Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

[Celts17Pride]

Prediction: Grizzlies will be our trade partner.

That's what I am afraid of, there is nothing over there available that will be really helpful.

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If the Celtics make any addition that’s not completely an injury insurance , Pritchard is going to be a problem in the locker room . Any addition bleeding into his minutes and he’s not going to be happy and he may voice it publicly.

If we get a guard who's better than Pritchard, then Pritchard is probably getting moved in the deal.

It's probably a moot point, though. Rumor has it, Brad is looking to acquire a big wing, rather than a guard.

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Will the Griz give up Tillman when they are lacking bigs?

Probably not. Unless they get another big in the deal (or in a different deal).

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Prediction: Grizzlies will be our trade partner.

What's the deal with this Ziaire Williams character? Outside of the guys we've already discussed (Konchar, Tillman, Aldama), he's the only other one that fits. He does fit that big wing profile.

He's in the romeo Langford mold. Highly touted recruit coming out of HS. Meh freshman season but still went in the lottery because of the upside. But 3 years in the league and he hasn't done much (partly due to injuries, partly due to being not that good)..

[djFan71]

Yeah, for a 3rd PG, PP is good enough.

To upgrade from PP will be too costly.

JT can defend PGs and SGs.

So I'd rather the Cs get another big or a PF that can defend Giannis.

If Al goes down, the Cs don't have Grant or Ojeleye anymore.

Both those guys had moments, but were for the most part over-rated on their ability to stop him. Nobody can - much less a guy that you find for less that than it costs to upgrade PP. Stevens is probably the closest to them on the roster, but he can't get time. And, sure if we can find someone, great, lol.

As for PP defense - it's not about finding guys to defend PGs and SGs. It's about your 8th guy not getting played off the floor when defenses force the switch on him over and over and over and over. We need an 8th guy that can stay out there. Maybe Pritchard can, or at least can score more than he gives up.

I'm just happier with our forwards/bigs depth than I am with the Pritchard as our only reserve guard. Heck, even just augmenting Prichard instead of replacing him is a good step, imo.

I think the arrangement with PP is he agreed to sign an extension because he was assured of becoming the 3rd PG on the depth chart.

That's why he didn't ask to be traded anymore.

Adding another PG who will dislodge PP as the 8th man will not sit well with PP.

We've seen PP play in the east finals and finals in 2022.
I think he's better now and is good enough for this current Celtics team.

It's true some teams, like Miami, will hunt PP on defense.
But so far this season, that has not been a problem.

There's still time as the trade deadline is still a little less than a month away.

My guess is PP has done enough to earn that 8th man spot.

Regarding the insurance for Al at the 4 spot, if the Hawks are serious in saying only Trae and Jalen Johnson are untouchable, I think Saddiq Bey can be acquired at a reasonable price.

Just not sure if Bey can really defend Giannis like Grant Williams.
But Bey certainly has the tools to guard Giannis.

The most realistic scenario is like what Parl said, Brad will just see who's available in the buyout market.

I agree it's unlikely, just that, while still good, he's our weakest link of the top 8 to me.
Just like you're saying with Al, if one of Jrue/White go down, we're in even worse shape.

[djFan71]

The Tinkle God is grossly underrated here. He's having a fantastic season and the last game was a semi-masterclass in PG
efficiency, play, distribution, ball movement... and striking back at Evil Ime with the Alley Oop.

Like Frampton, five decades earlier, Payton has come alive... and I for one welcome our new PG Overlord! You can
never have enough of them...

He's doing well for sure. Just still the weakest of the top 8. Tough competition.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

The Tinkle God is grossly underrated here. He's having a fantastic season and the last game was a semi-masterclass in PG
efficiency, play, distribution, ball movement... and striking back at Evil Ime with the Alley Oop.

Like Frampton, five decades earlier, Payton has come alive... and I for one welcome our new PG Overlord! You can
never have enough of them...

He's doing well for sure. Just still the weakest of the top 8. Tough competition.

Yup, it is what it is, still to the Celtics benefit..

[ConstableGeneva]

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Bummer. We can't sign Jokic if he gets waived.

[Celts17Pride]

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[LoveMyRaps]

I'm from the future - Dougie McBuckets will be your deadline acquisition.

[165bows]

I'm from the future - Dougie McBuckets will be your deadline acquisition.

