Celts Get Royally Bucked! Loss vs MIL 1/11

[GrandTheftRondo]

He is nowhere near 15th. He is like Darvin Ham bad. Bottom 3 easily.

This is obviously mostly on the players, sure. But why though? It’s a system where if the 3’s don’t fall they have NOTHING else to land on, they don’t play defense if their 3pt shot doesn’t fall and hey..they don’t like teams that push back. It’s why they struggle with teams like Miami and all these teams like the Magic and Minny who come at them like they don’t give a ****.

People get mad when we complain about L’s in January..but it’s not about the L’s. A loss today would be normal. It’s because the L’s always highlight the reasons why we fall short every single damn year.

God these responses are just brain-dead.

We’re like second in the league in post up points.
We’re second in the league in defence.
We blew Orlando out two games in a row.

We shoot a lot of 3s because it’s a strength, why go away from it ?

Nobody said go away from it nerd. Read things properly. We said when it’s not there, they have nothing and proceed to get their asses stuffed in, like you probably saw last night. Or like you saw many, many times in the playoffs over the last few years. They were at 23 and stayed there for like 10 mins launching dumb three’s. Their post ups are probably Jaylen Brown fade away jumpers. It’s a poorly coached team, with an overwhelming amount of talent beating up on little teams. The last few tough games we have had we lost to OKC, lost 1 of two to the Pacers(insert excuses here), scraped by the Wolves thanks to a nuclear game from Tatum and got obliterated by the Bucks.

What’s their best win on the road this year? Kawhi less Clippers probably? Meh.

The post ups are literally highly efficient Porzingis or Tatum post ups.

Please explain what other mystery offence an NBA team is meant to run.

3s are what dictates games everywhere.

[GWVan]

I had one goal for this game, don't get anyone hurt. Expected the loss. I would have rested KP and JT, but I'm good with no starters in the second half. Good game Joe!

[Sweet Serenity]

He is nowhere near 15th. He is like Darvin Ham bad. Bottom 3 easily.

This is obviously mostly on the players, sure. But why though? It’s a system where if the 3’s don’t fall they have NOTHING else to land on, they don’t play defense if their 3pt shot doesn’t fall and hey..they don’t like teams that push back. It’s why they struggle with teams like Miami and all these teams like the Magic and Minny who come at them like they don’t give a ****.

People get mad when we complain about L’s in January..but it’s not about the L’s. A loss today would be normal. It’s because the L’s always highlight the reasons why we fall short every single damn year.

God these responses are just brain-dead.

We’re like second in the league in post up points.
We’re second in the league in defence.
We blew Orlando out two games in a row.

We shoot a lot of 3s because it’s a strength, why go away from it ?

Nobody said go away from it nerd. Read things properly. We said when it’s not there, they have nothing and proceed to get their asses stuffed in, like you probably saw last night. Or like you saw many, many times in the playoffs over the last few years. They were at 23 and stayed there for like 10 mins launching dumb three’s. Their post ups are probably Jaylen Brown fade away jumpers. It’s a poorly coached team, with an overwhelming amount of talent beating up on little teams. The last few tough games we have had we lost to OKC, lost 1 of two to the Pacers(insert excuses here), scraped by the Wolves thanks to a nuclear game from Tatum and got obliterated by the Bucks.

What’s their best win on the road this year? Kawhi less Clippers probably? Meh.

We’ve had the toughest schedule in the league so far but hey according to genius’ like this one we’re a poorly coached team because we’re not 38-0

[Fantaxp7]

I dunno, this was the definition of a scheduled loss. More effort would have been nice and all but hard to be too upset.

Even if the schedule makers didn't realize Minny would be the best team in the West, why have us travel to play the Bucks when they were sitting around since Monday waiting for us?

Stupid

[ConstableGeneva]

Six of the next seven games are against non-US teams.

[Green89]

If people want Mazzulla gone on the basis of players being fatigued against an elite team on the second night of a back to back then I don’t know what to say.

I would have thought the people complaining about Mazzulla are more focused on his timeouts, emphasis on 3s etc. Haven’t heard much complaining about minutes at all.

If they do want him out on the basis of overplaying starters or not giving the bench enough burn then that’s a pretty bizarre one.

Horford, Pritchard and Hauser are the only 3 guys is be comfortable with seeing minutes in a playoff series. And it’s not like Mazzulla is pulling a Thibs and playing Tatum etc 42 minutes every game.

