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Post#1681 » by DingleJerry » Tue Jan 9, 2024 4:11 pm

raferfenix wrote:I'd be more worried about Dame if it weren't for how catastrophic Grief has been.

The divorce, taking the summer off, and history of slow starts also adds context.

Giannis and Dame can be a historically good tandem and both are locked up for years to come.

If we had traded for Dame earlier in the summer it wouldn't be this way, but that was the only way to get him. It's incomparably easier to find a reasonable coach and pick up some guys to play D.

So yeah Horst has work to do.


Yea I agree. At this point I wouldn't be worried about Dame's ability to play basketball. He just showed out all of December that he's basically the same as he's been and just last year he was as good as he's every been. He's never had attitude or chemistry problems before in spite of tons of turnover around him in Por. Acting like this is a disaster trade or that he's all of a sudden a bum is an overreaction to a few games.

That said, he is clearly unhappy right now so there is mental stuff to get over. There is the personal stuff but nba players go through that stuff quite a bit, they're always traveling, they and their wives are always cheating on each other, and presumably fighting about it, etc. Who knows what the story is there and I'm sure this is all new for him going to a new team away from the fam so much while also splitting up drama. But my guess is a player at his level would compartmentalize it pretty quick if he was happy with the basketball team, so to me I put this mostly on the coaching as to why he looks grumpy. Doubt he's gonna publicly make a fuss after all the stuff last summer but wouldn't surprise me if he's voiced his desire for a new coach to management and as all of us who've been i bad workplaces know, that kind of negativity festers out to everyone. I think they're best route of this is a new coach, now. Play out the year crappilly and with Dame being disgruntled and demanding another trade, his trade value gets killed next year. Basically don't fall to sunk cost fallacy on the coach, if you know he's in over his head just get out now and salvage it best you can with a vet coach of some kind.
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Post#1682 » by pifhluk23 » Tue Jan 9, 2024 4:24 pm

With Ja going down if I were Horst I would really be pushing to get Marcus Smart here. Something like Bobby + Pat + Por 2nd and one of the youngins if need be for Smart + one or two of their younger guys, one being a backup big.
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Post#1683 » by emunney » Tue Jan 9, 2024 4:31 pm

With Ja down for good now, I do think the Grizzlies should do a mild tear down/repositioning.
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Post#1684 » by PG Graveyard » Tue Jan 9, 2024 4:32 pm

soxperry wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:
soxperry wrote:
Are you asking if 33 year old Jrue has the same trade value as 26 year old OG?


I’m not a big OG guy so I would probably rather have Jrue if I’m thinking 2 year window which really everyone in the league should.


Thats not really relevant to the topic at hand, though, is it?


I’m not sure. What are we talking about?
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Post#1686 » by FrieAaron » Tue Jan 9, 2024 6:13 pm

With Jae coming back, maybe there's a shot we return to the glory days of being 20th in DRTG.
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Post#1687 » by pifhluk23 » Tue Jan 9, 2024 6:22 pm

emunney wrote:With Ja down for good now, I do think the Grizzlies should do a mild tear down/repositioning.


I want him so bad. Imagine a lineup when we need it of Giannis, Jae, Khris, Smart, Dame. That's pretty damn good.
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Post#1688 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:13 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:With Ja going down if I were Horst I would really be pushing to get Marcus Smart here. Something like Bobby + Pat + Por 2nd and one of the youngins if need be for Smart + one or two of their younger guys, one being a backup big.


Can Memphis also throw in Taylor Jenkins and his entire coaching staff?
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Post#1689 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:26 pm

KD asks for a trade again. You know him and Giannis are tight. Idk, I'm desperate and bored:

MKE Out: Brook, Khris, Portland 2nd, 2027 2nd
MKE In: Durant, Okogie

PHX Out: Durant, Nurkic, Josh Okogie
PHX In: Khris, Brook, GP2, Looney (waive Metu to create a roster spot), 2nd's

GS Out: GP2, Kevon Looney
GS In: Nurkic
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Post#1690 » by msiris » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:41 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:KD asks for a trade again. You know him and Giannis are tight. Idk, I'm desperate and bored:

MKE Out: Brook, Khris, Portland 2nd, 2027 2nd
MKE In: Durant, Okogie

PHX Out: Durant, Nurkic, Josh Okogie
PHX In: Khris, Brook, GP2, Looney (waive Metu to create a roster spot), 2nd's

GS Out: GP2, Kevon Looney
GS In: Nurkic
Who would say no. Maybe the suns. A clear up grade over Mids.
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Post#1691 » by msiris » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:43 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:KD asks for a trade again. You know him and Giannis are tight. Idk, I'm desperate and bored:

MKE Out: Brook, Khris, Portland 2nd, 2027 2nd
MKE In: Durant, Okogie

PHX Out: Durant, Nurkic, Josh Okogie
PHX In: Khris, Brook, GP2, Looney (waive Metu to create a roster spot), 2nd's

GS Out: GP2, Kevon Looney
GS In: Nurkic
Who would say no. Maybe the suns. A clear up grade over Mids. Then all you need is D guysaround the big three.
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Post#1692 » by RogerMurdock » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:46 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:
emunney wrote:With Ja down for good now, I do think the Grizzlies should do a mild tear down/repositioning.


