Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Deni, we hardly knew ye....

Next!

Someone always comes next and as we have just seen,
iMuscala and Gallo are now on the market.

[brackdan70]

Pritchard, kornet, brissett, Walsh, 1st, two 2nds for Dejounte Murray.

He can be the super 6th man, knocking Hauser and Horford down to 7th and 8th men. Stevens and Queta step into the Kornet/Brissett minutes.

Does this work as legal trade?

Edit. Just checked. Murray makes over 18 million. That trade won’t work.

It worked in the trade checker... not that it's 100%.

The trade checker doesn’t work. It’s not updated. It has Boston operating as a below the cap team.

We can only take back 110% of outgoing salary

[chakdaddy]

So Gallo and Burks gonna ask out to play for a contender AKA Celtics?

Celtics can go after Gallo if he is bought out?

No reason for the Pistons to buy out guys they just used assets to acquire. I get that they are completely shooting deprived so Gallo and Muscala make some conceptual sense but I feel like that could be adressed in a smarter way than throwing away picks to get those two guys on expiring deals. But what do I know, I've never turned a NBA franchise into the worst team of all time after all.

The Pistons would not have used assets to acquire those vets, even though their shooting fills a need. The trade was to dump Bagley's contract.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Would like Muscala back. Gallo if waived sure…

[playa-hater]

Can Gallo play beyond regular season minutes?? Signing Gallo would be a nice insurance policy and a feel good story. But Maybe Gallo is still pissed!

I like Muscala for spacing reasons as well. But just a regular season player. Wouldn't see him in the playoffs.

[JaMarco]

Can Gallo play beyond regular season minutes?? Signing Gallo would be a nice insurance policy and a feel good story. But Maybe Gallo is still pissed!

I like Muscala for spacing reasons as well. But just a regular season player. Wouldn't see him in the playoffs.

I don't think anyone the Cs acquire at this point would be a major playoff rotation player, the point is just depth.

[Dogen]

Gallo doesn't fit into the TPE, but since he moved teams, Celtics can now trade for him. Svi, Lamar, Dalano + 2nd.

I think he'd want to come back. Brad can say this was the plan all along ; )

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Celtics could now trade for both Muscala and Gallo: They Are Eligible:

Read on Twitter

So why exactly is this trade noteworthy potentially from a Celtics perspective? It all comes down to an NBA CBA rule. Boston dealt away Muscala and Gallinari to the Wizards back in June as part of the three-team deal that helped land Kristaps Porzingis with the Celtics. Upon trading both players away, the Celtics were no longer eligible to acquire Gallinari or Muscala for the next season via a Wizards trade or a buyout.


That equation changes now though in the wake of the Pistons deal. Since both forwards are now with a new team, the Celtics technically are eligible to trade for either player. They could also technically re-sign either player if they reach a buyout with the Pistons.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Gallo doesn't fit into the TPE, but since he moved teams, Celtics can now trade for him. Svi, Lamar, Dalano + 2nd.

I think he'd want to come back. Brad can say this was the plan all along ; )

You beat me by less than a minute.

[Dogen]

Gallo doesn't fit into the TPE, but since he moved teams, Celtics can now trade for him. Svi, Lamar, Dalano + 2nd.

I think he'd want to come back. Brad can say this was the plan all along ; )

You beat me by less than a minute.

I finally got a scoop!

Really, though, this does seem a bit suspicious. I can't see why Detroit would keep either player. They really want a disgruntled 35yo Gallo playing for a 3 win team? Gallo got injured before last season playing for Italy. That's on him, not the Celtics. He rehabbed all year, but when the Porzingis trade came up, who doesn't do that trade? He could return to a team that is even better than the one that he left, and still be a solid vet contributor. I think he'd be thrilled to be back as he could win a title this year with his favorite team growing up.

Muscala, he fits into the TPE. I guess Gallo is the "big wing" Brad wants, and Muscala gives the team some veteran size for the regular season, and an extra 3pt shooterthat can fill in for Kris and Al on their "days off".

[31to6]

Gallo is cooked and he hasn't logged a minute at the '3' since the 2018-19 season, per BballRef. Muscala might not be as completely cooked, but I don't see how either guy is worth a roster spot, even a vacant one, for regular season minutes.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Gallo doesn't fit into the TPE, but since he moved teams, Celtics can now trade for him. Svi, Lamar, Dalano + 2nd.

I think he'd want to come back. Brad can say this was the plan all along ; )

You beat me by less than a minute.

I finally got a scoop!

Really, though, this does seem a bit suspicious. I can't see why Detroit would keep either player. They really want a disgruntled 35yo Gallo playing for a 3 win team? Gallo got injured before last season playing for Italy. That's on him, not the Celtics. He rehabbed all year, but when the Porzingis trade came up, who doesn't do that trade? He could return to a team that is even better than the one that he left, and still be a solid vet contributor. I think he'd be thrilled to be back as he could win a title this year with his favorite team growing up.

Muscala, he fits into the TPE. I guess Gallo is the "big wing" Brad wants, and Muscala gives the team some veteran size for the regular season, and an extra 3pt shooterthat can fill in for Kris and Al on their "days off".

They're definitely moving them out and may showcase them to Contending Teams trying to receive something in return,
before they waive them. But then again, this is Depressing Detroit so they may screw the thing up hold onto
them unnecessarily.

Gallo and Muscala would be upgrades over several of the end of the bench guys.

[Dogen]

Gallo is cooked and he hasn't logged a minute at the '3' since the 2018-19 season, per BballRef. Muscala might not be as completely cooked, but I don't see how either guy is worth a roster spot, even a vacant one, for regular season minutes.

