Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post)

[Domejandro]

Omitting being 2-1 when Anthony Edwards doesn't play, here are some interesting splits.

Minnesota is 4-0 when Anthony Edwards shoots 15 or less shots.
Minnesota is 7-2 when Anthony Edwards shoots 16 or less shots.
Minnesota is 13-2 when Anthony Edwards shoots 19 or less shots.
Minnesota is 11-8 when Anthony Edwards shoots 20 or more shots.

To put it into easier to read percentages, taking out injured games, Minnesota wins 86.7% of their games when Anthony Edwards shoots less than twenty shots, but plummet to 57.9% when he shoots twenty shoots or more.

Correlation does not prove causation. Ant taking a lot of shots is not a reason we win or lose. Ant takes a lot of shots in games where we are struggling to create offense. He is pretty much our only player who can create offense.

A substantial component of Minnesota's offense being stagnant (especially end of games) is Anthony Edwards' decision making.

[KGdaBom]

Omitting being 2-1 when Anthony Edwards doesn't play, here are some interesting splits.

Minnesota is 4-0 when Anthony Edwards shoots 15 or less shots.
Minnesota is 7-2 when Anthony Edwards shoots 16 or less shots.
Minnesota is 13-2 when Anthony Edwards shoots 19 or less shots.
Minnesota is 11-8 when Anthony Edwards shoots 20 or more shots.

To put it into easier to read percentages, taking out injured games, Minnesota wins 86.7% of their games when Anthony Edwards shoots less than twenty shots, but plummet to 57.9% when he shoots twenty shoots or more.

Correlation does not prove causation. Ant taking a lot of shots is not a reason we win or lose. Ant takes a lot of shots in games where we are struggling to create offense. He is pretty much our only player who can create offense.

A substantial component of Minnesota's offense being stagnant (especially end of games) is Anthony Edwards' decision making.

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

[winforlose]

Correlation does not prove causation. Ant taking a lot of shots is not a reason we win or lose. Ant takes a lot of shots in games where we are struggling to create offense. He is pretty much our only player who can create offense.

A substantial component of Minnesota's offense being stagnant (especially end of games) is Anthony Edwards' decision making.

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

Disagree, I think it is about the other 4 starters and Finch. He needs the balls to start benching Ant when he stop playing team ball.

[twolves31]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-ranking-top-25-players-under-25-2023-24-season/

Hoopshype likes Ant, has him at number 2 of the best players under 25. Surprisingly Naz Reid is number 24 and Jaden missed the cut.

[KGdaBom]

A substantial component of Minnesota's offense being stagnant (especially end of games) is Anthony Edwards' decision making.

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

Disagree, I think it is about the other 4 starters and Finch. He needs the balls to start benching Ant when he stop playing team ball.

You have your right to disagree with me. Disagree all you want.

[Domejandro]

Correlation does not prove causation. Ant taking a lot of shots is not a reason we win or lose. Ant takes a lot of shots in games where we are struggling to create offense. He is pretty much our only player who can create offense.

A substantial component of Minnesota's offense being stagnant (especially end of games) is Anthony Edwards' decision making.

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

It is possible for a player to be one of a team's best players and have problematic tendencies. Anthony Edwards squandering games with selfish play down-the-stretch (an observation that is shared by Coach Finch) is bad and should be improved upon. It is no different than when people (accurately!) commented about how Karl-Anthony Towns' complaining and flailing would lead to transition baskets for the other team.

When Anthony Edwards is making quick decisions and using his athleticism to create for teammates, he is a bonafide superstar. When he is "sizing up" his defender for five seconds and monopolizing the ball, he turns into Antoine Walker.

[KGdaBom]

A substantial component of Minnesota's offense being stagnant (especially end of games) is Anthony Edwards' decision making.

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

It is possible for a player to be one of a team's best players and have problematic tendencies. Anthony Edwards squandering games with selfish play down-the-stretch (an observation that is shared by Coach Finch) is bad and should be improved upon. It is no different than when people (accurately!) commented about how Karl-Anthony Towns' complaining and flailing would lead to transition baskets for the other team.

