Official Immanuel Quickley Thread

[Vampirate]

What’s interesting is both quickley and Barrett have added nearly 20ppg to our roster yet defensively we haven’t improved or are as equally as bad.

It may be why the Knocks we’re willing to part ways

I like the new blood and spark but reality is right now this kid is more a young Lou Williams then a Maxey

Moving Schroder to the bench in a better role for him has improved the team's play. As a Raptor his A/T is > 6

I’ve seen no defensive improvement at all, it’s been even worse. When you add 20ppg offensively and still lose in the same fashion it’s just tells you without even diving into stats how bad defensively these additions are.

They haven’t moved the needle at all, despite adding significant scoring output

Shockingly the end results are the same

1. Age, both RJ and IQ are younger than OG so the timeline fits better, though OG isn't exactly old.

2. Of course we are worse defensively, OG is a phenomenal defender. He was also likely to walk, and there were indications that he wasn't giving his all.

We know RJ will be here for a while and IQ is a RFA, meaning we just match the best offer.

This trade was for the next few years, not necessarily solely on this one.

[dTox]

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[DelAbbot]

That 3pt shot release is lightning quick like Maxey's and accurate. A breath of fresh air from the short-arm-chucking ways of FVV

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[bape_lovers]

In what way is losing same fashion? We were legit down 10 plus pts in every game up until trade

What’s interesting is both quickley and Barrett have added nearly 20ppg to our roster yet defensively we haven’t improved or are as equally as bad.

It may be why the Knocks we’re willing to part ways

I like the new blood and spark but reality is right now this kid is more a young Lou Williams then a Maxey

Moving Schroder to the bench in a better role for him has improved the team's play. As a Raptor his A/T is > 6

I’ve seen no defensive improvement at all, it’s been even worse. When you add 20ppg offensively and still lose in the same fashion it’s just tells you without even diving into stats how bad defensively these additions are.

They haven’t moved the needle at all, despite adding significant scoring output

Shockingly the end results are the same

[Ackshun]

What’s interesting is both quickley and Barrett have added nearly 20ppg to our roster yet defensively we haven’t improved or are as equally as bad.

It may be why the Knocks we’re willing to part ways

I like the new blood and spark but reality is right now this kid is more a young Lou Williams then a Maxey

Moving Schroder to the bench in a better role for him has improved the team's play. As a Raptor his A/T is > 6

I’ve seen no defensive improvement at all, it’s been even worse. When you add 20ppg offensively and still lose in the same fashion it’s just tells you without even diving into stats how bad defensively these additions are.

They haven’t moved the needle at all, despite adding significant scoring output

Shockingly the end results are the same

Bro. They been here for less than 3 weeks. Playing with and against the best in the world. Give them some time and give yourself a better range of data. Five games ain’t gonna tell you much.

They are also young, with room for improvement. Don’t expect OG type defense but accept the trade off and hope for improvement.

Comparisons to other players are pointless to me. Let the kid carve out his own thing.

[HumbleRen]

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RJ and Quickley fully unlock the .5 offence.

[HKBOY]

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RJ and Quickley fully unlock the .5 offence.

IQ will blow up next season. He is a legit 3 level scorer who has good defense and decent playmaking skills. All Star PG in his prime.

[jepjep]

IQ is legit. Other than his height, I can’t find any negative. I was at the clippers game and only he and RJ kept the team in the game until clippers hit those 3s in the fourth to take the lead for good. He and Barnes should sit down and learn to play with each other. They’ll win more games if they work off each other. IQ and RJ already have the chemistry and it shows in games.

[HumbleRen]

IQ is legit. Other than his height, I can’t find any negative. I was at the clippers game and only he and RJ kept the team in the game until clippers hit those 3s in the fourth to take the lead for good. He and Barnes should sit down and learn to play with each other. They’ll win more games if they work off each other. IQ and RJ already have the chemistry and it shows in games.

Yep.

Scottie needs to set harder screens to free up IQ and IQ needs to be more bold and make the pass even if it’s a tight window and trust Scottie to catch it.

[Los_29]

Still can’t believe Masai got this guy.

[MiamiSPX]

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As much as we crap on the current state of the team (myself included), we ARE a top notch franchise in terms of everything off the court. So many guys have raved about the support staff, the facilities, the treatment of their families, etc. They do run a first class organization.

[dTox]

Still can’t believe Masai got this guy.

A common ground where both fans of Fred (and opposers) can stand united on, we have finally found our franchise PG.

[hyper316]

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Says he's not going anywhere, will FO extend him before getting to RFA, or wait and see?

[StopitLeo]

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Thinking Basketball is such a great channel. I think the analysis is spot on (especially when looking at his areas for improvement) and the details about his defense are very enlightening.

We are so fortunate that the opportunity to acquire him for OG worked out. He and Barnes are an exciting duo to lead the next era of this team.

[ChillRelaxDude]

It was understood that IQs contract demands were ~25M as Knicks' 6th man.

Do you think that those demands are changing given the window IQ has to prove that he is a legitimate lead guard?

I fear a 2+PO if the number stays around that point. It'd be the smartest move for IQ.

[StopitLeo]

IQ is legit. Other than his height, I can’t find any negative. I was at the clippers game and only he and RJ kept the team in the game until clippers hit those 3s in the fourth to take the lead for good. He and Barnes should sit down and learn to play with each other. They’ll win more games if they work off each other. IQ and RJ already have the chemistry and it shows in games.

Fortunately, his height isn’t a negative if he’s playing PG and thus far he has shown he can do it (he also has a 6’8” wingspan). I would be less excited about a 6’3” combo guard with limited playmaking skills.

[StopitLeo]

It was understood that IQs contract demands were ~25M as Knicks' 6th man.

Do you think that those demands are changing given the window IQ has to prove that he is a legitimate lead guard?

I fear a 2+PO if the number stays around that point. It'd be the smartest move for IQ.

He’s probably worth more than $25M, which is only 18% of the projected salary cap. His max is 25% ($37M) but I don’t think he can justify asking for that. I think something starting around $28-29M (sounds high but is only 20% of the cap) would be fair as far as being in line with his production and showing a commitment to him as your starting PG moving forward. That’s what we gave Lowry on his first deal if we want to draw parallels.

It will be interesting to see what contract term IQ is looking for. A 2+1 certainly makes sense for him as it sets him up for a new contract in year 7 when he will be in the next max salary tier.

[Tha Cynic]

IQ is legit. Other than his height, I can’t find any negative. I was at the clippers game and only he and RJ kept the team in the game until clippers hit those 3s in the fourth to take the lead for good. He and Barnes should sit down and learn to play with each other. They’ll win more games if they work off each other. IQ and RJ already have the chemistry and it shows in games.

Yep.

Scottie needs to set harder screens to free up IQ and IQ needs to be more bold and make the pass even if it’s a tight window and trust Scottie to catch it.

Barnes needs to stop slipping on screens. He was much better when he set hard screens. He can even pop to the 3 point line at times. We haven't really had him set hard screens since we got Poeltl. Right now he sets brush screens to get the switch but his team is terrible at getting the ball to him on the roll so it ends up with a nothing play. He's also too quick to slip.

There are two things this team really needs to work on - the initiators being better making quick passes off the pick and Barnes at setting screens to free up his shooters with the intention of there being multiple options.

[ArthurVandelay]

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Says he's not going anywhere, will FO extend him before getting to RFA, or wait and see?

I hope he is offered and accepts the 5/$125 he was seeking from the knicks. Maybe put some team and individual bonuses in if he is looking for more.