Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread

[Rainwater]

Without a future pick, why does Portland do this?

Great deal for Portland. That is why they probably would not.

Portland thinks Simons is a star. All indications are he is basically "just a guy" with a license to shoot whenever he wants.

Good for Orlando. Frankly, I would rather see what Orlando has with Houstan and Howard than trade for Simons.

Put an "L" on his forehead, he is a loser, JMO.

25.5 pts per game, 39% on 9 3pt attempts a game, isn't "just a guy" shooting.
His assist numbers would lead our team as well.

Him next to Suggs would really change this team. As well as PB and Franz pass, it would be a true pick your poison.
It would take at least 1 FRP.
They WILL need to make a decision between him and Sharpe.

I love Simons here but the numbers you see in Portland will not occur in Orlando. Simons basically gets to do what he wants in Portland, this will not occur in Orlando. His assist and points will go down but I I believe his 3 point attempts will remain the same.

[JBSouthpaw]

Great deal for Portland. That is why they probably would not.

Portland thinks Simons is a star. All indications are he is basically "just a guy" with a license to shoot whenever he wants.

Good for Orlando. Frankly, I would rather see what Orlando has with Houstan and Howard than trade for Simons.

Put an "L" on his forehead, he is a loser, JMO.

25.5 pts per game, 39% on 9 3pt attempts a game, isn't "just a guy" shooting.
His assist numbers would lead our team as well.

Him next to Suggs would really change this team. As well as PB and Franz pass, it would be a true pick your poison.
It would take at least 1 FRP.
They WILL need to make a decision between him and Sharpe.

I love Simons here but the numbers you see in Portland will not occur in Orlando. Simons basically gets to do what he wants in Portland, this will not occur in Orlando. His assist and points will go down but I I believe his 3 point attempts will remain the same.

I agree, lower usage. But, like you said, 3 pt % would be the key.
IF Suggs keeps shooting like he has, add in Simons' 3pt shooting, it would free up Franz and PB even more. Both of them would have simple kick-outs when double teamed. Franz would feast of drives.

[AaronB]

Without a future pick, why does Portland do this?

Great deal for Portland. That is why they probably would not.

Portland thinks Simons is a star. All indications are he is basically "just a guy" with a license to shoot whenever he wants.

Good for Orlando. Frankly, I would rather see what Orlando has with Houstan and Howard than trade for Simons.

Put an "L" on his forehead, he is a loser, JMO.

I am absolutely not a Simons fan, but currently Simons
Is 25 ppg, 3 rpg and 5 apg, .389 on 9 3p per game and 92% ft.

Those shots are frequently off the dribble.

I don’t like him either but he would easily, easily be the best guard on your team and his perimeter offense would open the floor for Banchero and Wagner in a way none of your other guards can.

You don’t like him. I happen to agree. But that does not mean he would not be a big upgrade.

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

[JRoy]

Great deal for Portland. That is why they probably would not.

Portland thinks Simons is a star. All indications are he is basically "just a guy" with a license to shoot whenever he wants.

Good for Orlando. Frankly, I would rather see what Orlando has with Houstan and Howard than trade for Simons.

Put an "L" on his forehead, he is a loser, JMO.

I am absolutely not a Simons fan, but currently Simons
Is 25 ppg, 3 rpg and 5 apg, .389 on 9 3p per game and 92% ft.

Those shots are frequently off the dribble.

I don’t like him either but he would easily, easily be the best guard on your team and his perimeter offense would open the floor for Banchero and Wagner in a way none of your other guards can.

You don’t like him. I happen to agree. But that does not mean he would not be a big upgrade.

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

Lol.

Suggs is a better defensive player than Simons. By a mile.

Does he shoot those 3s off the dribble, or is he spoon fed open shots by better players.

[AaronB]

I am absolutely not a Simons fan, but currently Simons
Is 25 ppg, 3 rpg and 5 apg, .389 on 9 3p per game and 92% ft.

Those shots are frequently off the dribble.

I don’t like him either but he would easily, easily be the best guard on your team and his perimeter offense would open the floor for Banchero and Wagner in a way none of your other guards can.

You don’t like him. I happen to agree. But that does not mean he would not be a big upgrade.

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

Lol.

Suggs is a better defensive player than Simons. By a mile.

Does he shoot those 3s off the dribble, or is he spoon fed open shots by better players.

Houstan gets spoon fed 3s, not so much Suggs.

Suggs is a stud and there are not any 2 -layers on the Blazers I would trade him for. Not Simons, Scoot not Sharpe not any combination of the 2.

Only health will hold him back.

[JRoy]

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

Lol.

Suggs is a better defensive player than Simons. By a mile.

Does he shoot those 3s off the dribble, or is he spoon fed open shots by better players.

Houstan gets spoon fed 3s, not so much Suggs.

Suggs is a stud and there are not any 2 -layers on the Blazers I would trade him for. Not Simons, Scoot not Sharpe not any combination of the 2.

Only health will hold him back.

Looks like a solid roleplayer.

[Skybox]

Great deal for Portland. That is why they probably would not.