We have a pretty **** bench and Brad is on record saying he wants to add another wing.

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

Name one contender that regularly plays all 14 guys

The Nuggets have played all 14 players in their last 2 games, and usually always play 9 guys double digit minutes. We usually only ever play 8 guys double digit minutes. We usually only play 9 guys a night. They use like 10-11 every night.

[Romeiro Celtic]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

Except that he never said that. What he said is that keep the starters playing like they have will lead to burn out come playoff time or even possibly stress injuries. You should know better than what you just typed.

Did you not want the team to win against Minnesota? Because if you wanted them to lose, playing Payton Pritchard more seems like a good idea.

Starters haven’t played a ton this season and they were in an intense game with a contender, you let them play in that scenario and go for the win

Bro, what the **** are you saying? Who's talking about "just" the Minnesota game? It's not all about it or you're so self-centered you have to make everything about the small sample you think it is? Clearly Mazzulla is playing the starters way to much and have no continuity with bench players who happens to be playing well. It's not about "Huh, let's keep playing Payton Pritchard in crunch time now against OKC", what the hell do you think I am? Stop being so pretentious and arrogant with your opinion and start reading what people are saying for at least discussing stuff that make sense.

[BK_2020]

We haven't drafted well and the only draft pick that's giving us decent bench minutes is Pritchard who's already stretched at 20 mpg. Other than Pritchard and Al, our bench is full of undrafted guys plus Svi. The solution is to draft better, not to give a lot of minutes to Svi and Lamar and lose games.

[Sweet Serenity]

Except that he never said that. What he said is that keep the starters playing like they have will lead to burn out come playoff time or even possibly stress injuries. You should know better than what you just typed.

Did you not want the team to win against Minnesota? Because if you wanted them to lose, playing Payton Pritchard more seems like a good idea.

Starters haven’t played a ton this season and they were in an intense game with a contender, you let them play in that scenario and go for the win

Bro, what the **** are you saying? Who's talking about "just" the Minnesota game? It's not all about it or you're so self-centered you have to make everything about the small sample you think it is? Clearly Mazzulla is playing the starters way to much and have no continuity with bench players who happens to be playing well. It's not about "Huh, let's keep playing Payton Pritchard in crunch time now against OKC", what the hell do you think I am? Stop being so pretentious and arrogant with your opinion and start reading what people are saying for at least discussing stuff that make sense.

Starters minutes this year:
Tatum - 36
Brown - 33.7
Holiday - 34.1
White - 32
Porzingis - 29.7

That’s too many minutes ??
The hell are we talking about lol

[Sweet Serenity]

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

Name one contender that regularly plays all 14 guys

The Nuggets have played all 14 players in their last 2 games, and usually always play 9 guys double digit minutes. We usually only ever play 8 guys double digit minutes. We usually only play 9 guys a night. They use like 10-11 every night.

If you did your research you’d realise they played 14 because game both were blow outs.
The Nuggets usually only use 9 players in most games.

[BRUNiNHO91]

God these responses are just brain-dead.

We’re like second in the league in post up points.
We’re second in the league in defence.
We blew Orlando out two games in a row.

We shoot a lot of 3s because it’s a strength, why go away from it ?

Nobody said go away from it nerd. Read things properly. We said when it’s not there, they have nothing and proceed to get their asses stuffed in, like you probably saw last night. Or like you saw many, many times in the playoffs over the last few years. They were at 23 and stayed there for like 10 mins launching dumb three’s. Their post ups are probably Jaylen Brown fade away jumpers. It’s a poorly coached team, with an overwhelming amount of talent beating up on little teams. The last few tough games we have had we lost to OKC, lost 1 of two to the Pacers(insert excuses here), scraped by the Wolves thanks to a nuclear game from Tatum and got obliterated by the Bucks.

What’s their best win on the road this year? Kawhi less Clippers probably? Meh.

The post ups are literally highly efficient Porzingis or Tatum post ups.

Please explain what other mystery offence an NBA team is meant to run.

3s are what dictates games everywhere.

Yeah I remember yesterday when they tried to post Porzingis on Lopez. That went down well lol shortly after that they took another 7 three’s before they tried something different lol

Sure 3’s dictate the game, but when you get down and you actively LOOK to shoot them while your opponent is in your jersey, it doesn't work.

[Larry_Russell]

This was always going to be a downfall of this years, and Joes team.


