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[AirP.]

I don't see any upside for a player who is as mature as Wemby, already understands body maintenace in his teens to have him play on a historically bad NBA team, it makes no sense other then you just wasted a possible HOFers rookie year with a draft class that isn't supposed to be all that good.

Once again, public opinion. Im sure the Spurs can look at the players in this draft and can find a couple guys with their (currently) two lottery picks that will bolster Wembys chances at future success, not rookie year success.

Shoot, if the Spurs were my team and they drafted Sarr and Reed, Id pass the **** out from happiness.

And what if they miss on their draft picks or get a bad pick? It just blows my mind so many people in this sub of a team that doesn't tank have 0 issues throwing seasons of high level to great players out the window.

Great minds can miss on drafting players, right? I mean how nice would Maxey look in Miami right now? Miami said no and drafted a backup for Bam. It's not just a make or miss league, it's also a drafting hit and miss league.

[DayofMourning]

I don't see any upside for a player who is as mature as Wemby, already understands body maintenace in his teens to have him play on a historically bad NBA team, it makes no sense other then you just wasted a possible HOFers rookie year with a draft class that isn't supposed to be all that good.

Once again, public opinion. Im sure the Spurs can look at the players in this draft and can find a couple guys with their (currently) two lottery picks that will bolster Wembys chances at future success, not rookie year success.

Shoot, if the Spurs were my team and they drafted Sarr and Reed, Id pass the **** out from happiness.

And what if they miss on their draft picks or get a bad pick? It just blows my mind so many people in this sub of a team that doesn't tank have 0 issues throwing seasons of high level to great players out the window.

Great minds can miss on drafting players, right? I mean how nice would Maxey look in Miami right now? Miami said no and drafted a backup for Bam. It's not just a make or miss league, it's also a drafting hit and miss league.

Sounds like you are looking for guarantees, AirP. Theres a lot of bball history that shows nothing ever will be. You do the best you can.

Dont be the Anthony Davis Pelicans and try to surround your star with proven guys, max out your cap, deplete all your pick assets and then watch Wemby go play for the Lakers. Gross.

[AirP.]

Once again, public opinion. Im sure the Spurs can look at the players in this draft and can find a couple guys with their (currently) two lottery picks that will bolster Wembys chances at future success, not rookie year success.

Shoot, if the Spurs were my team and they drafted Sarr and Reed, Id pass the **** out from happiness.

And what if they miss on their draft picks or get a bad pick? It just blows my mind so many people in this sub of a team that doesn't tank have 0 issues throwing seasons of high level to great players out the window.

Great minds can miss on drafting players, right? I mean how nice would Maxey look in Miami right now? Miami said no and drafted a backup for Bam. It's not just a make or miss league, it's also a drafting hit and miss league.

Sounds like you are looking for guarantees, AirP. Theres a lot of bball history that shows nothing ever will be. You do the best you can.

Dont be the Anthony Davis Pelicans and try to surround your star with proven guys, max out your cap, deplete all your pick assets and then watch Wemby go play for the Lakers. Gross.

No, I'm looking for an organization not to hold back a possible all time great player by actively making the roster terrible. I was a fan of that type of team for years (Chicago) and what have they done without an all-time great, not much with interesting enough the same goes for Popovich and Phil Jackson, both great minds but only won with great players... maybe having great players is part of the equation for their legacy? Why do I say this, because I think Miami has a better coach by far then both of them with Spoelstra who is winning a lot in the playoffs without nearly the talent levels.

If Spoelstra were coaching San Antonio, I think their season would be dramatically different.

[DayofMourning]

And what if they miss on their draft picks or get a bad pick? It just blows my mind so many people in this sub of a team that doesn't tank have 0 issues throwing seasons of high level to great players out the window.

Great minds can miss on drafting players, right? I mean how nice would Maxey look in Miami right now? Miami said no and drafted a backup for Bam. It's not just a make or miss league, it's also a drafting hit and miss league.

Sounds like you are looking for guarantees, AirP. Theres a lot of bball history that shows nothing ever will be. You do the best you can.

Dont be the Anthony Davis Pelicans and try to surround your star with proven guys, max out your cap, deplete all your pick assets and then watch Wemby go play for the Lakers. Gross.

