Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

[165bows]

Deni Avdija thread bumped on the T+T board. He's kind of the perfect guy (outside of prob wanting more minutes at least while Al is still around), pretty much borderline not attainable unfortunately.

[Hal14]

Bey and Fontecchio are probably my top 2 targets as of now (not necessarily in that order). In terms of guys who are realistically attainable, could also help move the needle for us. Plus they're both big wings, which is what Brad said he's looking for.

Either guy would help eat some reg season minutes, while also serving as Hauser insurance, in case the lights are too bright for Hauser come playoff time.

And even if Hauser is playing well in the playoffs, then Bey/Fontecchio could also serve as Pritchard insurance in case he isn't hitting shots or if he's getting hunted defensively - we could just go bigger..with Jrue, White and the Jays playing all the guard minutes.

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[gammajamma]

Deni Avdija thread bumped on the T+T board. He's kind of the perfect guy (outside of prob wanting more minutes at least while Al is still around), pretty much borderline not attainable unfortunately.

Not sure we can make it work moneywise, pretty sure he has a poison pill contract

[Celts17Pride]

Deni Avdija thread bumped on the T+T board. He's kind of the perfect guy (outside of prob wanting more minutes at least while Al is still around), pretty much borderline not attainable unfortunately.

Just like Stewart from Detroit, because of the poison pill contract Avdija has, the Celtics have to move $12.2 million to get him. Also his production is not worth $15 million per year for a team way over the luxury tax

[165bows]

Deni Avdija thread bumped on the T+T board. He's kind of the perfect guy (outside of prob wanting more minutes at least while Al is still around), pretty much borderline not attainable unfortunately.

Not sure we can make it work moneywise, pretty sure he has a poison pill contract

Ducking while I say this but they could hypothetically move all the bench guys (Hauser, Walsh, Svi, Stevens, Brissett, Banton) and a bunch of picks (2024 first plus 3-4 really good to mediocre seconds)for Kispert/Avdija.

Would need prob 2+ other teams involved to take on guys or send back other guys into what was left of the TPE. Plus not really sure that WAS would have any interest either. I mean, esp after they just got fleeced this summer lol.

[Celts17Pride]

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Obviously Balmer can throw money around like crazy, but investing in Kawhi 3 years at such a large amount with his constant health issues makes no sense.

[Celts17Pride]

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Obviously Balmer can throw money around like crazy, but investing in Kawhi 3 years at such a large amount with his constant health issues makes no sense.

Keeps Kawhi away from Philly

[Bill Lumbergh]

Bey and Fontecchio are probably my top 2 targets as of now (not necessarily in that order). In terms of guys who are realistically attainable, could also help move the needle for us. Plus they're both big wings, which is what Brad said he's looking for.

Either guy would help eat some reg season minutes, while also serving as Hauser insurance, in case the lights are too bright for Hauser come playoff time.

And even if Hauser is playing well in the playoffs, then Bey/Fontecchio could also serve as Pritchard insurance in case he isn't hitting shots or if he's getting hunted defensively - we could just go bigger..with Jrue, White and the Jays playing all the guard minutes.

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Those are my top two targets, too. Both fit into the TPE and would not require packaging our entire bench. Bey probably commands a little more in pick compensation, but with Fontecchio, Danny is probably a major pain in the ass to deal with. Anyway, I hope we get one of them.

Edit: I meant if we're going after a wing. The truth is, I'm fine with just going with Brissett, though, who I like pretty well. I'm comfortable with our big rotation, okay with our wings, basically, though Sam in the playoffs is a minor concern (but we've got Brissett as an option, though he's not much of a shooter). Picking nits, but the only other minor concern is the possibility of PP getting targeted successfully in the playoffs, so maybe a bigger PG would be a guy I would target. We ought to be able to stagger White and Holiday's minutes so one of them can be on the floor almost at all times, though, so even that's not a huge concern.

[cl2117]

Memphis feels like the right partner. This is now a lost season for them, we just did a deal with them this summer so obviously our front offices can work together. Plenty of guys on their roster that would look solid on our bench, fit the TPE and not cost much either:

Bismack Biyombo- $5m expiring, been solid enough with Adams done for the season that they let Lofton Jr. go instead

John Konchar- $2.4m with 3/18 extension starting this summer. Having an awful year, but solid fit (might even be free at this point just to get him off the books next year)

Xavier Tillman- $1.9m expiring, small ball big with extremely limited offense but decent defense

Guys like Zaire Williams, Jake LaRavia, David Roddy and Santi Aldama would all be solid flyers, but it makes far more sense for Memphis to pump them with minutes for the rest of the season in case one can turn a corner and be something. Although maybe if we were willing to throw them a first and/or 2nds and eat bad money (Konchar/Rose), they'd be open to moving one.