He wants team to push for 40 or more threes a game. It was always the plan. some nights...especially on the 2nd night of a back to back, with a flight, with the previous game going to overtime and the 5th game in 7 nights, the shots are NOT going to fall.

First half team was under 20% from 3 and under 35% from 2. that is tired legs.

[BK_2020]

This was always going to be a downfall of this years, and Joes team.


He wants team to push for 40 or more threes a game. It was always the plan. some nights...especially on the 2nd night of a back to back, with a flight, with the previous game going to overtime and the 5th game in 7 nights, the shots are NOT going to fall.

First half team was under 20% from 3 and under 35% from 2. that is tired legs.

Yeah but tired legs will affect drives to the basket worse than three-point shots.
And for what it's worth, our 3P% is highest on 0 days (.389) rest so far this season, just barely nudging out the 3P% on 3 days rest (.388).

[Celts17Pride]

This happens periodically to every NBA basketball team. Celtics were in 3 cities in 4 nights, playing tough games and it caught up to them. End of story. Don't have to make it bigger than what it is.

Bucks were down 31 point to the Jazz at home the game before the Celtics game.

[GoCeltics123]

I have a serious question to ask everyone on here except I few I won't even bother to reply back.

Do you really think Mazzulla is going to take us to win the NBA title?

In all seriousness. Let's discuss about it.

Lmao the responses to this are going to be unhinged I can't wait

Reality: Joe's like the 15th or so best coach in the league. That's good enough to win a title if the team is in sync and if Tatum is borderline top 5 and Jaylen/KP top 25

He is nowhere near 15th. He is like Darvin Ham bad. Bottom 3 easily.

This is obviously mostly on the players, sure. But why though? It’s a system where if the 3’s don’t fall they have NOTHING else to land on, they don’t play defense if their 3pt shot doesn’t fall and hey..they don’t like teams that push back. It’s why they struggle with teams like Miami and all these teams like the Magic and Minny who come at them like they don’t give a ****.

People get mad when we complain about L’s in January..but it’s not about the L’s. A loss today would be normal. It’s because the L’s always highlight the reasons why we fall short every single damn year.

They would not be 29-9 if he was that bad and the players would've given up on him like they did Ham. Like, this is a joke dude.

Their counter for missing 3s all year was KP in the post and it's worked many times, they've won at least like 5-7 games this year where they've been outshot from 3. You are speaking about a last year thing, not this year.

Like I understand disliking Joe's style but putting him next to Darvin Ham is a complete insult to him, Ham is under .500 with a team that made the WCF last year and his players are openly quitting on him.

Also struggle with the Magic? The same team they blew out twice in Boston, once completely shorthanded? And the Wolves, who have the best defense in the league? Hell they were calling for Chris Finch to be fired last year now look at them.

Joe is not an elite coach but people that say he's a bottom 3 coach are hilarious dude, like if he's bottom 3, then guys like Ham, Vogel, Adrian Griffin, Quin Snyder, Jason Kidd, etc. should be coaching HS ball with the seasons they're having. Joe is average, not elite and people on here that don't watch the rest of the league say he's bottom 3 lmao

[Hal14]

The only thing that has me somewhat worried after last night's game is Andre Jackson Jr was the 8th man in the rotation for Milwaukee.

Which means the Bucks might be following the trend that was set by last season's champs - Denver. Draft a gritty defensive minded wing in the late 1st or early 2nd round, a player who played 3 yrs of college ball, playing a big role in helping their team win the NCAA title as a junior and then that player ends up as their NBA team's 8th man, providing some valuable contributions to help them win the NBA title as a rookie.

Jackson is on an eerily similar path to Braun. Let's hope it doesn't stay that way.

[Hal14]

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

Name one contender that regularly plays all 14 guys

The Nuggets have played all 14 players in their last 2 games, and usually always play 9 guys double digit minutes. We usually only ever play 8 guys double digit minutes. We usually only play 9 guys a night. They use like 10-11 every night.

And we don't know yet which team is gonna end up winning the championship.

DEN relied heavily on just their top 8 guys last season when they won the title, though.

[GoCeltics123]

Nobody said go away from it nerd. Read things properly. We said when it’s not there, they have nothing and proceed to get their asses stuffed in, like you probably saw last night. Or like you saw many, many times in the playoffs over the last few years. They were at 23 and stayed there for like 10 mins launching dumb three’s. Their post ups are probably Jaylen Brown fade away jumpers. It’s a poorly coached team, with an overwhelming amount of talent beating up on little teams. The last few tough games we have had we lost to OKC, lost 1 of two to the Pacers(insert excuses here), scraped by the Wolves thanks to a nuclear game from Tatum and got obliterated by the Bucks.

