxey

wild card: whoever isn't picked for bench gets 1 card for sure.

Those guys put crazy numbers.
Trae 28 ppg -11 apg
Mitchell- 27-6-5
Brunson 26-6-4
Maxey 26-6-4


It's worth noting that by ESPN's RPM Mitchell & Maxey are top 10 players in nba.

Starters will be revealed at January 25th.
Reserves won't be revealed until February 1st.

The thing is, by that point, you can expect whole lot of trades, deadline for trades is February 8th.

Thing about allstar game is that it doesn't impact Magic's future if Paolo gets there or not, however, if he becomes all nba selectee player, it impacts future salary a lot. Because in that case, he would fit Derrick Rose criteria and his exstension would be astronomical from a day one ( 30% of salary).

This is OKC's potential nightmare scenario as well, Chet wins DPOY ( and can easly both DPOY & ROY) and he falls into Derrick Rose rule, and him and SGA in 2027 are eligiable for some $120M :lol: :lol:
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#32 » by Skybox » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:07 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
tooler wrote:Are there guards that would take the wild cards?



Thing about allstar game is that it doesn't impact Magic's future if Paolo gets there or not, however, if he becomes all nba selectee player, it impacts future salary a lot. Because in that case, he would fit Derrick Rose criteria and his exstension would be astronomical from a day one ( 30% of salary).

This is OKC's potential nightmare scenario as well, Chet wins DPOY ( and can easly both DPOY & ROY) and he falls into Derrick Rose rule, and him and SGA in 2027 are eligiable for some $120M :lol: :lol:



Yeah...these salary "awards" are a serious detriment. Of course you want your young guys to be great, but it's a double-edged sword that was compounded even more by the new CBA...If you're not a major market, "I'll pay the penalty regardless" team, (we're not) you have to be really prudent building a team...you just can't have too many guys getting paid on the same timeline and sustain it. It's fine if they all hit while you're contending, like BOS, but it's really hard to build around those deals. OKC decided they had to ship out young James Harden because they saw financial constraints approaching. Some media are saying MIN (a team on the rise) can't possibly keep their existing team together - even as soon as next year. Jaden McDaniels is a really good role player, but you just can't pay your 5th best player 5yr/$131m when you've got 3 other max or near max players.

That's why, imo, this is the ideal time to trade for an expensive-but cost-controlled player before Suggs, Franz, and then Paolo's big deals drop in. We can reload the supporting cast with cap space but waiting and hoping for key guys to "develop" gets dicier pretty soon. Having a guy like Jett baking in the G-League is (disappointing but) fine, but hanging on to our PGs with the idea that in 2 or 3 years they'll "get it" is not sensible. This is also why retaining Fultz should be less than zero %.

Weltman's patience is tough for me, as a fan, but he's certainly been prudent with giving out deals...descending when we have cap space, Team Options, salaries for WCJ & Cole, etc...I don't think he's made a bad deal, considering timeline etc...the better we get, the tougher that gets. Don't be shocked if we make a deal that seems (to us) like a loss because he really is "playing 3D chess" with upcoming cap concerns.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#33 » by OrlDave » Tue Jan 9, 2024 6:19 pm

Since this was posted and I voted 50-60% he's averaged 29.6 over those 8 games and taken that number up to like 90%.

I was looking at his monthly stats: October (4 games 12.5) November (14 games 20.9) December (14 games 25.0) and January so far (4 games 34.3). At this rate, he'll be at 40ppg for February.
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Re: % Chance that Paolo Makes the All-Star Team 

Post#34 » by golfreak » Tue Jan 9, 2024 11:46 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
tooler wrote:Are there guards that would take the wild cards?


ÅŸtarters : Hali & Lillard

bench: 2 of- Brunson/Michell/Trae/Maxey

wild card: whoever isn't picked for bench gets 1 card for sure.

Those guys put crazy numbers.
Trae 28 ppg -11 apg
Mitchell- 27-6-5
Brunson 26-6-4
Maxey 26-6-4


It's worth noting that by ESPN's RPM Mitchell & Maxey are top 10 players in nba.

Starters will be revealed at January 25th.
Reserves won't be revealed until February 1st.

The thing is, by that point, you can expect whole lot of trades, deadline for trades is February 8th.

Thing about allstar game is that it doesn't impact Magic's future if Paolo gets there or not, however, if he becomes all nba selectee player, it impacts future salary a lot. Because in that case, he would fit Derrick Rose criteria and his exstension would be astronomical from a day one ( 30% of salary).

This is OKC's potential nightmare scenario as well, Chet wins DPOY ( and can easly both DPOY & ROY) and he falls into Derrick Rose rule, and him and SGA in 2027 are eligiable for some $120M :lol: :lol:


Halliburton, Lamelo, Edwards all signed max contracts with the Rose kicker. Meaning if they get any of those awards, they get the 30% instead of 25%
Pretty sure Paolo will get the same deal.
Now the hard part is Franz. Hopefully he's just good enough and not great cause he's looking like a Desmond Bane type of contract. 5 yr/200 millions.
Magic really don't have a choice with those 2. Hopefully they can get a cost control contract with Suggs and the rest of the team.
People are talking how the Magic should use their cap this off season to sign a big FA.
Let's say it's in the 30-40 million range. Low end $30(FA)+50(Paolo)+40(Franz)+13(cole)+WCJ(12)+Suggs(maybe $20)+Black(8)+Jett(6).
So if the Magic go for a big FA, we're looking at $179 millions for 8 players + the rest to fill the team. This would put the Magic in the top 5 salary which I think isn't going to happen.
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Post#35 » by CZ Eddie » Tue Jan 9, 2024 11:46 pm

He's going to be in the all star for sure.
Shoulda made a poll about whether he'll be a starter, a reserve or gets in because someone was injured.
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Post#36 » by thelead » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:04 am

CZ Eddie wrote:He's going to be in the all star for sure.
Shoulda made a poll about whether he'll be a starter, a reserve or gets in because someone was injured.

a starter? :lol:

https://basketnews.com/news-199766-nba-all-star-vote-lebron-giannis-doncic-curry-among-leaders.html

Paolo is 19 out of 20 in East voting... he is not getting voted in.
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Post#37 » by CZ Eddie » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:56 am

Wow, I guess I'm out of touch
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Post#38 » by Rainwater » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:07 am

If using the media and player vote as a gauge Paolo really has a good chance of making the All Star team.
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Post#39 » by Jiwol » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:24 am

Rainwater wrote:If using the media and player vote as a gauge Paolo really has a good chance of making the All Star team.


Agreed. He wound up surprisingly high!
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Post#40 » by drsd » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:43 pm

So the vote started with Banchero at 8th. And he continue to rise finally finishing 5th with the media.

Very interestingly, the players voted him 4th!

OMD link: Paolo Banchero's late push bodes well for his bid


In the end, Banchero tied with Brown for 4th place!!!!

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