The guys we have now haven't even made it to the stove yet. Totally raw. So replacing a few of those guys with a vet that can play a little in reg season and have a flashback game or two in the playoffs is worth consideration. You think Gallo has been playing hard in Washington? Or saving what's left in the tank?

Completely agree about the small forward though. He's not going to be able to defend the quicker wings out there, but is a decent stretch 4 type. Celtics could augment Gallo by having another move for quicker defensive wing.

[165bows]

Gallo is cooked and he hasn't logged a minute at the '3' since the 2018-19 season, per BballRef. Muscala might not be as completely cooked, but I don't see how either guy is worth a roster spot, even a vacant one, for regular season minutes.

Idk I think Muscala might be farther down the cooked scale. Not sure if it was the ankle injury he had here or what.

[Fierce1]

Wendell Carter Jr. made available.

Don't know if he's worth pursuing.

[Fierce1]

Checked the trade checker and it's look like Carter Jr.'s contract is too big if the Cs don't include any of the top 8 core players.

I don't know why Orlando is giving up on Carter Jr., but he could be a potential replacement for Al.

[31to6]

Checked the trade checker and it's look like Carter Jr.'s contract is too big if the Cs don't include any of the top 8 core players.

I don't know why Orlando is giving up on Carter Jr., but he could be a potential replacement for Al.

I've wanted him for that role since he was a senior in HS, but yeah we don't have a way to get him right now, and I'm honestly unsure if he's developing into the NBA player I'd imagined. Sort of -- but unsure.

I doubt ORL is giving up on him, though with Bitadze as their only other 'true' center (I think Isaac is more of a 4) I don't know why they'd test the waters on WCJ. Maybe they feel he can't stay healthy, or they're sensing now is time to cash in on him if he's going to be in the shadows of Banchero, Franz, and .. their guards.

[31to6]

Gallo is cooked and he hasn't logged a minute at the '3' since the 2018-19 season, per BballRef. Muscala might not be as completely cooked, but I don't see how either guy is worth a roster spot, even a vacant one, for regular season minutes.

The guys we have now haven't even made it to the stove yet. Totally raw. So replacing a few of those guys with a vet that can play a little in reg season and have a flashback game or two in the playoffs is worth consideration. You think Gallo has been playing hard in Washington? Or saving what's left in the tank?

Completely agree about the small forward though. He's not going to be able to defend the quicker wings out there, but is a decent stretch 4 type. Celtics could augment Gallo by having another move for quicker defensive wing.

At the 3/4 I'm totally happy with Hauser, Stevens, and Brissett over the last days of Gallo and Muscala.

At the 5 I'm also content with Kornet and Queta.

IDC what Gallo has been doing in Washington, but I will look it up: 26gp, 15mpg, 43/31/84, 88% at the 5, 12% at the 4, -2.8 BPM, -0.1 VORP, 0.07 WS/48. You asked if I think he's playing hard to get those numbers or saving what's left in the tank and I truly do not care -- current roster is good but the nature of the beast is we'll have a few days to a week of 'maybe we can get Gallo back now' posts, which are on par with 'How about Boogie?' for me. I'd rather develop the younger assets we already have than dream that Gallo might have a flashback game or two in the playoffs, which I'd put at really low odds.

[snowman]

Obviously, I'm not trading any of our top 6. Also, I really don't consider Hauser and Pritchard untouchable, but it would take a massive overpay to get them. Kornet and Brissett have really stepped it up and it's hard to ask for more from your 9 and 10 players. I think that Queta is going to be our 4th big / 11th man after the trade deadline is over. I also don't see Walsh going anywhere either. That leaves, in my mind anyway, Svi, Stevens and Banton, our 6.2 mil TPE and our 1st round pick (currently number 30) to upgrade / reinforce the bench. I don't see any of Svi, Stevens or Banton being moved out as a package, because then we would have to replace them and drive the payroll up even further. I could see one of Svi, Stevens or Banton being moved for a 2nd, then taking back a player in a 2nd trade for our TPE and our 1st round pick.

An example ONLY.
Stevens to Atlanta for a 2nd round pick, Saddiq Bey from Atlanta (making less than 6.2 mil) taking into our TPE for pick # 30.

[Parliament10]

Gallo is cooked and he hasn't logged a minute at the '3' since the 2018-19 season, per BballRef. Muscala might not be as completely cooked, but I don't see how either guy is worth a roster spot, even a vacant one, for regular season minutes.

The guys we have now haven't even made it to the stove yet. Totally raw. So replacing a few of those guys with a vet that can play a little in reg season and have a flashback game or two in the playoffs is worth consideration. You think Gallo has been playing hard in Washington? Or saving what's left in the tank?

Completely agree about the small forward though. He's not going to be able to defend the quicker wings out there, but is a decent stretch 4 type. Celtics could augment Gallo by having another move for quicker defensive wing.

At the 3/4 I'm totally happy with Hauser, Stevens, and Brissett over the last days of Gallo and Muscala.

At the 5 I'm also content with Kornet and Queta.

IDC what Gallo has been doing in Washington, but I will look it up: 26gp, 15mpg, 43/31/84, 88% at the 5, 12% at the 4, -2.8 BPM, -0.1 VORP, 0.07 WS/48. You asked if I think he's playing hard to get those numbers or saving what's left in the tank and I truly do not care -- current roster is good but the nature of the beast is we'll have a few days to a week of 'maybe we can get Gallo back now' posts, which are on par with 'How about Boogie?' for me. I'd rather develop the younger assets we already have than dream that Gallo might have a flashback game or two in the playoffs, which I'd put at really low odds.

Totally Agreed with this. If a worthwhile trade comes along, then do it. But, this ain't that Trade.