Jake Peavy

Post #41 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:12 pm

mets87 wrote:i never said the yanks should prefer peavy to santana. where the hell did i say that? quote exactly where i said that. reading skills are vital to success in real life. you'll learn that in like, 6th grade.

if you can get santana, hell yes go for him. certainly he's better than peavy. but if you can't get him and peavy's available...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

I didn't misquote you or misunderstand you, and watch yourself because your **** is not amusing around here.

I simply said I will not put Hughes in a deal for Peavy. That has nothing to do with whether or not we can get Santana. If we can get Santana, I can be convinced to deal Hughes. If not, then Hughes remains in pinstripes. I never put words in your mouth, I was just stating my opinion on what type of deal Hughes should be moved in.

For Santana, yes. For Peavy, no.

34Celtic · Post #42 » by **34Celtic** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:02 pm

nykgeneralmanager wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I didn't misquote you or misunderstand you, and watch yourself because your **** is not amusing around here.

I disagree

TKF · Post #43 » by **TKF** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:49 pm

34Celtic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I disagree

what do you dissagree with? I read his post, he didn't misquote you at all, he simply stated what it would take for him to want to part with Hughes...

mets87 · Post #44 » by **mets87** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:46 pm

i wasn't replying to nykgeneralmanager............................

Post #45 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:51 am

mets87 wrote:i wasn't replying to nykgeneralmanager............................

Well, my fault then. I quoted your post and then the next post in the thread was yours, so it seemed that way.

TKF · Post #46 » by **TKF** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:25 am

mets87 wrote:i wasn't replying to nykgeneralmanager............................

my bad....

34Celtic · Post #47 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:10 am

I'm saying Mets87 is enjoyable, I get a lot of laughs coming on here and reading his statements....the outlandish ones and the sane ones.

Post #48 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:36 am

34Celtic wrote:I'm saying Mets87 is enjoyable, I get a lot of laughs coming on here and reading his statements....the outlandish ones and the sane ones.

I'm all for that stuff, I've only warned 1 or 2 people because of comments on this forum. However, there is a difference between outlandish statements and personal attacks. I don't mind letting one of those slide, but not the other.

Lets just get back on topic guys, thanks.

#1knickfan · Post #49 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:45 am

mets87 wrote:i never said the yanks should prefer peavy to santana. where the hell did i say that? quote exactly where i said that. reading skills are vital to success in real life. you'll learn that in like, 6th grade.

if you can get santana, hell yes go for him. certainly he's better than peavy. but if you can't get him and peavy's available...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

Your continued response proves that. I have said nothing different than many of the other posters on this board but you continue to have your panties in a bunch. Santana is the guy the Yankees should target because we know what he can do in the AL. Peavy is a good pitcher but how he'd handle pitching in the AL and in NY is a major X-factor. I do not know how he'd handle it. I know full well that Santana can handle it. Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy have shown they can handle it in their limited time. For all Peavy's ability he is not a risk myself and other Yankee fans would be willing to give up one of those big 3 take a chance on.

Post #50 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:48 am

Kennedy is a no brainer to move in a trade for guys like Peavy, Santana, or Cabrera. Problem is these teams are demanding Hughes or Joba as the centerpiece, which simply will not happen.

#1knickfan · Post #51 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:21 pm

nykgeneralmanager wrote:Kennedy is a no brainer to move in a trade for guys like Peavy, Santana, or Cabrera. Problem is these teams are demanding Hughes or Joba as the centerpiece, which simply will not happen.

Call me crazy but I would kinda prefer to keep Kennedy. In his limited time here he seemed to have the mental makeup to survive in NYs pressure enviornment. Hughes gave me some doubts at first.

Post #52 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:01 pm

#1knickfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Call me crazy but I would kinda prefer to keep Kennedy. In his limited time here he seemed to have the mental makeup to survive in NYs pressure enviornment. Hughes gave me some doubts at first.

With the head on Hughes' shoulders, he is the last person on this planet that I'd be concerned about. He has twice the ability that Kennedy has.

Don't fall for Cashman's ploy when he groups Kennedy with our 2 big guns, because he is not even close to their level in terms of potential. He is trying to increase his value so he can trade him, while keeping Joba and Hughes.

Pharmcat · Post #53 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:08 pm

nykgeneralmanager wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

With the head on Hughes' shoulders, he is the last person on this planet that I'd be concerned about. He has twice the ability that Kennedy has.

Don't fall for Cashman's ploy when he groups Kennedy with our 2 big guns, because he is not even close to their level in terms of potential. He is trying to increase his value so he can trade him, while keeping Joba and Hughes.

yea but keeping kennedy isnt a bad thing at all.....cuz he projects as a #3....so with Phil, Joba, Wang, he falls in perfectly at that #4 spot in the future

although something tells me he gets traded this offseason

Post #54 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:26 pm

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

yea but keeping kennedy isnt a bad thing at all.....cuz he projects as a #3....so with Phil, Joba, Wang, he falls in perfectly at that #4 spot in the future

although something tells me he gets traded this offseason

I'm definitely all for keeping Kennedy, I want to see what these 3 guys can accomplish together in their careers. However, if the Marlins would accept a deal with Kennedy as the centerpiece, we have to pull the trigger.

Pharmcat · Post #55 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:44 pm

nykgeneralmanager wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I'm definitely all for keeping Kennedy, I want to see what these 3 guys can accomplish together in their careers. However, if the Marlins would accept a deal with Kennedy as the centerpiece, we have to pull the trigger.

yea no doubt id trade kennedy too for that package....hopefully some gm buys cashmans overvaluing of Ian and we can take advantage

mets87 · Post #56 » by **mets87** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm

#1knickfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Your continued response proves that. I have said nothing different than many of the other posters on this board but you continue to have your panties in a bunch. Santana is the guy the Yankees should target because we know what he can do in the AL. Peavy is a good pitcher but how he'd handle pitching in the AL and in NY is a major X-factor. I do not know how he'd handle it. I know full well that Santana can handle it. Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy have shown they can handle it in their limited time. For all Peavy's ability he is not a risk myself and other Yankee fans would be willing to give up one of those big 3 take a chance on.

you're willing to risk santana blowing out his elbow (which is a definite possibility--look at his mechanics) but not peavy, whose mechanics are decidedly better and who is younger. yes, i'd take santana first, but if he is not available, go for peavy. that was my point in this thread, and i apologize to you and everyone else if i didn't make that clear. and what proof do you have that santana would thrive in NYC any better than peavy?

Post #57 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:46 pm

mets87 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you're willing to risk santana blowing out his elbow (which is a definite possibility--look at his mechanics) but not peavy, whose mechanics are decidedly better and who is younger. yes, i'd take santana first, but if he is not available, go for peavy. that was my point in this thread, and i apologize to you and everyone else if i didn't make that clear. and what proof do you have that santana would thrive in NYC any better than peavy?

I agree, thats why I don't buy into all of that or base trades off of that. Sure, there are guys who simply won't succeed under the pressure here, but it isn't anything that you can figure out before you acquire a player. I have no reason to believe Peavy or Santana would fail here, the only proof of it would be is if we trade for them and they suck.

Post #58 » by **moocow007** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:54 am

Jitpal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Cashman didn't say he was untouchable he just said that there were different levels of untouchables and that some were more untouchable than others. I would not trade him for Miguel Cabrera or Johan Santana but that's just me. I would deal him in a package that got us Johan Santana and more though. -Jitpal

I wouldn't either.