Dak Prescott thread

[Mr B]

I rank however I want,but "x" was better than "y" this season is just dumb as the most important part of this season isnt over, and also most of these guys' careers are longer than 17 games.

I already know what I have with Dak, and you arent missing much if you dont have him once you get to the postseason. What I can develop Herbert into is something much better. and If you wanna take a guy you havent seen play in two levels that's your call, there is a reason some franchises are more successful than others

Then you don't actually know. Because we'd insta-lose without Dak in this post season. We'd be heavy underdogs to the Packers.

We went 4-12 the season he went out with injury.

What you are showing is what I was getting at, you have an unreasonable bias against Dak. You're having to jump through hoops to discredit him that you don't do with other QBs. It is clearly there.

See you are getting emotional again, I back up everything I say and your inability to refute it puts you in emotional distress.

I know, because all I have seen in 8 long years is divisional exit at best. That's it. 8 years of results, nothing more nothing less. Anything else is just guessing game.

And as I always say, you are free to value him however you want, I am just not interested in buying whatever you are trying to sell me.

I haven’t seen you back up anything you’ve ever said here. You’re constantly pulling things out of your ass.

[El Turco]

That's also your opinion, you are obviously upset but they are just words on the screen

[Mr B]

Ooof that would also mean he is better than Dak ahah

Well Herbert isn’t better than Dak or Mahomes. Wasn’t this year or the past 2 seasons. I’m starting to think you only like him because he’s a white guy.

[Mariner]

Then you don't actually know. Because we'd insta-lose without Dak in this post season. We'd be heavy underdogs to the Packers.

We went 4-12 the season he went out with injury.

What you are showing is what I was getting at, you have an unreasonable bias against Dak. You're having to jump through hoops to discredit him that you don't do with other QBs. It is clearly there.

See you are getting emotional again, I back up everything I say and your inability to refute it puts you in emotional distress.

I know, because all I have seen in 8 long years is divisional exit at best. That's it. 8 years of results, nothing more nothing less. Anything else is just guessing game.

And as I always say, you are free to value him however you want, I am just not interested in buying whatever you are trying to sell me.

I haven’t seen you back up anything you’ve ever said here. You’re constantly pulling things out of your ass.

Very true.

[El Turco]

Holy reach, but reaching is also sign of frustration

[Mr B]

So you would've taken Cooper?

Cooper has a disability and didn’t play football beyond HS. If you ask any Manning though he was the best QB of the bunch. So if he did not have the disability you bet I’m taking the Manning brother over Justin Herbert’s lame ass.

[Mr B]

Holy reach, but reaching is also sign of frustration

You mean like Wimbi reaching in his ass and pulling out made up ****?

[last stand]

Just about every GM would take Herbert over Dak. Careers dont last one season and even if it did you know Dak is going to fail you once you get to the important games. Dak could only dream about the throws Herbert makes, Herbert will be unleashed once Harbaugh gets there lol

Well it’s been 3+ years and he’s still not better than Dak by any stretch of the imagination.

Daks first 4 years vs Herbert’s first 4?

Then let’s talk their respective circumstances on top of that.

[Mariner]

Just about every GM would take Herbert over Dak. Careers dont last one season and even if it did you know Dak is going to fail you once you get to the important games. Dak could only dream about the throws Herbert makes, Herbert will be unleashed once Harbaugh gets there lol

Well it’s been 3+ years and he’s still not better than Dak by any stretch of the imagination.

Daks first 4 years vs Herbert’s first 4?

Then let’s talk their respective circumstances on top of that.

Herbert is an enigma. The talent and potential is clearly there. He could easily be an all time great or have a worse career than Dak.
His story isn’t written yet cause he’s young but right now he doesn’t look like a winner.

[El Turco]

Cant all be pure winners like Dak

[Mariner]

Cant all be pure winners like Dak

What does that have to do with anything?

[El Turco]

Nothing, wrong thread I guess

[Mariner]

Nothing, wrong thread I guess

The conversation had shifted to Herbert.

[Micah Prescott]

Herbert does need his own thread. We need to figure out just how exactly this dude became the most overrated QB in the history of the league.

The guy has played 4 years now without even making it to the playoffs and nevermind being declared better than Dak, he's getting legit Mahomes comparisons.

[Micah Prescott]

See you are getting emotional again, I back up everything I say and your inability to refute it puts you in emotional distress.

I know, because all I have seen in 8 long years is divisional exit at best. That's it. 8 years of results, nothing more nothing less. Anything else is just guessing game.

And as I always say, you are free to value him however you want, I am just not interested in buying whatever you are trying to sell me.

I haven’t seen you back up anything you’ve ever said here. You’re constantly pulling things out of your ass.

Very true.

Absolutely true

[last stand]

Herbert does need his own thread. We need to figure out just how exactly this dude became the most overrated QB in the history of the league.

The guy has played 4 years now without even making it to the playoffs and nevermind being declared better than Dak, he's getting legit Mahomes comparisons.

Who’s compared him to mahomes? I know I compared his circumstance to mahomes circumstance

I don’t even think he’s top 5, he’s most like 8-12

[last stand]

Well it’s been 3+ years and he’s still not better than Dak by any stretch of the imagination.

Daks first 4 years vs Herbert’s first 4?

Then let’s talk their respective circumstances on top of that.

Herbert is an enigma. The talent and potential is clearly there. He could easily be an all time great or have a worse career than Dak.
His story isn’t written yet cause he’s young but right now he doesn’t look like a winner.

I think the complete unrest at coaching, the terrible ownership, and the inability to create a winning roster has more to do with his lack of success than him.

With dak he’s had rosters that were contending rosters. I’d argue Kirk cousins is a similar example of someone who came into an nfc championship level roster.

Herbert production wise is on par with dak, especially when you bring up their first 4 years

How would Herbert have faired with a top 3 offensive line, a top 3 running back, talent everywhere?

I think it’s safer to say dak at 8 years is more closely related to a proven commodity when it comes to things like lack of postseason success. Sure this season dak could very well shed that moniker, go through the nfc and take Dallas to a Super Bowl.

But a player surrounded by disaster vs a player surrounded by relative consistency. A player on contending rosters vs a player on mediocre rosters. Herbert may be screwed. He may develop terrible habits, he may never learn the consistency needed to win in the postseason, but I kill dak a lot more for what he’s failed to do with what he has than I kill Herbert for failing with what he’s been given.

It’s like Brock purdy vs Justin fields. I think Brock purdys better. But if someone’s like Justin fields isn’t a winner compared to Brock purdy, my response would be like well, I believe Brock’s a better QB, but I’m not gonna kill Justin fields for not winning with what’s around him.

[azcatz11]

Herbert does need his own thread. We need to figure out just how exactly this dude became the most overrated QB in the history of the league.

The guy has played 4 years now without even making it to the playoffs and nevermind being declared better than Dak, he's getting legit Mahomes comparisons.

The thing I don’t like about Herbert is he has a very long release.

[QB_Eagles]

His "whole body of work" is just as good as Allen or Herbert or most of the others that could be listed above.

That is just blatantly false, because Josh Allen has been to a conference championship game.

[QB_Eagles]

Herbert does need his own thread. We need to figure out just how exactly this dude became the most overrated QB in the history of the league.

The guy has played 4 years now without even making it to the playoffs and nevermind being declared better than Dak, he's getting legit Mahomes comparisons.

He's 3rd in passing yards over the last 4 seasons behind Mahomes and Allen.