2024 NBA Draft Thread

[Colbinii]

Boswell has so much to like and then you see his FTar and its just a huge, huge red flag IMO. Enough to drop him significantly IMO.

Yup--massive red flag.

KJ Simpson is another name I forgot to mention, he has made huge strides each year.

Boswell's FTR is such a massive outlier, I have never seen a guard prospect with such an astronomically low Free Throw Rate.

[babyjax13]

Boswell has so much to like and then you see his FTar and its just a huge, huge red flag IMO. Enough to drop him significantly IMO.

Yup--massive red flag.

KJ Simpson is another name I forgot to mention, he has made huge strides each year.

Boswell's FTR is such a massive outlier, I have never seen a guard prospect with such an astronomically low Free Throw Rate.

What are the closest you've seen in terms of drafted guys?

[Colbinii]

Boswell has so much to like and then you see his FTar and its just a huge, huge red flag IMO. Enough to drop him significantly IMO.

Yup--massive red flag.

KJ Simpson is another name I forgot to mention, he has made huge strides each year.

Boswell's FTR is such a massive outlier, I have never seen a guard prospect with such an astronomically low Free Throw Rate.

What are the closest you've seen in terms of drafted guys?

Tyrese Haliburton at .184 FTR his Sophomore year [Boswell is at .084 this year and was at .147 last year]
Davion Mitchell at .204 FTR his Junior year
T.J. McConnell maxed out at .224 FTR his Senior year
Jared Butler maxed out at .242 FTR his Junior year

Honestly, it isn't a "Don't draft this guy" red flag, but it's quite bad on a historical level for draft prospects, which means something [however small or big]. It could be as simple as he isn't driving to score but typically at this level, the best Point Guards at least produce some free throws.

[babyjax13]

Yup--massive red flag.

KJ Simpson is another name I forgot to mention, he has made huge strides each year.

Boswell's FTR is such a massive outlier, I have never seen a guard prospect with such an astronomically low Free Throw Rate.

What are the closest you've seen in terms of drafted guys?

Tyrese Haliburton at .184 FTR his Sophomore year [Boswell is at .084 this year and was at .147 last year]
Davion Mitchell at .204 FTR his Junior year
T.J. McConnell maxed out at .224 FTR his Senior year
Jared Butler maxed out at .242 FTR his Junior year

Honestly, it isn't a "Don't draft this guy" red flag, but it's quite bad on a historical level for draft prospects, which means something [however small or big]. It could be as simple as he isn't driving to score but typically at this level, the best Point Guards at least produce some free throws.

How would you feel if it was an outlier stretch even for him and he ended the season closer to where he was last year? Still a concern? Less so?

[EvanZ]

I agree it's a statistical red flag, but if there's not an accompanying physical explanation for why it's so low, I can't make *too* much out of it. If you think it's so low because he's the worst athlete ever or something like that, then that's something. My guess is it has more to do with his role and the system than his inability to get to the rim if he chose to more often. Could be wrong, of course. But it seems like he can dribble and is athletic enough.

[Colbinii]

What are the closest you've seen in terms of drafted guys?

Tyrese Haliburton at .184 FTR his Sophomore year [Boswell is at .084 this year and was at .147 last year]
Davion Mitchell at .204 FTR his Junior year
T.J. McConnell maxed out at .224 FTR his Senior year
Jared Butler maxed out at .242 FTR his Junior year

Honestly, it isn't a "Don't draft this guy" red flag, but it's quite bad on a historical level for draft prospects, which means something [however small or big]. It could be as simple as he isn't driving to score but typically at this level, the best Point Guards at least produce some free throws.

How would you feel if it was an outlier stretch even for him and he ended the season closer to where he was last year? Still a concern? Less so?

Less so. Just lower high-end outcomes.

[clyde21]

called it out in his thread, it's abnormally low, 12 attempts in 15 games is just absurd, and we can't make anything of his 92% from the FT line either because it's such a small sample size.

i dont know what it is, he's not a great athlete but that doesn't tell the whole story. maybe it's the system but haven't seen anything specific that would not allow him to attack more.

[clyde21]

i mean to put that in perspective Dilly just had a 10 FT game against Missouri, and he's 170 lbs soaking wet. he almost matched Boswell's attempts all year so far in one game. don't know what to make it of it but it's the first thing I'm tracking for him the rest of the way.

[BigGargamel]

Yikes, now Collier is out for a month plus. This draft class just can't catch a break.

I'm getting very close to putting Cody Williams at #1. Wish there was a bigger sample size but he looks tailor made for the wide open NBA game.

I also like Ja'Kobe Walter a lot. Baylor is a great program to play for, he is getting big minutes, he hits threes and plays solid defense. I put him at 3 in my most recent mock draft.

Stephon Castle with back to back 36 minute games. Getting major playing time. Just put up a 12 point, 8 assist, 6 rebound, 2 steal, 2 block game. He's back in the top ten, even with that three point percentage. Not a lot of great three point shooters at the top right now though.

I finally took Justin Edwards out of my first round all together. Am I being too harsh? Is there anything to be excited about with him?