When Anthony Edwards is making quick decisions and using his athleticism to create for teammates, he is a bonafide superstar. When he is "sizing up" his defender for five seconds and monopolizing the ball, he turns into Antoine Walker.

So is he a strength of our team or a weakness. Don't say both. He is either a part of the problem or a part of the solution. I'm very much in favor of his overall impact on our winning/losing.

[BlacJacMac]

Both can be true.

[Domejandro]

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

It is possible for a player to be one of a team's best players and have problematic tendencies. Anthony Edwards squandering games with selfish play down-the-stretch (an observation that is shared by Coach Finch) is bad and should be improved upon. It is no different than when people (accurately!) commented about how Karl-Anthony Towns' complaining and flailing would lead to transition baskets for the other team.

When Anthony Edwards is making quick decisions and using his athleticism to create for teammates, he is a bonafide superstar. When he is "sizing up" his defender for five seconds and monopolizing the ball, he turns into Antoine Walker.

So is he a strength of our team or a weakness. Don't say both. He is either a part of the problem or a part of the solution. I'm very much in favor of his overall impact on our winning/losing.

Why does analyzing a player have to be black and white? A player can be positive in some ways and have poor tendencies that need to be improved upon.

In general, Anthony Edwards is a net-positive, but he has the capacity to be a MUCH more consistent net-positive if he improves in the problem areas that I have pretty clearly laid out since the beginning of the season.

[KGdaBom]

Both can be true.

Nope. A player is either a net positive or a net negative. Can't be both. It's a mathematical impossibility.

[KGdaBom]

It is possible for a player to be one of a team's best players and have problematic tendencies. Anthony Edwards squandering games with selfish play down-the-stretch (an observation that is shared by Coach Finch) is bad and should be improved upon. It is no different than when people (accurately!) commented about how Karl-Anthony Towns' complaining and flailing would lead to transition baskets for the other team.

When Anthony Edwards is making quick decisions and using his athleticism to create for teammates, he is a bonafide superstar. When he is "sizing up" his defender for five seconds and monopolizing the ball, he turns into Antoine Walker.

So is he a strength of our team or a weakness. Don't say both. He is either a part of the problem or a part of the solution. I'm very much in favor of his overall impact on our winning/losing.

Why does analyzing a player have to be black and white? A player can be positive in some ways and have poor tendencies that need to be improved upon.

In general, Anthony Edwards is a net-positive, but he has the capacity to be a MUCH more consistent net-positive if he improves in the problem areas that I have pretty clearly laid out since the beginning of the season.

Every player in the world has good points and bad points. Every single one. Ant is no exception. It just feels to me that you are constantly complaining about him and don't appreciate him much. That's why I asked the question in a black/white manner. I wanted to hear from you that maybe having Ant on our team is a good thing.

[twolves31]

A substantial component of Minnesota's offense being stagnant (especially end of games) is Anthony Edwards' decision making.

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

It is possible for a player to be one of a team's best players and have problematic tendencies. Anthony Edwards squandering games with selfish play down-the-stretch (an observation that is shared by Coach Finch) is bad and should be improved upon. It is no different than when people (accurately!) commented about how Karl-Anthony Towns' complaining and flailing would lead to transition baskets for the other team.

When Anthony Edwards is making quick decisions and using his athleticism to create for teammates, he is a bonafide superstar. When he is "sizing up" his defender for five seconds and monopolizing the ball, he turns into Antoine Walker.

I think you're worried a little bit too much about a game or two out of a 82 game season. We aren't used to being a great team, and the regular season games used to mean something to us because it was all we had. Ant hasn't been an issue in either playoff series he's been in he has ascended to the moment and improved his game in the playoffs and I don't expect him to be a problem come playoffs time this season.

[Folklore]

Both can be true.

Nope. A player is either a net positive or a net negative. Can't be both. It's a mathematical impossibility.

And there it is folks, there's absolutely no point in having a conversation with this one lol I knew it. When I'm reading posts I know its his based on the first sentence.

