Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[MickeyDavis]

Update on Crowder from AG about his 5 on 5 yesterday: "It went great. I watched it in entirety. He was able to get some good contact. Responded well this morning. So he's progressing quite well. It was good to see him out there."

Nehm: "As a reminder, Crowder said he has three 5-on-5 sessions scheduled, which means he is still a little bit away from a return"

[Plossum]

Bobby, Rolo, Beas to Kings for Harry Barnes.

Pat & Payne to Lakers for Gabe Vincent.

Dame, Barne, Khris, Giannis, Brolo
Vincent, Jae, Marjon our main bench.

Would need to snag another big either off the scrapheap or hope someone decent becomes available in the buyout market. Austin Rivers might be worth a look.

[Plossum]

Another one I was thinking about - is there any chance the Warriors would trade us Moses Moody? This one feels a tad ambitious but the Warriors don't seem to rate him that highly.

[Dick Tate]

Might see a Jae v Draymond battle on Saturday?

[nagawicka]

Have the Bucks won a championship this year? No?
Do the Bucks have the same roster that won a title in 2021? No?
Has the current roster proven it can win or that it has won a championship in this the Year of Our Lord 2023?? No?
Literally then, the roster the Bucks are putting on the court this year is not a championship roster. Yet. Literally. Prove it otherwise by winning the whole schmear this year.

Lol this is such a trash take. By that logic, no team can EVER have a championship roster until they've won it and before the next season starts assuming they don't have an identical roster.

Eh, no. It's literally the best and trashiest trash take you've EVER heard in your ENTIRE life. No other trash take comes close to adhering to reality so closely that it puts an end to all trash takes for all time. Not only does it have the advantage of being true, it's proven over and over again by all the sky-is-falling I've-never-watched-sports-before crying about how the Bucks roster is a catastrophe and everyone's washed except for Giannis. Either it's a catastrophe, or it's a championship roster. It can't be both. Even the 'reigning champions' are merely last year's last-team-left-standing--but with a new and unproven lineup. You may rilly rilly *want* it to be true, but the National Basketball Association plays an entire season of 82 games to find out who in fact can claim to have a championship roster. The NBA is littered with fired GMs and failed owners who operate as though putting together a great roster--that also functions as a coherent team--is an exercise in grocery shopping. Like writing down a buncha names you recognize w/numbers behind them will translate into game out on the floor, when you know numbers fool believers as much as the eye test. : > '.. and Kyrie! he's still hungry .. KD!!! write him down too .. and Steph! saw Steph make a bucket!! ! ..' Unrealistic expectations don't compensate for refusing to admit the sum of the parts don't always add up the kind of greater whole it takes to win NBA Championships. Next time just say "My Dream Team which we have No Idea can Win it All' roster instead of 'championship roster'. You mean 'roster I really like'/'think will be competitive' because every year we have no idea how any one (revised) team will cohere or how much all the previously lesser-known teams have improved. Calling what we happen to like a 'championship roster' doesn't really translate into the standing to squwaalll like we've all been cheated out of christmas presents a whole year ahead of time. Fans do all the time, sure, but enjoy the reality of the game for what it is. One thing it is is a workplace where championships aren't just handed to you, not because you won a title three (3) years ago and not because Khris was injured, and not because somebody put numbers on a piece of paper and started counting their chickens.

[paulpressey25]

Not sure which thread to post this in, but here goes. People should listen to their 30 minute breakdown of the Bucks problems starting at the 17 minute mark. I’m not going to put in the spoiler alert but the first 28 minutes lead up to a hilarious last two minutes.

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[mcfromage]

Not sure which thread to post this in, but here goes. People should listen to their 30 minute breakdown of the Bucks problems starting at the 17 minute mark. I’m not going to put in the spoiler alert but the first 28 minutes lead up to a hilarious last two minutes.

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This was great. Fire AG. He offers nothin’. Let’s rip the bandaid off Horsty.

