2023-24 NBA Season Discussion

[sp6r=underrated]

Michael Jordan was an ATG historic athlete. Phil Jackson was an ATG historic coach. But both were petty. Both were self aggrandizing. And that display in Chicago tonight was primarily their fault.

Also Bulls fans who don't understand what Krause did for their franchise are dolts. Fans who don't realize he was the face of the boss's decision are children.

[SportsGuru08]

Michael Jordan was an ATG historic athlete. Phil Jackson was an ATG historic coach. But both were petty. Both were self aggrandizing. And that display in Chicago tonight was primarily their fault.

Also Bulls fans who don't understand what Krause did for their franchise are dolts. Fans who don't realize he was the face of the boss's decision are children.

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

[sp6r=underrated]

Michael Jordan was an ATG historic athlete. Phil Jackson was an ATG historic coach. But both were petty. Both were self aggrandizing. And that display in Chicago tonight was primarily their fault.

Also Bulls fans who don't understand what Krause did for their franchise are dolts. Fans who don't realize he was the face of the boss's decision are children.

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

Let's accept for sake of discussion your right he was a below average GM. You're wrong but let's accept it for sake of discussion.

1. Why do you boo a widow?
2. How do you as a fan not realize the owner was the one who pushed breaking up the team?

[SportsGuru08]

Michael Jordan was an ATG historic athlete. Phil Jackson was an ATG historic coach. But both were petty. Both were self aggrandizing. And that display in Chicago tonight was primarily their fault.

Also Bulls fans who don't understand what Krause did for their franchise are dolts. Fans who don't realize he was the face of the boss's decision are children.

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

Let's accept for sake of discussion your right he was a below average GM. You're wrong but let's accept it for sake of discussion.

1. Why do you boo a widow?
2. How do you as a fan not realize the owner was the one who pushed breaking up the team?

They weren't booing her, they were booing who she represented. Since her insecure, petty, vindictive, tub-of-lard-big-enough-to-be-his-own-ZIP code husband couldn't attend due to a bad case of death, she's the next best thing.

[Clyde Frazier]

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

Let's accept for sake of discussion your right he was a below average GM. You're wrong but let's accept it for sake of discussion.

1. Why do you boo a widow?
2. How do you as a fan not realize the owner was the one who pushed breaking up the team?

They weren't booing her, they were booing who she represented. Since her insecure, petty, vindictive, tub-of-lard-big-enough-to-be-his-own-ZIP code husband couldn't attend due to a bad case of death, she's the next best thing.

Informal warning: at best these are insensitive remarks. If you want to talk about why you think krause wasn't a good GM, by all means go ahead. Otherwise keep it respectful.

[sp6r=underrated]

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

Let's accept for sake of discussion your right he was a below average GM. You're wrong but let's accept it for sake of discussion.

1. Why do you boo a widow?
2. How do you as a fan not realize the owner was the one who pushed breaking up the team?

They weren't booing her, they were booing who she represented. Since her insecure, petty, vindictive, tub-of-lard-big-enough-to-be-his-own-ZIP code husband couldn't attend due to a bad case of death, she's the next best thing.

I wouldn't say it to your parents face but they were failures in raising their son.

[MartinToVaught]

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

He still helped bring six rings to the Bulls even though his tenure didn't end well. If a GM even brought one ring to the Clippers, we'd be building a statue the next day.

That was a classless display no matter how you want to rationalize it. It was the product of an entitled fanbase and Jordan's extreme narcissism. Meanwhile, the guy who actually ruined the team - the owner - is busy counting the money he made from the tickets these idiots bought so they could boo someone who had nothing to do with it instead.

[Colbinii]

Let's accept for sake of discussion your right he was a below average GM. You're wrong but let's accept it for sake of discussion.

1. Why do you boo a widow?
2. How do you as a fan not realize the owner was the one who pushed breaking up the team?

They weren't booing her, they were booing who she represented. Since her insecure, petty, vindictive, tub-of-lard-big-enough-to-be-his-own-ZIP code husband couldn't attend due to a bad case of death, she's the next best thing.

I wouldn't say it to your parents face but they were failures in raising their son.

I think they got all they could out of him. Can't teach stupid.

[sp6r=underrated]

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

He still helped bring six rings to the Bulls even though his tenure didn't end well. If a GM even brought one ring to the Clippers, we'd be building a statue the next day.

That was a classless display no matter how you want to rationalize it. It was the product of an entitled fanbase and Jordan's extreme narcissism. Meanwhile, the guy who actually ruined the team - the owner - is busy counting the money he made from the tickets these idiots bought so they could boo someone who had nothing to do with it instead.

Yup, I say there is one other factor in play: weather.

I don't think it is a coincidence that the cities with fair weather cultures generally have pleasant weather and the cities where you get people being booed on stretchers have bad weather.

[HeartBreakKid]

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

He still helped bring six rings to the Bulls even though his tenure didn't end well. If a GM even brought one ring to the Clippers, we'd be building a statue the next day.

