Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?

[bluerap23]

Reassuring to know that 2/3 of this board is rational

[Pointgod]

Oh yeah, the Knicks are gonna trade a player still on their rookie deal who in his 3rd yr ended up 2nd in voting for 6moy, they were gonna trade him away before trying to resign him, which they tried to this past summer.

No, we couldn't of gotten Quickly last year for OG.

Think about what you’re arguing right now. You seriously think that we couldn’t get a bench player for an all NBA team defensive team starter who’s one of the most coveted 3 and D players in the league? Chances are the Knicks weren’t going to resign Quickley, they put him in a deal for Donovan Mitchell, you really believe that if we had asked them for Quickley and picks and they can keep RJ they wouldn’t sign up for that in .05 seconds?

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-missed-out-on-donovan-mitchell-trade-because-they-refused-to-include-quentin-grimes-in-deal-per-report/

OG was a highly sought after player at last year’s trade deadline. We have multiple reports that there were teams making offer and looking to trade for him. Remeber how this quote lit the board on fire?

The Toronto Raptors could get a major haul if they decide to trade OG Anunoby, according to ESPN's Zach Lowe.

"The entire league wants OG Anunoby," Lowe said on The Lowe Post podcast (h/t All Raptors) "Everybody wants OG Anunoby. If he ever gets traded, the price and picks are going to surprise people because it might be on par almost with what the Cavs gave up for Donovan Mitchell. It's going to be a lot if it ever happens."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10059266-nba-rumors-raptors-og-anunoby-trade-value-compared-to-donovan-mitchell-haul

Or how about this other report last year from Lowe?

They offered three first-round picks to the Toronto Raptors for OG Anunoby, sources said, but Anunoby remains a Raptor. The Indiana Pacers also offered three first-round picks for Anunoby, sources said, but could not get a deal done. (The Pacers own extra picks from Boston and the Cleveland Cavaliers.) The Raptors made it clear in trade talks they wanted a high-level player or prospect along with draft picks in any Anunoby deal, sources said. The New Orleans Pelicans, another rumored Anunoby suitor, did not hold serious talks about him with the Raptors, sources said.

[url][/https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/35627654/championship-bust-new-look-west-suns-all-gamble-kevin-durant [url]

I got another one from Jake Fischer last year too

The Pelicans, Grizzlies, Knicks, Pacers, Trail Blazers, Lakers, Suns and Nets have all been linked to Anunoby in recent days, though the Raptors, sources said, have communicated asking prices that rival front offices think quite steep.

Shams also indicated there was a lot of interest for him as well last season.

Read on Twitter

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So last year we had multiple reports that there were tons of teams interested and making offers, but you mean to tell me that Knicks would let Quickley be the deal breaker to get one of the most coveted players in the league, even though they had put Quickley in the Donovan Mitchell trade? We have multiple reports saying the Raptors wanted a high level player or a prospect with multiple picks and there were teams willing to meet those demands but somehow waiting to trade him this season got us the better deal even though we didn’t get a single first and took on a potentially bad contract in RJ Barrett?

let me guess it’s all fake news and these reporters are just making things up because there’s a conspiracy against the Raptors.

You’re actually indirectly supporting our case. The offers last year for OG are stated in the very links that you posted. The FRPs are of low quality with some of them at a risk of never conveying. Quickley is a much better asset.

You can say Masai got lucky, that’s fine. But you can’t say he could’ve got better offers last year because that is simply not true.

Umm you think picks were the best offer or the initial offers at the deadline, expecting that Masai would negotiate? There’s a disconnect if you believe that OG was the highest sought after free agent last year and the best offers that a team would have given was just protected picks. Zach Lowe even said that OG could return a Donovan Mitchell type package which as we all know is not 3 picks protected picks. What Mitchell basically returned was the type of value Masai was looking to get for OG. You’re stuck on the picks part of the reporting because it’s a convenient way to say “Oh teams were only offering low picks” when we know that was their initial offer and Masai wasn’t interested in negotiating last season thinking those same deals would be available later which isn’t the case

[Los_29]

Think about what you’re arguing right now. You seriously think that we couldn’t get a bench player for an all NBA team defensive team starter who’s one of the most coveted 3 and D players in the league? Chances are the Knicks weren’t going to resign Quickley, they put him in a deal for Donovan Mitchell, you really believe that if we had asked them for Quickley and picks and they can keep RJ they wouldn’t sign up for that in .05 seconds?

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-missed-out-on-donovan-mitchell-trade-because-they-refused-to-include-quentin-grimes-in-deal-per-report/

OG was a highly sought after player at last year’s trade deadline. We have multiple reports that there were teams making offer and looking to trade for him. Remeber how this quote lit the board on fire?



https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10059266-nba-rumors-raptors-og-anunoby-trade-value-compared-to-donovan-mitchell-haul

Or how about this other report last year from Lowe?



[url][/https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/35627654/championship-bust-new-look-west-suns-all-gamble-kevin-durant [url]

I got another one from Jake Fischer last year too



Shams also indicated there was a lot of interest for him as well last season.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

So last year we had multiple reports that there were tons of teams interested and making offers, but you mean to tell me that Knicks would let Quickley be the deal breaker to get one of the most coveted players in the league, even though they had put Quickley in the Donovan Mitchell trade? We have multiple reports saying the Raptors wanted a high level player or a prospect with multiple picks and there were teams willing to meet those demands but somehow waiting to trade him this season got us the better deal even though we didn’t get a single first and took on a potentially bad contract in RJ Barrett?

let me guess it’s all fake news and these reporters are just making things up because there’s a conspiracy against the Raptors.