[paulpressey25]

This was great. Fire AG. He offers nothin’. Let’s rip the bandaid off Horsty.

And it had some intellectual rigor to it. They went over the roster for trade options. And said making a small trade wasn’t going to help much, because there is no system in place, where a lessor trade target would make an impact. Then said to make a big trade, it would have to be Brook. But said then the Bucks have no center, and Giannis isn’t playing full time center. Said the roster is pretty locked in.

Might have been Mahoney who chimed the team is winning on pure talent alone. No system, or scheme doing anything. Just raw talent.

[rayallenscalves]

This was great. Fire AG. He offers nothin’. Let’s rip the bandaid off Horsty.

And it had some intellectual rigor to it. They went over the roster for trade options. And said making a small trade wasn’t going to help much, because there is no system in place, where a lessor trade target would make an impact. Then said to make a big trade, it would have to be Brook. But said then the Bucks have no center, and Giannis isn’t playing full time center. Said the roster is pretty locked in.

Might have been Mahoney who chimed the team is winning on pure talent alone. No system, or scheme doing anything. Just raw talent.

I mean, I think Mahoney’s point is pretty obvious to anyone who has watched even one Bucks game this season, but still nice to have at least one national media member call it out. Much like the Bucks winning the title despite Bud, the Bucks are winning games this season despite Grief.

[RiotPunch]

Not sure which thread to post this in, but here goes. People should listen to their 30 minute breakdown of the Bucks problems starting at the 17 minute mark. I’m not going to put in the spoiler alert but the first 28 minutes lead up to a hilarious last two minutes.

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Great stuff and they nailed a lot of it on the head.

The difference between these guys and local journalist guys, one of them a friend of mine, is astronomical. Actively downplaying the idea of firing Griffin midseason, calling it a "waste of time, won't happen." Like, no, this isn't your run-of-the-mill "FiRe ThE cOaCh" fan banter-- this is pure, unadulterated malpractice of the highest order from Grief, and hoop heads are taking notice.

If the Giannis appeasement stuff is true, it makes this firing even easier to pull the trigger on. A coach that neither ownership nor management wanted? Giannis has since extended and he is now clearly starting to see that Grief ain't it. He's gotta take the L and accept more structure. Stotts still makes the most sense. Bud is not happening. Atkinson is a pipedream. Doc maybe.

[M-C-G]

Horst makes big moves, I’ll give him that, so there is a chance AG gets fired. BUT the embarrassment to the organization might be too much for some big egos to accept in season.

They paraded this exhaustive search process only to end up with someone that doesn’t have IT. Stotts on a short term deal to get us through the year might be enough.


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[RiotPunch]

Horst makes big moves, I’ll give him that, so there is a chance AG gets fired. BUT the embarrassment to the organization might be too much for some big egos to accept in season.

They paraded this exhaustive search process only to end up with someone that doesn’t have IT. Stotts on a short term deal to get us through the year might be enough.


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But it has already been reported that ownership/management didn't want Grief. They wanted to appease Giannis. They did that and now Giannis is doubting the new coach he signed off on.

If anything, it is an opportunity for them to avoid further embarrassment and come out looking like savants in navigating the predicament they were faced with. Giannis happy enough to extend, fraudulent coach exposed badly enough to warrant firing early, enough time to get an adult in the room to salvage the season.

[theFireBlanket]

What about rolling the dice on a deal like Ausar Thompson for Bobby?

Monty hasn't been playing him & saw Bobby win in 21.

He had an incredible start to the season. I'd definitely be all over it. Add a few 2nds if need be. Maybe he has a bad shot but team needs defense & rebounding. He's young. Oppenheimer hasn't done bad with AJJ.

https://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yuazcx74

[Prez]

What about rolling the dice on a deal like Ausar Thompson for Bobby?

Monty hasn't been playing him & saw Bobby win in 21.