I want him so bad. Imagine a lineup when we need it of Giannis, Jae, Khris, Smart, Dame. That's pretty damn good.


Yes, an All-Star team WOULD be good.
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Post#1693 » by Ryan5UW » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:49 pm

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pifhluk23 wrote:
emunney wrote:With Ja down for good now, I do think the Grizzlies should do a mild tear down/repositioning.


I want him so bad. Imagine a lineup when we need it of Giannis, Jae, Khris, Smart, Dame. That's pretty damn good.


Yes, an All-Star team WOULD be good.


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Post#1694 » by DingleJerry » Tue Jan 9, 2024 7:52 pm

msiris wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:KD asks for a trade again. You know him and Giannis are tight. Idk, I'm desperate and bored:

MKE Out: Brook, Khris, Portland 2nd, 2027 2nd
MKE In: Durant, Okogie

PHX Out: Durant, Nurkic, Josh Okogie
PHX In: Khris, Brook, GP2, Looney (waive Metu to create a roster spot), 2nd's

GS Out: GP2, Kevon Looney
GS In: Nurkic
Who would say no. Maybe the suns. A clear up grade over Mids. Then all you need is D guysaround the big three.


Creative and well done. Actually does make a lot of sense. Though I do think PHX says No just based on it being Durant. Maybe if there was a way to get them 1-2 FRPs it would be enough to tip it to a yes. Though of course we all realize something like this is just too big to happen.
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Post#1695 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Jan 9, 2024 9:09 pm

Wait so the sun's get older, add more salary long term, lose a top 25 player and dont get any firsts? Am I missing something? Do they even save any tax this year?
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Post#1696 » by sogood » Tue Jan 9, 2024 9:18 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
msiris wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:KD asks for a trade again. You know him and Giannis are tight. Idk, I'm desperate and bored:

MKE Out: Brook, Khris, Portland 2nd, 2027 2nd
MKE In: Durant, Okogie

PHX Out: Durant, Nurkic, Josh Okogie
PHX In: Khris, Brook, GP2, Looney (waive Metu to create a roster spot), 2nd's

GS Out: GP2, Kevon Looney
GS In: Nurkic
Who would say no. Maybe the suns. A clear up grade over Mids. Then all you need is D guysaround the big three.


Creative and well done. Actually does make a lot of sense. Though I do think PHX says No just based on it being Durant. Maybe if there was a way to get them 1-2 FRPs it would be enough to tip it to a yes. Though of course we all realize something like this is just too big to happen.


Lmao doesn’t make sense for anyone but Milwaukee.

This is a laughable offer.
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Post#1697 » by DingleJerry » Tue Jan 9, 2024 9:27 pm

sogood wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
msiris wrote:Who would say no. Maybe the suns. A clear up grade over Mids. Then all you need is D guysaround the big three.


Creative and well done. Actually does make a lot of sense. Though I do think PHX says No just based on it being Durant. Maybe if there was a way to get them 1-2 FRPs it would be enough to tip it to a yes. Though of course we all realize something like this is just too big to happen.


Lmao doesn’t make sense for anyone but Milwaukee.

This is a laughable offer.


I mean, I said PHX would say no because KD is just too good. But it does make sense for them in the sense that they're not winning right now, you break KD down to a bunch of smaller contracts and some D focused players in Brook, GP2, Looney to be role players around their other shooters. But like I said you'd have to let them recoup some of their picks which it doesn't do. Get them some 1sts and it gets in the theoretical ballpark of fair on the internet, though still KD is just too good. They can play it out this year then make new trades next summer to try to make things fit better.

I think GSW makes sense and says yes to it. Jurkic is better than those guys and gives them solid D focused starting big.
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Post#1698 » by DutchManDanFan » Tue Jan 9, 2024 9:28 pm

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Post#1699 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jan 9, 2024 9:28 pm

lol, reading the first sentence very carefully should tell you how much thought I put into it. But then again, everyone thought Jrue and a 1st round pick was a “laughable offer” for Dame and, well….

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