Ha zero point zero chance lol.

[Fierce1]

Both those guys had moments, but were for the most part over-rated on their ability to stop him. Nobody can - much less a guy that you find for less that than it costs to upgrade PP. Stevens is probably the closest to them on the roster, but he can't get time. And, sure if we can find someone, great, lol.

As for PP defense - it's not about finding guys to defend PGs and SGs. It's about your 8th guy not getting played off the floor when defenses force the switch on him over and over and over and over. We need an 8th guy that can stay out there. Maybe Pritchard can, or at least can score more than he gives up.

I'm just happier with our forwards/bigs depth than I am with the Pritchard as our only reserve guard. Heck, even just augmenting Prichard instead of replacing him is a good step, imo.

I think the arrangement with PP is he agreed to sign an extension because he was assured of becoming the 3rd PG on the depth chart.

That's why he didn't ask to be traded anymore.

Adding another PG who will dislodge PP as the 8th man will not sit well with PP.

We've seen PP play in the east finals and finals in 2022.
I think he's better now and is good enough for this current Celtics team.

It's true some teams, like Miami, will hunt PP on defense.
But so far this season, that has not been a problem.

There's still time as the trade deadline is still a little less than a month away.

My guess is PP has done enough to earn that 8th man spot.

Regarding the insurance for Al at the 4 spot, if the Hawks are serious in saying only Trae and Jalen Johnson are untouchable, I think Saddiq Bey can be acquired at a reasonable price.

Just not sure if Bey can really defend Giannis like Grant Williams.
But Bey certainly has the tools to guard Giannis.

The most realistic scenario is like what Parl said, Brad will just see who's available in the buyout market.

I agree it's unlikely, just that, while still good, he's our weakest link of the top 8 to me.
Just like you're saying with Al, if one of Jrue/White go down, we're in even worse shape.

Not the same.

If Al goes down, nobody can adequately fill in.

Just like in that Milwaukee game.
Giannis was unleashed and unstoppable.

If White or Jrue goes down, Joe would just insert Al in the starting lineup and the Celts will be in a 2-big lineup.

Since it's the playoffs, PP would just fill in for a few minutes in case Jrue or White is out.
JT can be the PG if PP is ineffective.

There's just 2 teams where Al is very important and that's against the Sixers and Bucks.

The good news is as long as the Cs are the #1 seed, Cs will only face one of them.

[djFan71]

I think the arrangement with PP is he agreed to sign an extension because he was assured of becoming the 3rd PG on the depth chart.

That's why he didn't ask to be traded anymore.

Adding another PG who will dislodge PP as the 8th man will not sit well with PP.

We've seen PP play in the east finals and finals in 2022.
I think he's better now and is good enough for this current Celtics team.

It's true some teams, like Miami, will hunt PP on defense.
But so far this season, that has not been a problem.

There's still time as the trade deadline is still a little less than a month away.

My guess is PP has done enough to earn that 8th man spot.

Regarding the insurance for Al at the 4 spot, if the Hawks are serious in saying only Trae and Jalen Johnson are untouchable, I think Saddiq Bey can be acquired at a reasonable price.

Just not sure if Bey can really defend Giannis like Grant Williams.
But Bey certainly has the tools to guard Giannis.

The most realistic scenario is like what Parl said, Brad will just see who's available in the buyout market.

I agree it's unlikely, just that, while still good, he's our weakest link of the top 8 to me.
Just like you're saying with Al, if one of Jrue/White go down, we're in even worse shape.

Not the same.

If Al goes down, nobody can adequately fill in.

Just like in that Milwaukee game.
Giannis was unleashed and unstoppable.

If White or Jrue goes down, Joe would just insert Al in the starting lineup and the Celts will be in a 2-big lineup.

Since it's the playoffs, PP would just fill in for a few minutes in case Jrue or White is out.
JT can be the PG if PP is ineffective.

There's just 2 teams where Al is very important and that's against the Sixers and Bucks.

The good news is as long as the Cs are the #1 seed, Cs will only face one of them.

Fair. Ish... I don't wanna lose Al at all, for sure. But, I don't know who you're getting that helps more than Kornet/Queta/Stevens against those 2 guys if it does happen. I don't think Bey is the answer.