No, I'm looking for an organization not to hold back a possible all time great player by actively making the roster terrible. I was a fan of that type of team for years (Chicago) and what have they done without an all-time great, not much with interesting enough the same goes for Popovich and Phil Jackson, both great minds but only won with great players... maybe having great players is part of the equation for their legacy? Why do I say this, because I think Miami has a better coach by far then both of them with Spoelstra who is winning a lot in the playoffs without nearly the talent levels.

If Spoelstra were coaching San Antonio, I think their season would be drastically different.

Do you think adding 2 lottery talents will make their roster worse?

[AirP.]

Sounds like you are looking for guarantees, AirP. Theres a lot of bball history that shows nothing ever will be. You do the best you can.

Dont be the Anthony Davis Pelicans and try to surround your star with proven guys, max out your cap, deplete all your pick assets and then watch Wemby go play for the Lakers. Gross.

No, I'm looking for an organization not to hold back a possible all time great player by actively making the roster terrible. I was a fan of that type of team for years (Chicago) and what have they done without an all-time great, not much with interesting enough the same goes for Popovich and Phil Jackson, both great minds but only won with great players... maybe having great players is part of the equation for their legacy? Why do I say this, because I think Miami has a better coach by far then both of them with Spoelstra who is winning a lot in the playoffs without nearly the talent levels.

If Spoelstra were coaching San Antonio, I think their season would be drastically different.

Do you think adding 2 lottery talents will make their roster worse?

In your scenario they still get 1 lottery pick from another team and their own pick (which could still be a lottery pick) and have a better idea of what type of players they need to put around Wemby. San Antonio has 6 1st rounders the next 2 drafts, they need to know what type of players work or don't work with Wemby.

It's all about Wemby much like it should have always been building around LeBron or building around KD (which wasn't the case in OKC) and they lost him.

You can PM about this, we're posting back and forth on this too much for the forums.

[Bishop45]

The fact that Giannis in his prime isn't the best player in the league is wild, the level of talent in the game today is wild

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[DayofMourning]

I dont keep up with Dame but I did notice hes taking more FTs a game than any player on our team. Tyler gets 3 FTA. Dame gets 8 a game.

Dame was averaging more FTs at the same age, but not by much. Maybe Herro will get the patented "Turn a guy into a superstar" treatment by awarding more FTs next year.

[Flash4thewin]

I dont keep up with Dame but I did notice hes taking more FTs a game than any player on our team. Tyler gets 3 FTA. Dame gets 8 a game.

Dame was averaging more FTs at the same age, but not by much. Maybe Herro will get the patented "Turn a guy into a superstar" treatment by awarding more FTs next year.

Unfortunately it seems highly unlikely and the refs are already starting to give that treatment to Bam with more FT. Thats not to say Herro is bad, he will get his points from the 3pt line which we desperately need for spacing. It would be great if he could get a few more FT but who knows.

[DayofMourning]

I dont keep up with Dame but I did notice hes taking more FTs a game than any player on our team. Tyler gets 3 FTA. Dame gets 8 a game.

Dame was averaging more FTs at the same age, but not by much. Maybe Herro will get the patented "Turn a guy into a superstar" treatment by awarding more FTs next year.

Unfortunately it seems highly unlikely and the refs are already starting to give that treatment to Bam with more FT. Thats not to say Herro is bad, he will get his points from the 3pt line which we desperately need for spacing. It would be great if he could get a few more FT but who knows.

Id say that with some of his drives, if we applied the same make him a superstar courtesy that other players benefit from, he might bump 3 to 4.5.

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Seriously!!! Man that has to be it for Paul.

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I would say that is partly a reason, other reasons are he was surrounded by talent in Golden state, two players whom have incredible gravity pulling defenders, so he got away with not getting the type of attention or isolation defense, as he is getting on crap team by himself. He was already a streaky shooter, if you take away his ability to perform a move as often as he did and now give him the other teams full aggro towards him in attention, well you get what you see now.

[Bishop45]

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Hartenstein buddy. I think hes a good piece to the puzzle for a lot of teams. Would like to see him here.