They own their own pick this year and can lean into the tank with Ja being done for the season, so they're bound to make some moves. Even if we're not snagging on of their guys, maybe we can get involved with team X that comes in to pick their bones.

IDK, none of those guys really move me - not sure any would move the needle for us.

Just because it's a lost season for them doesn't mean we have to trade for their scraps.

I think we can do better.

If Konchar is having an awful year and can't shoot, why would he be solid fit here? Also hasn't really produced in the playoffs when given the chance.

I don't expect us to land a needle mover given what we have to offer in terms of salary matching/picks. I'm guessing it's more likley Brad adds guys who just bolster depth in case the injury bug strikes down the stretch. So if you can get decent fitting "scraps" for little to no cost, it can't hurt. Wouldn't expect them to end up breaking into the rotation, regular season or playoff, but god forbid you lose 2-3 guys then at least you're not totally short-handed.

Konchar apparently is a "utilitarian" in terms of being able to do a little bit of everything and knowing not to try to do too much. I guess that's the fit for our team given that we've got plenty of top talent so having guys who just fill the space in between works. I'm not sold on him at all but Brad was rumored to be interested.

If you think the last two years are far more indicative of the type of player he is than this year's stat-line it's not a bad shout if you can land him essentially for free. If you can nap another expiring depth piece alongside him (Bismack/Tillman) all the better.

[Celts17Pride]

In my opinion John Konchar offers about as much as Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk. Wouldn't even bother. Better off keeping Mykhailiuk for continuity.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Bey and Fontecchio are probably my top 2 targets as of now (not necessarily in that order). In terms of guys who are realistically attainable, could also help move the needle for us. Plus they're both big wings, which is what Brad said he's looking for.

Either guy would help eat some reg season minutes, while also serving as Hauser insurance, in case the lights are too bright for Hauser come playoff time.

And even if Hauser is playing well in the playoffs, then Bey/Fontecchio could also serve as Pritchard insurance in case he isn't hitting shots or if he's getting hunted defensively - we could just go bigger..with Jrue, White and the Jays playing all the guard minutes.

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Good find, Hal. The videos really do a great job of showing his athleticism and movement to the hoop, which Hauser does not have. Hauser seems much more of a slow straight line guy who needs a burst of energy to finish his play. Fontecchio is much more of a true athlete who seems to have an extra level he can take it to when he needs to finish driving quickly and he does it all quite fluidly. This fluidity, shooting ability and athleticism impresses me, and makes me think that he would be a decent candidate for the Celtics. But as always it's very difficult to tell or gather a 100% conclusion using YouTube videos. Still they do highlight his strengths and I'm sure his weaknesses.

[BK_2020]

Fontecchio sucks

[Parliament10]

In my opinion John Konchar offers about as much as Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk. Wouldn't even bother. Better off keeping Mykhailiuk for continuity.

I think Mykhailiuk is a good Jack-of-All-Trades, so to speak. He's a 2nd Ballhandler and a 3pt shooter.

[cl2117]

Fontecchio sucks

Who do you suggest we acquire?

[Parliament10]

TBH, unless Brad can come up with something really surprising, I don't think that we'll make any Trades.
This team is really jelling well. Why rock the boat?

[Hal14]

TBH, unless Brad can come up with something really surprising, I don't think that we'll make any Trades.
This team is really jelling well. Why rock the boat?

To increase the chances that we win the title.

[cl2117]

TBH, unless Brad can come up with something really surprising, I don't think that we'll make any Trades.
This team is really jelling well. Why rock the boat?

One line of thinking I have is just getting ahead of the 2nd apron limitations down the line. Grant TPE expires mid-July and in the future we can't aggregate salaries to match a guy making more. Might make sense to add a guy now, even if you're not intending to have him crack the rotation, because it then gives you more options later.

Whether it's getting a guy like Konchar that's signed longer term, Fontecchio who is an RFA this summer or getting someone with bird rights, you're opening up pathways to keep/add guys that aren't just vet minimum signings.

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[cl2117]

I'd take Bismack as a buyout 4th big in a heartbeat.