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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1701 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:37 pm

I still like the idea of snagging Spencer Dinwiddie before the deadline as an alternative to going all in on someone like Murray or Grant. Big guard who can play next to Maxey who provides solid playmaking, FT rate, and iso scoring. He’s also an expiring so we maintain our cap space next summer.

Nets could end up sellers & I’d explore any Dinwiddie + DFS trades they might be interested in.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1702 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:30 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:I still like the idea of snagging Spencer Dinwiddie before the deadline as an alternative to going all in on someone like Murray or Grant. Big guard who can play next to Maxey who provides solid playmaking, FT rate, and iso scoring. He’s also an expiring so we maintain our cap space next summer.


Honestly, he's all we really need at this time. I like Murray, but he's going to cost us big time. Dinwiddie, ironically is probably the better fit for this team and Maxey.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1703 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:00 pm

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1705 » by Mik317 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:35 pm

the cap space plan was always off IMO. Teams are shook to let actual good players reach FA...the threat of losing them for nothing is real..so most get traded and then resign there or just reup when able. If we take cap space into the summer it will have to be to absorb contracts which will be hard because Tobias will be gone and he's our big money guy....so unless the "plan" is to sign a bunch of left overs to fill out the roster idk
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Post#1706 » by M2J » Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:11 pm

Mik317 wrote:the cap space plan was always off IMO. Teams are shook to let actual good players reach FA...the threat of losing them for nothing is real..so most get traded and then resign there or just reup when able. If we take cap space into the summer it will have to be to absorb contracts which will be hard because Tobias will be gone and he's our big money guy....so unless the "plan" is to sign a bunch of left overs to fill out the roster idk


Well I think a back up to that (signing a free agent) is using Cap space to acquire a guy in a trade with draft compensation and filler.

There are options, but it would be foolish to not do something by the deadline and waste this year
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Post#1707 » by elchengue20 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:21 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:I still like the idea of snagging Spencer Dinwiddie before the deadline as an alternative to going all in on someone like Murray or Grant. Big guard who can play next to Maxey who provides solid playmaking, FT rate, and iso scoring. He’s also an expiring so we maintain our cap space next summer.

Nets could end up sellers & I’d explore any Dinwiddie + DFS trades they might be interested in.


Hes not a bad option, decent to good all around combo guard with size, but hes absolutely not a good ISO scorer at the highest level. Also hes average as a defender and shooter.

The question is, would you rather spend some assets in a marginal upgrade with no big upside or spend most of them in a player who can really be a difference maker?

You cant do both.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1708 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:09 pm

Murray gave Boston fits last year in the playoffs IIRC. If we’re using them as a measuring stick.
always a jump shot away.
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Post#1709 » by Kobblehead » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:35 pm

There's a legit danger in having too many guys on the floor that want to get theirs. Maxey and Embiid surrounded by three assist finishers in the way to go, IMO.

Siakam is just a mouth to feed, and is a bad fit for spacing.
Murray is just a mouth to feed.

Maxey and Embiid should be the only mouths to feed. Those other threes guys should be low maintenance. IMO.

Does Grant consider himself another mouth to feed? (15.6 fga per game over the last four year). Very possible. But I think his game adapts well back to being role player for us.
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Post#1710 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:48 pm

Kobblehead wrote:There's a legit danger in having too many guys on the floor that want to get theirs. Maxey and Embiid surrounded by three assist finishers in the way to go, IMO.

Siakam is just a mouth to feed, and is a bad fit for spacing.
Murray is just a mouth to feed.

Maxey and Embiid should be the only mouths to feed. Those other threes guys should be low maintenance. IMO.

Does Grant consider himself another mouth to feed? (15.6 fga per game over the last four year). Very possible. But I think his game adapts well back to being role player for us.


Unfortunately Maxey is reaching overrated levels and shouldn’t be counted upon to save the team when we’re in a scoring drought come playoff time. Since Embiid has his own set of issues in that regard, we need someone who can go on ball and get a bucket. Not sure Murray is that guy, but Grant def isn’t that guy.
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Post#1711 » by M2J » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:09 am

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Kobblehead wrote:There's a legit danger in having too many guys on the floor that want to get theirs. Maxey and Embiid surrounded by three assist finishers in the way to go, IMO.

Siakam is just a mouth to feed, and is a bad fit for spacing.
Murray is just a mouth to feed.

Maxey and Embiid should be the only mouths to feed. Those other threes guys should be low maintenance. IMO.