It's really the no injury scenario where you have Al/Hauser/Pritchard as the bench that Pritchard is the one I'd wanna upgrade most. Injury scenario there's just not great answers for.

[Larry_Russell]

I agree it's unlikely, just that, while still good, he's our weakest link of the top 8 to me.
Just like you're saying with Al, if one of Jrue/White go down, we're in even worse shape.

Not the same.

If Al goes down, nobody can adequately fill in.

Just like in that Milwaukee game.
Giannis was unleashed and unstoppable.

If White or Jrue goes down, Joe would just insert Al in the starting lineup and the Celts will be in a 2-big lineup.

Since it's the playoffs, PP would just fill in for a few minutes in case Jrue or White is out.
JT can be the PG if PP is ineffective.

There's just 2 teams where Al is very important and that's against the Sixers and Bucks.

The good news is as long as the Cs are the #1 seed, Cs will only face one of them.

Fair. Ish... I don't wanna lose Al at all, for sure. But, I don't know who you're getting that helps more than Kornet/Queta/Stevens against those 2 guys if it does happen. I don't think Bey is the answer.

It's really the no injury scenario where you have Al/Hauser/Pritchard as the bench that Pritchard is the one I'd wanna upgrade most. Injury scenario there's just not great answers for.

Stevens and brissett are bodies that xan work defending giannis and embiid

[Fierce1]

Not the same.

If Al goes down, nobody can adequately fill in.

Just like in that Milwaukee game.
Giannis was unleashed and unstoppable.

If White or Jrue goes down, Joe would just insert Al in the starting lineup and the Celts will be in a 2-big lineup.

Since it's the playoffs, PP would just fill in for a few minutes in case Jrue or White is out.
JT can be the PG if PP is ineffective.

There's just 2 teams where Al is very important and that's against the Sixers and Bucks.

The good news is as long as the Cs are the #1 seed, Cs will only face one of them.

Fair. Ish... I don't wanna lose Al at all, for sure. But, I don't know who you're getting that helps more than Kornet/Queta/Stevens against those 2 guys if it does happen. I don't think Bey is the answer.

It's really the no injury scenario where you have Al/Hauser/Pritchard as the bench that Pritchard is the one I'd wanna upgrade most. Injury scenario there's just not great answers for.

Stevens and brissett are bodies that xan work defending giannis and embiid

They're too short and not big enough.

Embiid would just back them down then shoot over them.

Giannis would just get past those guys and overpower them.

[Fierce1]

I agree it's unlikely, just that, while still good, he's our weakest link of the top 8 to me.
Just like you're saying with Al, if one of Jrue/White go down, we're in even worse shape.

Not the same.

If Al goes down, nobody can adequately fill in.

Just like in that Milwaukee game.
Giannis was unleashed and unstoppable.

If White or Jrue goes down, Joe would just insert Al in the starting lineup and the Celts will be in a 2-big lineup.

Since it's the playoffs, PP would just fill in for a few minutes in case Jrue or White is out.
JT can be the PG if PP is ineffective.

There's just 2 teams where Al is very important and that's against the Sixers and Bucks.

The good news is as long as the Cs are the #1 seed, Cs will only face one of them.

Fair. Ish... I don't wanna lose Al at all, for sure. But, I don't know who you're getting that helps more than Kornet/Queta/Stevens against those 2 guys if it does happen. I don't think Bey is the answer.

It's really the no injury scenario where you have Al/Hauser/Pritchard as the bench that Pritchard is the one I'd wanna upgrade most. Injury scenario there's just not great answers for.

Yeah, it's basically down to just be healthy.

Most likely scenario is Brad just gets someone from the buyout market.

[Dogen]

Cedi Osman, anyone? Works for the Banton/Svi/Stevens troika, but would probably need to sweeten. Plus it's just for this year.

And yet, a good big wing off the bench.

[gammajamma]

Cedi Osman, anyone? Works for the Banton/Svi/Stevens troika, but would probably need to sweeten. Plus it's just for this year.

And yet, a good big wing off the bench.

Every trade checker I have tried says that it doesnt work moneywise

[Dogen]

Cedi Osman, anyone? Works for the Banton/Svi/Stevens troika, but would probably need to sweeten. Plus it's just for this year.

And yet, a good big wing off the bench.

Every trade checker I have tried says that it doesnt work moneywise

looks good in trusty ol' RealGm: https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8753064