You’re actually indirectly supporting our case. The offers last year for OG are stated in the very links that you posted. The FRPs are of low quality with some of them at a risk of never conveying. Quickley is a much better asset.

You can say Masai got lucky, that’s fine. But you can’t say he could’ve got better offers last year because that is simply not true.

Exactly, even in there it says Raptors want a high level prospect + picks for OG and then proceeded to list traded that offered picks and no prospects, and those picks we came to find out would've been low trash picks.
A yr later he got his high level prospect, "the toxic contract" that just beat the GSW on the road and high 2nd

Again I'd much rather have what we got than those rumors

Exactly. It’s wild that people would prefer those poo poo platters than getting a legitimate, young prospect with upside and a former top 3 pick who is just 23. I’m not a fan of RJ but he would be better than anyone we got with those terrible picks.

[billy_hoyle]

It's a 5 game hot streak for RJ now. Has looked good in all the games IMO.

Quick also looks really dynamic.

You only need like 8-9 good players. Am I starting to believe in this team? They are basically undefeated since the trade (save for ref bias). They also just look very complete. That's with Dick doing absolutely jack.

Are we a stretch big away from something decent here? Starting to feel a little Rudy Gay trade to me.

[2019nbachamps]

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[Appostis]

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6 game West road trip that could of easily been 4-2 even with injuries?

[Los_29]

This thread aged nicely

6 game West road trip that could of easily been 4-2 even with injuries?

We were in every game except for last night. should’ve been 3-3 as well. This road trip made me more optimistic about this team.

[refshateRaps]

Because wasting 3 season to pick a direction was a great move?

We still sit out of the playoffs but, the team can atleast sell hopium to the willing fans again.

More importantly still have not addressed the main issue and I hope the Pascal trade does that or we we will be back in the Demar /Lowry years with this squad

[Duffman100]

This thread aged nicely

Isn’t the entire point of selling OG and Siakam to get younger players. And then expected to lose games. Isn’t that what you’ve been clamouring for ?

[2019nbachamps]

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Isn’t the entire point of selling OG and Siakam to get younger players. And then expected to lose games. Isn’t that what you’ve been clamouring for ?

The premise of the thread is our FO knows what they’re doing. Our record this season and last indicates otherwise. We have a ways to go before declaring victory.

[Duffman100]

This thread aged nicely

Isn’t the entire point of selling OG and Siakam to get younger players. And then expected to lose games. Isn’t that what you’ve been clamouring for ?

The premise of the thread is our FO knows what they’re doing. Our record this season and last indicates otherwise. We have a ways to go before declaring victory.

So record matters now? I thought the idea was to acquire young pieces to fit Scotties timeline and record didn’t matter.

[2019nbachamps]

Isn’t the entire point of selling OG and Siakam to get younger players. And then expected to lose games. Isn’t that what you’ve been clamouring for ?

The premise of the thread is our FO knows what they’re doing. Our record this season and last indicates otherwise. We have a ways to go before declaring victory.

So record matters now? I thought the idea was to acquire young pieces to fit Scotties timeline and record didn’t matter.

I don’t understand what you’re arguing.

You think our FO traded for Poeltl to be in the position we’re in today? Our FO is clearly driven by winning now and they’re failing.

The OG trade was a function of their failure. They’ll also have to trade Siakam.

Even still, the goal at the end of the day is to win, not to score brownie points on realgm. Let’s wait and see how this team trends before declaring victory 2 games after a trade.

[ItsDanger]

Perhaps waiting a little longer before starting these kind of threads would be prudent in this situation.

[Merit]

The premise of the thread is our FO knows what they’re doing. Our record this season and last indicates otherwise. We have a ways to go before declaring victory.

So record matters now? I thought the idea was to acquire young pieces to fit Scotties timeline and record didn’t matter.

I don’t understand what you’re arguing.

You think our FO traded for Poeltl to be in the position we’re in today? Our FO is clearly driven by winning now and they’re failing.

The OG trade was a function of their failure. They’ll also have to trade Siakam.

Even still, the goal at the end of the day is to win, not to score brownie points on realgm. Let’s wait and see how this team trends before declaring victory 2 games after a trade.

If you can’t see that trade was a win/win I don’t know what to tell you.

[Merit]

Perhaps waiting a little longer before starting these kind of threads would be prudent in this situation.

I’ll put myself out there and say trading OG was the right decision. I’ll just do it now before we see what OG gets paid compared to what IQ does.

[StopitLeo]

Perhaps waiting a little longer before starting these kind of threads would be prudent in this situation.

The thread should really be titled: “Can we acknowledge that taking the risk of being patient when trading OG appears to have worked out well?”

[Vampirate]

This thread aged nicely

Isn’t the entire point of selling OG and Siakam to get younger players. And then expected to lose games. Isn’t that what you’ve been clamouring for ?

Well half of that has transpired, the other half remains to be seen (Siakam)

[DelAbbot]

Another premature thread

This return for Siakam has two 2024 FRPs which Bobby keeps calling a weak draft



Masai,

[Raps in 4]

No, we can't. We absolutely could have gotten more value for Siakam if we traded him earlier like everyone here here wanted.