[EvanZ]

I don't understand how some mocks still have Edwards so high. It would actually surprise me if he's a OAD.

[Colbinii]

Justin Edwards is just too athletic not to be drafted in the Top 20.

[BigGargamel]

Mark Mitchell shooting 12% from 3 LOL. Last time I checked he was shooting like 7% so he must have made a couple. It's hard to have a percentage that low because you actually have to shoot a decent amount.

[Colbinii]

I'm fascinated how I end up deciding between Cody Williams, Ron Holland and Ja’Kobe Walter.

[Duke4life831]

Mark Mitchell shooting 12% from 3 LOL. Last time I checked he was shooting like 7% so he must have made a couple. It's hard to have a percentage that low because you actually have to shoot a decent amount.

It got to down to 4% then he made 2 in a game and it jumped up. His last 35 games he is shooting 19%.

These are basically all coming from wide open looks as well. Most teams are giving him the Ben Simmons treatment this year.

His shot is beyond broken and he’s not a high level defender. He’s not a NBA prospect.

[Hal14]

called it out in his thread, it's abnormally low, 12 attempts in 15 games is just absurd, and we can't make anything of his 92% from the FT line either because it's such a small sample size.

i dont know what it is, he's not a great athlete but that doesn't tell the whole story. maybe it's the system but haven't seen anything specific that would not allow him to attack more.

Yeah I think with Boswell , the low FTr is a combination of:

-He's only like 6'1" so undersized
-He doesn't have great burst or athleticism
-He is a good shooter so he'd probably rather take those 3's that he knows he can hit at a good clip..which is probably better than taking shots closer to the basket over defenders who are much bigger than him

Perhaps it's also some stuff with the system Arizona runs..

[azcatz11]

called it out in his thread, it's abnormally low, 12 attempts in 15 games is just absurd, and we can't make anything of his 92% from the FT line either because it's such a small sample size.

i dont know what it is, he's not a great athlete but that doesn't tell the whole story. maybe it's the system but haven't seen anything specific that would not allow him to attack more.

Ballo takes up a lot of room in the paint. Our backup center is also a big seven footer. However, you look at a guy like Bradley who is our backup pg and has no issues slashing.

Boswell is like a poor man’s mateen cleaves. He doesn’t have the body control cleaves had nor the agility. He’s going to be a solid backup. If you’re expecting anything more I think you’re in for a disappointment. My concern is that he’s also physically peaked

[babyjax13]

Mark Mitchell shooting 12% from 3 LOL. Last time I checked he was shooting like 7% so he must have made a couple. It's hard to have a percentage that low because you actually have to shoot a decent amount.

It got to down to 4% then he made 2 in a game and it jumped up. His last 35 games he is shooting 19%.

These are basically all coming from wide open looks as well. Most teams are giving him the Ben Simmons treatment this year.

His shot is beyond broken and he’s not a high level defender. He’s not a NBA prospect.

He's also not an amazing athlete for an NBA 4. Good college player, though, Duke should be happy to have someone solid for 4 years!

[EvanZ]

called it out in his thread, it's abnormally low, 12 attempts in 15 games is just absurd, and we can't make anything of his 92% from the FT line either because it's such a small sample size.

i dont know what it is, he's not a great athlete but that doesn't tell the whole story. maybe it's the system but haven't seen anything specific that would not allow him to attack more.

Ballo takes up a lot of room in the paint. Our backup center is also a big seven footer. However, you look at a guy like Bradley who is our backup pg and has no issues slashing.

Boswell is like a poor man’s mateen cleaves. He doesn’t have the body control cleaves had nor the agility. He’s going to be a solid backup. If you’re expecting anything more I think you’re in for a disappointment. My concern is that he’s also physically peaked

He’s physically peaked at age 18?

[Hal14]

Justin Edwards is just too athletic not to be drafted in the Top 20.

Huh? He's not that athletic and he's very old for a freshman.

Josh Minott, Kendall Brown, GG Jackson, Greg Brown were all more athletic than Justin Edwards and all went in the 2nd round. Jordan Walsh and Julian Phillips were just as athletic but went 2nd round.

Dillon Mitchell is more athletic than Edwards and returned to school because he wasn't gonna get drafted.

Or is this a joke?

[azcatz11]

called it out in his thread, it's abnormally low, 12 attempts in 15 games is just absurd, and we can't make anything of his 92% from the FT line either because it's such a small sample size.

i dont know what it is, he's not a great athlete but that doesn't tell the whole story. maybe it's the system but haven't seen anything specific that would not allow him to attack more.

Ballo takes up a lot of room in the paint. Our backup center is also a big seven footer. However, you look at a guy like Bradley who is our backup pg and has no issues slashing.

Boswell is like a poor man’s mateen cleaves. He doesn’t have the body control cleaves had nor the agility. He’s going to be a solid backup. If you’re expecting anything more I think you’re in for a disappointment. My concern is that he’s also physically peaked

He’s physically peaked at age 18?

Yes. He played last year as a 17 year old. You can tell from his body it’s likely.