What’s their best win on the road this year? Kawhi less Clippers probably? Meh.

The post ups are literally highly efficient Porzingis or Tatum post ups.

Please explain what other mystery offence an NBA team is meant to run.

3s are what dictates games everywhere.

Yeah I remember yesterday when they tried to post Porzingis on Lopez. That went down well lol shortly after that they took another 7 three’s before they tried something different lol

Sure 3’s dictate the game, but when you get down and you actively LOOK to shoot them while your opponent is in your jersey, it doesn't work.

Read on Twitter

"In their jersey"

[BRUNiNHO91]

Lmao the responses to this are going to be unhinged I can't wait

Reality: Joe's like the 15th or so best coach in the league. That's good enough to win a title if the team is in sync and if Tatum is borderline top 5 and Jaylen/KP top 25

He is nowhere near 15th. He is like Darvin Ham bad. Bottom 3 easily.

This is obviously mostly on the players, sure. But why though? It’s a system where if the 3’s don’t fall they have NOTHING else to land on, they don’t play defense if their 3pt shot doesn’t fall and hey..they don’t like teams that push back. It’s why they struggle with teams like Miami and all these teams like the Magic and Minny who come at them like they don’t give a ****.

People get mad when we complain about L’s in January..but it’s not about the L’s. A loss today would be normal. It’s because the L’s always highlight the reasons why we fall short every single damn year.

They would not be 29-9 if he was that bad and the players would've given up on him like they did Ham. Like, this is a joke dude.

Their counter for missing 3s all year was KP in the post and it's worked many times, they've won at least like 5-7 games this year where they've been outshot from 3. You are speaking about a last year thing, not this year.

Like I understand disliking Joe's style but putting him next to Darvin Ham is a complete insult to him, Ham is under .500 with a team that made the WCF last year and his players are openly quitting on him.

Also struggle with the Magic? The same team they blew out twice in Boston, once completely shorthanded? And the Wolves, who have the best defense in the league? Hell they were calling for Chris Finch to be fired last year now look at them.

Joe is not an elite coach but people that say he's a bottom 3 coach are hilarious dude, like if he's bottom 3, then guys like Ham, Vogel, Adrian Griffin, Quin Snyder, Jason Kidd, etc. should be coaching HS ball with the seasons they're having. Joe is average, not elite and people on here that don't watch the rest of the league say he's bottom 3 lmao

Players gave up on Brad Stevens and he was a brilliant **** coach. That makes no sense.

Orlando wiped the floor with them last year and beat their asses in the IST again before we got two on them. It’s a team we tend to struggle with, I never said we can’t beat them.

How many of those 5-7 games were against teams worth a damn?

I’m not a believer in the way this team plays and that they can win it with Mazzula. They still run too much iso, they still rely too much on talent, their drop coverage defense is still meh, the new zone thing they ran hasn’t been too effective. People want to talk about the back to back but when we beat Milwaukee last game they mopped us in the 4th and if we had to play another 45 seconds we probably would have lost that also.

We can bring up all the stats in the world to back up everything that has been done, but when the real games come around will those stats last? Because I had similar arguments last year and the stats got brought up, the ‘it’s only January’ excuses got brought up, the ‘they are the best in the NBA, Joe won coach of the month, they are top 2 in defense..bla bla bla. but we all saw what happened in the end and how they died a similar death once again. I want to be wrong, I really do, but I see them dying that death again. But yall do you.

[BRUNiNHO91]

The post ups are literally highly efficient Porzingis or Tatum post ups.

Please explain what other mystery offence an NBA team is meant to run.

3s are what dictates games everywhere.

Yeah I remember yesterday when they tried to post Porzingis on Lopez. That went down well lol shortly after that they took another 7 three’s before they tried something different lol

Sure 3’s dictate the game, but when you get down and you actively LOOK to shoot them while your opponent is in your jersey, it doesn't work.

Read on Twitter

"In their jersey"

You don’t think Milwaukee played great D last night? They were aggressive asf and gave us nothing easy. A lot of those open shots don’t go down because our offensive rhythm was in the toilet. This was not all on Boston, the Bucks came in ready to kill.