Portland thinks Simons is a star. All indications are he is basically "just a guy" with a license to shoot whenever he wants.

Good for Orlando. Frankly, I would rather see what Orlando has with Houstan and Howard than trade for Simons.

Put an "L" on his forehead, he is a loser, JMO.

I am absolutely not a Simons fan, but currently Simons
Is 25 ppg, 3 rpg and 5 apg, .389 on 9 3p per game and 92% ft.

Those shots are frequently off the dribble.

I don’t like him either but he would easily, easily be the best guard on your team and his perimeter offense would open the floor for Banchero and Wagner in a way none of your other guards can.

You don’t like him. I happen to agree. But that does not mean he would not be a big upgrade.

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

Nobody is suggesting that we trade Suggs for Simons or that Simons is a better overall player....but, please pump the brakes on the shooting comparison until Suggs does it for years, not weeks.

[AaronB]

I am absolutely not a Simons fan, but currently Simons
Is 25 ppg, 3 rpg and 5 apg, .389 on 9 3p per game and 92% ft.

Those shots are frequently off the dribble.

I don’t like him either but he would easily, easily be the best guard on your team and his perimeter offense would open the floor for Banchero and Wagner in a way none of your other guards can.

You don’t like him. I happen to agree. But that does not mean he would not be a big upgrade.

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

Nobody is suggesting that we trade Suggs for Simons or that Simons is a better overall player....but, please pump the brakes on the shooting comparison until Suggs does it for years, not weeks.

I will make a deal with you:

I will put a hold on Siggs shooting if you put a hold on what has widely been coined as the "Assinine Magic Trade of the Day".

[Skybox]

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

Nobody is suggesting that we trade Suggs for Simons or that Simons is a better overall player....but, please pump the brakes on the shooting comparison until Suggs does it for years, not weeks.

I will make a deal with you:

I will put a hold on Siggs shooting if you put a hold on what has widely been coined as the "Assinine Magic Trade of the Day".

you spelled asinine wrong...not to mention Suggs.

I love Suggs - so don't get the wrong idea...you started the asinine debate re: two players who would be perfect together.

[AaronB]

Nobody is suggesting that we trade Suggs for Simons or that Simons is a better overall player....but, please pump the brakes on the shooting comparison until Suggs does it for years, not weeks.

I will make a deal with you:

I will put a hold on Siggs shooting if you put a hold on what has widely been coined as the "Assinine Magic Trade of the Day".

you spelled asinine wrong...not to mention Suggs.

I love Suggs - so don't get the wrong idea...you started the asinine debate re: two players who would be perfect together.

Phone keyboards suck.

I take it to mean that your response means you will keep posting the "Asinine Magic Trade of the Day" where the next is even worse than the last?

It is a free country.

The point being however is that people in glass houses ...

[Skybox]

I will make a deal with you:

I will put a hold on Siggs shooting if you put a hold on what has widely been coined as the "Assinine Magic Trade of the Day".

you spelled asinine wrong...not to mention Suggs.

I love Suggs - so don't get the wrong idea...you started the asinine debate re: two players who would be perfect together.

Phone keyboards suck.

I take it to mean that your response means you will keep posting the "Asinine Magic Trade of the Day" where the next is even worse than the last?

It is a free country.

The point being however is that people in glass houses ...

Your point is not clear or anything that I'm interested in hearing about. Keep up the good work.

[Residual-Heat]

I am absolutely not a Simons fan, but currently Simons
Is 25 ppg, 3 rpg and 5 apg, .389 on 9 3p per game and 92% ft.

Those shots are frequently off the dribble.

I don’t like him either but he would easily, easily be the best guard on your team and his perimeter offense would open the floor for Banchero and Wagner in a way none of your other guards can.

You don’t like him. I happen to agree. But that does not mean he would not be a big upgrade.

Simons would not be the best guard on the Magic. Suggs is a much better player and it is not close. Suggs shoots the 3 as well as Simons (currently shooting 40%)

Lol.

Suggs is a better defensive player than Simons. By a mile.

Does he shoot those 3s off the dribble, or is he spoon fed open shots by better players.

Mostly catch and shoot, but recently he has been taking more off the dribble and off of handoffs and making them. i expect to see a lot more of that as he continues to prove he can shoot at a high level.

[Rainwater]

I will make a deal with you:

I will put a hold on Siggs shooting if you put a hold on what has widely been coined as the "Assinine Magic Trade of the Day".

you spelled asinine wrong...not to mention Suggs.

I love Suggs - so don't get the wrong idea...you started the asinine debate re: two players who would be perfect together.

Phone keyboards suck.

I take it to mean that your response means you will keep posting the "Asinine Magic Trade of the Day" where the next is even worse than the last?

It is a free country.

The point being however is that people in glass houses ...

I just don understand the complaint, this is a trade thread. This is where you post trade ideas regardless how crazy they are.

[cedric76]

If Memphis start selling, do we try to make a move on smart?

Smart, suggs, Franz, PB, Wcj

A smart+ suggs backcourt will Scare more than one team

He is a nice vet with a decent contact

[CarraT]

If Memphis start selling, do we try to make a move on smart?