Does Grant consider himself another mouth to feed? (15.6 fga per game over the last four year). Very possible. But I think his game adapts well back to being role player for us.


Unfortunately Maxey is reaching overrated levels and shouldn’t be counted upon to save the team when we’re in a scoring drought come playoff time. Since Embiid has his own set of issues in that regard, we need someone who can go on ball and get a bucket. Not sure Murray is that guy, but Grant def isn’t that guy.

So Lavine then....?




Honestly I'd say Maxey is an amazing catch and shoot player, when Joel is out, he's not getting those opportunities.

Truth be told both Maxey and Joel are elite finishers, and could use a Murray. Maxey is proving to be a great lead guard, and Joel is good with the DHO game, and Murray this season is showing he can be a good finisher too. The concern I have is whether or not Nick Nurse would still feature Maxey off the ball with a ball dominant pg. Harden is tough to take off ball at all, because he doesn't do anything without it. But they need to feature more Maxey movement shooting if the were to have another starting guard. Maxey won't get all the touches in the world, but it should be the first option of the offense, because looking for him opens things up. Just like looking for Joel in the paint draws attention, whether he gets it or not
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1712 » by eyeatoma » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:42 am

I'm so glad that Kawhi signed that extension. One less reason for Morey to try and target these old ass injury prone stars in the offseason. Paul George is also not the answer because he has the same issues, and no one is leaving LA for Philly, lets be real.

Time to just put up with what you have and make a deal now. Go get Lauri and Clarkson or Lauri and Caruso. Hell see if you can get Lauri and Murray, just do it, time is now. Milwaukee is vulnerable, Boston sucks against everyone but is in the playoffs, lets change that...
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1713 » by eyeatoma » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:43 am

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Post#1714 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:58 am

My final vote before **** goes down the next few weeks is Lauri + Grant in two separate deals.

Trade 1: Morris/Reed/Springer/picks for Lauri/Olynyk

Trade 2: Harris/Martin for Grant/Thybulle. Would love Brogdon instead of Thybulle here but I don't think we'd have the assets left over to do it.

Maxey/Beverley/(buyout)
Melton/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Grant/Oubre/House
Lauri/Batum/Covington
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba

Could see someone like Delon Wright or Alec Burks being a strong buyout candidate.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1715 » by zaz102 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:01 am

They can afford that for a year, but thr year after Lauri's deal is up. I don't see how they could afford Embiid, Maxey, Grant, and Markkanen. That's what, about $160M per year right there?
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Post#1716 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:08 am

I mean, you basically have to be a 1st apron team if you want to win it all.

Denver, LAC, Golden State, Milwaukee, Boston, and Miami are all in that category. Minnesota will join that group next year if they don't make any major changes.

This is likely our last push with Embiid, might as well give it a sincere effort.
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1717 » by eyeatoma » Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:13 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:My final vote before **** goes down the next few weeks is Lauri + Grant in two separate deals.

Trade 1: Morris/Reed/Springer/picks for Lauri/Olynyk

Trade 2: Harris/Martin for Grant/Thybulle. Would love Brogdon instead of Thybulle here but I don't think we'd have the assets left over to do it.

Maxey/Beverley/(buyout)
Melton/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Grant/Oubre/House
Lauri/Batum/Covington
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba

Could see someone like Delon Wright or Alec Burks being a strong buyout candidates.


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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1718 » by zaz102 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:37 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:I mean, you basically have to be a 1st apron team if you want to win it all.

Denver, LAC, Golden State, Milwaukee, Boston, and Miami are all in that category. Minnesota will join that group next year if they don't make any major changes.

This is likely our last push with Embiid, might as well give it a sincere effort.
The second apron is at $189M. So if you have $160M for the four players, that means everyone else on the roster would essentially have to be minimum players to stay below the second apron.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1719 » by Stanford » Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:42 am

Negrodamus wrote:Unfortunately Maxey is reaching overrated levels


Not sure what you mean. Most people here think he sucks.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1720 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:47 am

Stanford wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Unfortunately Maxey is reaching overrated levels


Not sure what you mean. Most people here think he sucks.


Here does not equal the overall view of Maxey. There is a not so insignificant amount of talking heads who think Maxey should start in the all star game.

Don’t hear me as saying he’s not good; he is. But Haliburton, Young, Brunson, Lillard are all studs separate from whoever is on the court with them. Maxey looks best when the reigning MVP is on the court with him.

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