Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread

ItsDanger · Post #801 » by **ItsDanger** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:25 pm

Haliburton strain is reportedly grade 1. Siakam trade rumors to Pacers still alive.

artsncrafts · Post #802 » by **artsncrafts** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:25 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:I would think Rui, Reaves and a pick in a three way is pretty solid especially if you can also pry Griffin. I feel each of those guys will increase their value and you can flip GTJ for a backup big. Suddenly this team has a great bench and has a lot of depth.

Reaves increase his value? Lakers fans already say he is the next MJ.

ItsDanger wrote:Haliburton strain is reportedly grade 1. Siakam trade rumors to Pacers still alive.

Tha Cynic · Post #803 » by **Tha Cynic** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:25 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
720 wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Yeah I'm no cap expert so I don't know the exact difference in dollars that a team with bird rights vs FA will end up being.

I’m pretty sure (could be wrong) that a team like the sixers who have a lot of cap space coming up can offer him a max contract next offseason (4 years 196 million). Our advantage is that we can offer him 5 years instead of 4, which we haven’t shown to be willing to do (or else he would have signed it already).

Blake Murphy was kind of insinuating that the Raptors didn't want to offer Pascal the full max. So who knows.

That’s seems likely or they would have re-signed him by now. So, that means he can go into free agency with other teams who can match the offers the Raptors are willing to give him.

This is why you need to trade him.

JB7 · Post #804 » by **JB7** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:26 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:I don't know how much faith to put into Samson's 'scoop', but if true I find it hilarious that Dejounte immediately decided to sign an extension after hearing he might get traded here.

Yes, maybe Chris Haynes didn't hear about the latest scoop from Samson. Can't imagine Samson would throw that out there, unless he heard it from a good source.

WuTang_CMB · Post #805 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:26 pm

Need a 3 and D wing with upside

Yeezus_ · Post #806 » by **Yeezus_** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:27 pm

Reaves would fit like a glove on this team but I don't think it's enough value for Siakam. I also don't think he's a good fit with the Lakers. If anything Dejounte is a better fit for them.

mademan · Post #807 » by **mademan** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:28 pm

You can do worse than Reaves/Rui/JHS/1st (tho i dont think JHS ever becomes anything). Probably would have to send them schroeder back if theyre trading a guard, but i dont mind it. Think Reaves would be fine sharing ball handling duties with Scottie and IQ

JB7 · Post #808 » by **JB7** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:29 pm

refshateRaps wrote:
JB7 wrote:
refshateRaps wrote:Not sayin ATL would ever do this.

But lets be honest Atlanta sucks and doesn't look to have much hope to contend in the coming years, we need a top young scoring guard to pair with Scottie and we have a major trade chip in Pascal

Pascal, GTJ, +3 firsts For Trae and Matthews

For Toronto this makes a ton of sense and we are instantly completive over the next 5 years, so picks are not needed. Would ATL be willing to part or do they see a path to build around Trae? IDK but I bet he demands a trade at some point and I find the fit perfect for the direction we are headed.

Now that the Raps have IQ, why would they even be interested in Trae?

Because we might want to contend for a title again.

How would the Raps contend with a backcourt of IQ & Trae? Offensively, they would probably be a scoring machine, but they would also be as bad as the Hawks are defensively, which then gets the team no where.

Tha Cynic · Post #809 » by **Tha Cynic** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:31 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Need a 3 and D wing with upside

Reaves and Rui are older than I thought lol.

We’ve been spinning the wheels with the same teams. I’m wondering where this player is going to come from. OKC for Dort and Wallace is interesting but Presti seems to like hoarding young players.

WuTang_CMB · Post #810 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:32 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Need a 3 and D wing with upside

Reaves and Rui are older than I thought lol.

We’ve been spinning the wheels with the same teams. I’m wondering where this player is going to come from. OKC for Dort and Wallace is interesting but Presti seems to like hoarding young players.

Okc is off the table imo. Presti can just run out this season as he should team is good.

artsncrafts · Post #811 » by **artsncrafts** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:35 pm

JB7 wrote:
refshateRaps wrote:
JB7 wrote:
Now that the Raps have IQ, why would they even be interested in Trae?

Because we might want to contend for a title again.

How would the Raps contend with a backcourt of IQ & Trae? Offensively, they would probably be a scoring machine, but they would also be as bad as the Hawks are defensively, which then gets the team no where.

Not that I am saying to trade for Trae, but the Raptors already have awful defense. I blame this a lot on Darko though. Since the trade Raps have a 119 defensive rating. (Knicks have best at 103 with OG)

billy_hoyle · Post #812 » by **billy_hoyle** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:36 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:I would think Rui, Reaves and a pick in a three way is pretty solid especially if you can also pry Griffin. I feel each of those guys will increase their value and you can flip GTJ for a backup big. Suddenly this team has a great bench and has a lot of depth.