Smart, suggs, Franz, PB, Wcj

A smart+ suggs backcourt will Scare more than one team

He is a nice vet with a decent contact

Smart? Dont we have enough guards that cant shoot? Dont want him here.

[cedric76]

If Memphis start selling, do we try to make a move on smart?

Smart, suggs, Franz, PB, Wcj

A smart+ suggs backcourt will Scare more than one team

He is a nice vet with a decent contact

Smart? Dont we have enough guards that cant shoot? Dont want him here.

Might not be the ideal fit but he ticks many boxes. 33% from 3 isn't too shabby but he takes them

[CarraT]

If Memphis start selling, do we try to make a move on smart?

Smart, suggs, Franz, PB, Wcj

A smart+ suggs backcourt will Scare more than one team

He is a nice vet with a decent contact

Smart? Dont we have enough guards that cant shoot? Dont want him here.

Might not be the ideal fit but he ticks many boxes. 33% from 3 isn't too shabby but he takes them

31% this year, 32% career. Not what we need. He is a better Fultz, but we don´t need a better Fultz, we need a different type of player, someone that fits to our core. Pass.

[Skybox]

Smart? Dont we have enough guards that cant shoot? Dont want him here.

Might not be the ideal fit but he ticks many boxes. 33% from 3 isn't too shabby but he takes them

31% this year, 32% career. Not what we need. He is a better Fultz, but we don´t need a better Fultz, we need a different type of player, someone that fits to our core. Pass.

Smart's a good player...but what would be the net impact on this roster? If we're going to go all-defense, no shooting...we can return to the Black/Suggs experiment (the fact that Suggs is looking like a viable shooter is great news - but we should be looking to compound that with another shooter not compromising Suggs' recent growth).

Honestly, Smart's value has dropped considerably if, days after Ja goes down for the season, they might consider moving the guy they paid quite a bit for as his placeholder...definitely a solid role player but not the role we need filled. I'd rather give Black any minutes that Smart might have gotten in ORL...and I don't think Black is ideal for the starting lineup (yet?)

[tiderulz]

If Memphis start selling, do we try to make a move on smart?

Smart, suggs, Franz, PB, Wcj

A smart+ suggs backcourt will Scare more than one team

He is a nice vet with a decent contact

Smart? Dont we have enough guards that cant shoot? Dont want him here.

Might not be the ideal fit but he ticks many boxes. 33% from 3 isn't too shabby but he takes them

cmon. 33% is bad. not horribly bad but bad. and he is a willing passer, but not a great passer and not a playmaker.

[Skybox]

Everybody gets what they want?

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray & AJ Griffin to ORL
ATL gets: Lauri Markannen
Why: Griffin is basically out of the rotation for Bey and Lauri is a clear upgrade in fit & talent for ATL

UTA sends: Lauri Markannen to ATL, Kelly Olynyk & Kris Dunn to ORL
UTA gets: Jonathan Isaac, Anthony Black, Wendell Carter, ORL 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp (via ORL)
Why: UTA adds two solid young pieces that complement their other young pieces, cashes out Lauri to tank short-term, adds 2 frps. Olynyk and Dunn are playing well but are expiring - so they send them out for assets and play younger guys. George/Black/Agbaji is a promising young backcourt trio. Carter is versatile and heady to play with and around Kessler & Hendricks. Other vets ready to move.
Isaac's next year is non-guaranteed. If he gets back on the court, he's extremely impactful and UTA wins the deal...if not, cap space.

ORL sends: Jonathan Isaac, Anthony Black, Wendell Carter, 24 frp (top 5), DEN 25 frp to UTA
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin, Kelly Olynyk, & Kris Dunn
Why: ORL moves on from Isaac's unreliable health issues, reluctantly moves Black for more offense and WCJ to stick with Goga. They add two high BBIQ expiring vets in Olynyk and Dunn that contribute immediately and push this year's team ceiling and maybe even stick with new vet deals (or not?). ORL might even, at this point, buyout Fultz or trade him for srps, etc as Dunn is a very capable 3rd

Goga/M. Wagner
Paolo/Olynyk
Franz/Ingles/Houstan
Suggs/Griffin/Jett
Murray/Cole/Dunn

We get very deep with shooting and add playmaking and add shooting to our starting lineup without sacrificing defense at all. Olynyk is a heady vet with surprising passing...the second/third unit has a lot of variability. My only concern is a lack of depth with defensive-minded bigs after Goga - but that could be addressed by moving Fultz or Harris with srps for a simple physical big in the genre of Khem Birch...or maybe even pull the scariest monster in the G League up, just to fill that limited (but important for playoffs) role. Olynyk and Mo are both very interesting, clever offensive players and could actually work well together. Both have defensive questions, but are not inept. This is a serious team to make noise in the playoffs THIS year...and then to be tinkered with in the summer with Olynyk, Dunn, Fultz, Harris, Chuma expiring. Re-sign Goga or even aim higher in a trade or FA as ORL still has all of their own picks beyond '24.