He had an incredible start to the season. I'd definitely be all over it. Add a few 2nds of need be. Maybe he has a bad shot but team needs defense & rebounding. He's young. Oppenheimer hasn't done bad with AJJ.

https://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yuazcx74

Come on man, Detroit is not giving us the 5th pick of this past draft in his rookie season for Bobby lol.

Also could not disagree more strongly about Oppenheimer, he needs to pay for his crimes.

[theFireBlanket]

What about rolling the dice on a deal like Ausar Thompson for Bobby?

Monty hasn't been playing him & saw Bobby win in 21.

He had an incredible start to the season. I'd definitely be all over it. Add a few 2nds of need be. Maybe he has a bad shot but team needs defense & rebounding. He's young. Oppenheimer hasn't done bad with AJJ.

https://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yuazcx74

Come on man, Detroit is not giving us the 5th pick of this past draft in his rookie season for Bobby lol.

Also could not disagree more strongly about Oppenheimer, he needs to pay for his crimes.

You'd think so.

However, I say make the call. Monty Williams willingness to acquire vets for winning is where I'd hedge on the possibility. What do you have to lose?

[ShootingtheJ]

What about rolling the dice on a deal like Ausar Thompson for Bobby?

Monty hasn't been playing him & saw Bobby win in 21.

He had an incredible start to the season. I'd definitely be all over it. Add a few 2nds of need be. Maybe he has a bad shot but team needs defense & rebounding. He's young. Oppenheimer hasn't done bad with AJJ.

https://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yuazcx74

Come on man, Detroit is not giving us the 5th pick of this past draft in his rookie season for Bobby lol.

Also could not disagree more strongly about Oppenheimer, he needs to pay for his crimes.

You'd think so.

However, I say make the call. Monty Williams willingness to acquire vets for winning is where I'd hedge on the possibility. What do you have to lose?

You think this team should add a rookie who is shooting 12% on corner 3s? The Thompson twins conned enough people in to being over drafted, but don't fall for it again.

[pifhluk23]

Horst better be calling Memphis every hour of the day. Bobby would fit in great there but still have to give up quite a bit more to get Smart. I would pay whatever price they want that doesn't involve Giannis, Dame, Khris and Brook.

Bobby + pick 2 or 3 of Beasley, Marjon, Green, AJJ, Livingston, Payne + Por 2nd.

If they see value in Pat then Bobby + Pat + Por 2nd + one of the young boys if they want for Smart + salary filler forward/center.

Do we have any other picks that can be traded? send those too if we have to.

[psman2]

Horst better be calling Memphis every hour of the day. Bobby would fit in great there but still have to give up quite a bit more to get Smart. I would pay whatever price they want that doesn't involve Giannis, Dame, Khris and Brook.

Bobby + pick 2 or 3 of Beasley, Marjon, Green, AJJ, Livingston, Payne + Por 2nd.

If they see value in Pat then Bobby + Pat + Por 2nd + one of the young boys if they want for Smart + salary filler forward/center.

Do we have any other picks that can be traded? send those too if we have to.

Nothing in that offer is close to being better than keeping Smart. We fully expect to be a 50+ win team again next year and Smart will be a 30+ minute contributor. Plus sending us extra bodies would cause us to release guys that we value more than what is coming in. Just not good trade partners.

[CharityStripe34]

Horst better be calling Memphis every hour of the day. Bobby would fit in great there but still have to give up quite a bit more to get Smart. I would pay whatever price they want that doesn't involve Giannis, Dame, Khris and Brook.

Bobby + pick 2 or 3 of Beasley, Marjon, Green, AJJ, Livingston, Payne + Por 2nd.

If they see value in Pat then Bobby + Pat + Por 2nd + one of the young boys if they want for Smart + salary filler forward/center.

Do we have any other picks that can be traded? send those too if we have to.

Ask for Coach Jenkins too.

[Matches Malone]

Seems like just yesterday we had a Blazer fan in here telling us a Lillard trade would never happen to the Bucks. Now that we have our Grizzly fan in here, we can lock in Smart to the Bucks