[Folklore]

I understand you are not happy with Ant and currently find him one of; if not; the biggest weakness on our team. I think he is arguably our best player. We will go as far as ANT, KAT and Rudy can take us. I think that's a long ways.

It is possible for a player to be one of a team's best players and have problematic tendencies. Anthony Edwards squandering games with selfish play down-the-stretch (an observation that is shared by Coach Finch) is bad and should be improved upon. It is no different than when people (accurately!) commented about how Karl-Anthony Towns' complaining and flailing would lead to transition baskets for the other team.

When Anthony Edwards is making quick decisions and using his athleticism to create for teammates, he is a bonafide superstar. When he is "sizing up" his defender for five seconds and monopolizing the ball, he turns into Antoine Walker.

I think you're worried a little bit too much about a game or two out of a 82 game season. We aren't used to being a great team, and the regular season games used to mean something to us because it was all we had. Ant hasn't been an issue in either playoff series he's been in he has ascended to the moment and improved his game in the playoffs and I don't expect him to be a problem come playoffs time this season.

We have a group of people like some podcast talking heads who think that just because we're doing well some fans cant "complain" about anything anymore because winning somehow equals being immune of criticism. The team is winning games buy the team is far from perfect. There's always room for growth and pointing that out doesn't mean that people don't see the positive improvements.

I hate coming back to post things like this.

[KGdaBom]

Both can be true.

Nope. A player is either a net positive or a net negative. Can't be both. It's a mathematical impossibility.

And there it is folks, there's absolutely no point in having a conversation with this one lol I knew it. When I'm reading posts I know its his based on the first sentence.

I made a mistake and looked at your post. I thought maybe in this instance you would have something to add to the conversation. WOW I couldn't have been more wrong.

[twolves31]

It is possible for a player to be one of a team's best players and have problematic tendencies. Anthony Edwards squandering games with selfish play down-the-stretch (an observation that is shared by Coach Finch) is bad and should be improved upon. It is no different than when people (accurately!) commented about how Karl-Anthony Towns' complaining and flailing would lead to transition baskets for the other team.

When Anthony Edwards is making quick decisions and using his athleticism to create for teammates, he is a bonafide superstar. When he is "sizing up" his defender for five seconds and monopolizing the ball, he turns into Antoine Walker.

I think you're worried a little bit too much about a game or two out of a 82 game season. We aren't used to being a great team, and the regular season games used to mean something to us because it was all we had. Ant hasn't been an issue in either playoff series he's been in he has ascended to the moment and improved his game in the playoffs and I don't expect him to be a problem come playoffs time this season.

We have a group of people like some podcast talking heads who think that just because we're doing well some fans cant "complain" about anything anymore because winning somehow equals being immune of criticism. The team is winning games buy the team is far from perfect. There's always room for growth and pointing that out doesn't mean that people don't see the positive improvements.

I hate coming back to post things like this.

Nowhere did I disagree with complaints I just think there are some posters that only complain and have nothing positive to add about Ant. If I see 6 complaints by the same person but two compliments, I would be perfectly fine with that. I just feel like we have too much toxicity and reddit is far worse than realgm but there is too much negativity for the greatest start in Wolves history and longest streak of being in first place ever in Wolves history. It's amazing to me that rubechat and the old ESPN message board forum are both more level headed than both realgm and reddit lately. (rubechat used to be the worst by a mile) Absolutely there are times I cringe when Ant does something, same with Kat, Jaden, Rudy, etc.

[KGdaBom]

We came from 12 points down in the 2nd quarter to tie the 2nd quarter by halftime. Nice job getting our sheet together.

[KGdaBom]

Uh oh. Toumani Camara taking over.

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[A1FromDay1]

Paid more attention to Ant this game, due to the recent talk about his decision making. He sees the open man every time, I love his decisions. Absolutely not worried about him being a ballhog. He does try to take over when the game is on the line (which wasnt the case now) but that's what he is supposed to be doing anyway. He's finding his limits now and experimenting with the pressure and various end-game situations. I'm sure by next year he will improve a lot in this aspect too, just like he does on everything else.