What does that line-up look like?

RJ at the 3?

IQ
Reaves
RJ
Scottie
Yak

Dennis
GTJ
Rui
Boucher
?

Or does Rui start and Reaves come off the bench? Hence, making GTJ redundant?

I'd prefer the Indy pieces (or Heat if they want to include Jaime), but this is better than the Kings package.

ATL can make a good offer too, but doubt they will. The Lakers I could see trying to make a splash.

bobbyp3588 · Post #813 » by **bobbyp3588** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:37 pm

refshateRaps wrote:
JB7 wrote:
refshateRaps wrote:Not sayin ATL would ever do this.

But lets be honest Atlanta sucks and doesn't look to have much hope to contend in the coming years, we need a top young scoring guard to pair with Scottie and we have a major trade chip in Pascal

Pascal, GTJ, +3 firsts For Trae and Matthews

For Toronto this makes a ton of sense and we are instantly completive over the next 5 years, so picks are not needed. Would ATL be willing to part or do they see a path to build around Trae? IDK but I bet he demands a trade at some point and I find the fit perfect for the direction we are headed.

Now that the Raps have IQ, why would they even be interested in Trae?

Because we might want to contend for a title again.

You’re obviously pretty high on Trae, so no offence, but he’s kind of not all that. I wouldn’t want him on my team at all. He’s just not that good. Definitely won’t win anything unless he has 2 real stars beside him.

Raps in 4 · Post #814 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:42 pm

mademan wrote:You can do worse than Reaves/Rui/JHS/1st (tho i dont think JHS ever becomes anything). Probably would have to send them schroeder back if theyre trading a guard, but i dont mind it. Think Reaves would be fine sharing ball handling duties with Scottie and IQ

None of them are ever going to become anything. Reaves and Rui have already peaked as mid-tier role players (they're both 25 already). JHS is extremely uninteresting as a prospect.

Hero_Panda · Post #815 » by **Hero_Panda** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:43 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Need a 3 and D wing with upside

I hear this OG Anunoby fellow is a FA this summer...

ATLTimekeeper · Post #816 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:47 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:Reaves would fit like a glove on this team but I don't think it's enough value for Siakam. I also don't think he's a good fit with the Lakers. If anything Dejounte is a better fit for them.

Why are people even talking about Reaves? Because we're playing the Lakers?

ash_k · Post #817 » by **ash_k** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:48 pm

Hero_Panda wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Need a 3 and D wing with upside

I hear this OG Anunoby fellow is a FA this summer...

And I wouldn't rule that out. CAA or not

Psubs · Post #818 » by **Psubs** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:52 pm

Hero_Panda wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Need a 3 and D wing with upside

I hear this OG Anunoby fellow is a FA this summer...

Package Schroder, Boucher and McDaniels....

mademan · Post #819 » by **mademan** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 5:53 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
mademan wrote:You can do worse than Reaves/Rui/JHS/1st (tho i dont think JHS ever becomes anything). Probably would have to send them schroeder back if theyre trading a guard, but i dont mind it. Think Reaves would be fine sharing ball handling duties with Scottie and IQ

None of them are ever going to become anything. Reaves and Rui have already peaked as mid-tier role players (they're both 25 already). JHS is extremely uninteresting as a prospect.

Reaves is a higher end role player and above aveage starter and Rui is meh. A 1st, a swap and JHS, and im not sure you get more.

TBH, i dont even think LA is a good fit with Siakam, but some of you got your heads in he sky. Thats a very decent deal, which might be workable in a 3 way where Siakam goes to ATL and Dejounte goes to LA

Tha Cynic · Post #820 » by **Tha Cynic** » Tue Jan 9, 2024 6:03 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:I would think Rui, Reaves and a pick in a three way is pretty solid especially if you can also pry Griffin. I feel each of those guys will increase their value and you can flip GTJ for a backup big. Suddenly this team has a great bench and has a lot of depth.

What does that line-up look like?

RJ at the 3?

IQ
Reaves
RJ
Scottie
Yak

Dennis
GTJ
Rui
Boucher
?

Or does Rui start and Reaves come off the bench? Hence, making GTJ redundant?

I'd prefer the Indy pieces (or Heat if they want to include Jaime), but this is better than the Kings package.

ATL can make a good offer too, but doubt they will. The Lakers I could see trying to make a splash.

Poeltl
Barnes
Barrett
GTJ (hope you can retain him for cheap)
Quickley

Reaves
Hachimura
Boucher
Schroder (most likely traded)

We lose serious go to scoring though which is why the Indiana package or even Atlanta is way better.