That was a classless display no matter how you want to rationalize it. It was the product of an entitled fanbase and Jordan's extreme narcissism. Meanwhile, the guy who actually ruined the team - the owner - is busy counting the money he made from the tickets these idiots bought so they could boo someone who had nothing to do with it instead.

Yup, I say there is one other factor in play: weather.

I don't think it is a coincidence that the cities with fair weather cultures generally have pleasant weather and the cities where you get people being booed on stretchers have bad weather.

It's a coincidence (most NBA teams are in cities with winters and basketball in general is more popular in those cities).

I don't think people in Vermont, Toronto, or Stockholm are going to boo hurt people like someone in Philadelphia. I could be wrong, but it wouldn't be my first guess.

[jalengreen]

Probably agree with that top 6; expect the Pelicans to be in the play-in and lose out to at least one more experienced team — and that should be what the Lakers/Warriors/Suns want, because if it happens to be the Mavericks who slide down a bit, then you feel a lot less confident about “experience” winning out.

New Orleans would have been a perfect OG Team. Offer up Murphy III + McCollum instead of Quickley + Barrett.

Curious as to your reasoning here. Pels guard situation after this would be even more yikes.

[jalengreen]

He still helped bring six rings to the Bulls even though his tenure didn't end well. If a GM even brought one ring to the Clippers, we'd be building a statue the next day.

That was a classless display no matter how you want to rationalize it. It was the product of an entitled fanbase and Jordan's extreme narcissism. Meanwhile, the guy who actually ruined the team - the owner - is busy counting the money he made from the tickets these idiots bought so they could boo someone who had nothing to do with it instead.

Yup, I say there is one other factor in play: weather.

I don't think it is a coincidence that the cities with fair weather cultures generally have pleasant weather and the cities where you get people being booed on stretchers have bad weather.

It's a coincidence (most NBA teams are in cities with winters and basketball in general is more popular in those cities).

I don't think people in Vermont, Toronto, or Stockholm are going to boo hurt people like someone in Philadelphia. I could be wrong, but it wouldn't be my first guess.

Well they didn't BOO durant but...

[MartinToVaught]

Krause whiffed on more picks than he succeeded on. The last 5 years of his tenure as the GM exposed him as a fraud who benefited from MJ and Phil.

He still helped bring six rings to the Bulls even though his tenure didn't end well. If a GM even brought one ring to the Clippers, we'd be building a statue the next day.

That was a classless display no matter how you want to rationalize it. It was the product of an entitled fanbase and Jordan's extreme narcissism. Meanwhile, the guy who actually ruined the team - the owner - is busy counting the money he made from the tickets these idiots bought so they could boo someone who had nothing to do with it instead.

Yup, I say there is one other factor in play: weather.

I don't think it is a coincidence that the cities with fair weather cultures generally have pleasant weather and the cities where you get people being booed on stretchers have bad weather.

Not sure about that. There's some awful fanbases on the west coast too. And the SEC fanbases down south are nuts. People just have a worse mental image of cold-weather fanbases on the east coast because New York, Philly and Boston have uniquely toxic local media.

[sp6r=underrated]

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This is awful. It is pretty crazy how bad the Pistons are this year.

[Special_Puppy]

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This is awful. It is pretty crazy how bad the Pistons are this year.

The fruits of 3 years of tanking

[sp6r=underrated]

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This is awful. It is pretty crazy how bad the Pistons are this year.

The fruits of 3 years of tanking

The Pistons are a good example of how the interests of owners don't align with fan interests.

The NBA CBA is bad for basketball fans and what makes it bad are the policies the owners pushed for hard. The owners prioritized reducing labor costs in the 1999 and 2012 lockouts. And to reduce labor costs they needed to divide the union.

The owners got the players to accept a lower share of basketball income. In return, the owners gave the median player a pay increase via rookie salary caps, maximum individual salaries and maximum contract lengths.

All of these policies made building a contender via free agency basically impossible for most NBA franchises given that superstars are groosly underpaid due to maximum salaries. And maximum individual salaries inflated the value of superstars in the most superstar centric team sport.

[clearlynotjesse]

Round 2 of the West is gonna be so good

[GSP]

Round 2 of the West is gonna be so good

Round 2? How about round 1?........

Nuggets, Clippers, Thunder, Wolves, Mavs, Suns, Pels, Lakers, Kings

One of those teams is missing it.........Warriors MIGHT just sneak in can never count em out

Spurs, Blazers, Grizzlies wont do anything. Rockets and Jazz wont make it but theyre tough

[70sFan]

Jokic turning himself into Moses Malone was very fun to watch, but overall Embiid just abused the Nuggets. I'm hoping he'll keep that form for the playoffs, for now he looks completely unstoppable.

[Peregrine01]

Jokic turning himself into Moses Malone was very fun to watch, but overall Embiid just abused the Nuggets. I'm hoping he'll keep that form for the playoffs, for now he looks completely unstoppable.

The turning point of the game was when Pat Bev was put on Murray. Completely stalled the Nuggets offense (just 15 pts in the 4th) cause Murray was having trouble just bringing the ball up the court. Yet another example of how important point of attack defense can be.