2023-2024 Regular Season Game 40: Orlando Magic (21-18) at New York Knicks (23-16) - 3pm

[ogmagicfan]

franz being out may be a blessing? he hasn't has a lot of rest.....went from fiba straight into the season

it is, he needed rest so badly. it's been clear from the get go

we can only hope he looks more like his old self when he comes back, 3 pt shooting included

[KillMonger]

franz being out may be a blessing? he hasn't has a lot of rest.....went from fiba straight into the season

it is, he needed rest so badly. it's been clear from the get go

we can only hope he looks more like his old self when he comes back, 3 pt shooting included

yeah, there were times with franz where it looked to me like he had no legs....hopefully he's good to go soon

[thelead]

Our offensive efficiency is just downright terrible. 22nd in the NBA with a TS% of 57%. League average is 58%. Paolo is at 54. Cole is at 56. WCJ is at 55. Franz is at 56. Fultz is at 44...

For reference, Indy, OKC, and Milwaukee are at 62% as a team...

At least the defense is still effective.

To expand on this a little more, I don't think it's a coincidence that these 3 teams have high-level all-star level PGs that can get theirs and run an offense.

Hali - 63% TS%
SGA - 65% TS%
Dame - 61% TS%

I understand Tyus is not an all-star level PG but he's an efficient option (61% TS%) that knows how to run an offense well.

[The-Stallion70]

Horray!! Now can all their fans go back to the Bronx with the Knicks?

[The-Stallion70]

Cole is shooting 33% from deep for the season… if ya’ll are okay with that, you’re not serious about wanting to win. I’m begrudgingly ’ok’ with letting him develop but to think he’s doing great in his role is crazy considering he’s a negative on defense.

This isn't even true, Cole is shooting 34% from three on the year.

Anthony Black shoots 34% from 3.

Luka Doncic shoots 34% from three for his career.

Generating gravity is about alot more than just shooting percentage.

[davey_wavy]

Cole is shooting 33% from deep for the season… if ya’ll are okay with that, you’re not serious about wanting to win. I’m begrudgingly ’ok’ with letting him develop but to think he’s doing great in his role is crazy considering he’s a negative on defense.

This isn't even true, Cole is shooting 34% from three on the year.

Anthony Black shoots 34% from 3.

Luka Doncic shoots 34% from three for his career.

Generating gravity is about alot more than just shooting percentage.

First thing people worry about is 3pt %....

I guess nothing else matters

[thelead]

Cole is shooting 33% from deep for the season… if ya’ll are okay with that, you’re not serious about wanting to win. I’m begrudgingly ’ok’ with letting him develop but to think he’s doing great in his role is crazy considering he’s a negative on defense.

This isn't even true, Cole is shooting 34% from three on the year.

Anthony Black shoots 34% from 3.

Luka Doncic shoots 34% from three for his career.

Generating gravity is about alot more than just shooting percentage.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/player/cole-anthony-10203

He's now at 33% after shooting 0-3 tonight

Luka is shooting 38% this year and has a TS% of 61%

AB plays defense and shoots the same percentage from deep....

[MasterGMer]

I heard Franz is possible to be back Wednesday. Is that true?

[thelead]

I heard Franz is possible to be back Wednesday. Is that true?

[The-Stallion70]

Cole is shooting 33% from deep for the season… if ya’ll are okay with that, you’re not serious about wanting to win. I’m begrudgingly ’ok’ with letting him develop but to think he’s doing great in his role is crazy considering he’s a negative on defense.

This isn't even true, Cole is shooting 34% from three on the year.

Anthony Black shoots 34% from 3.

Luka Doncic shoots 34% from three for his career.

Generating gravity is about alot more than just shooting percentage.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/player/cole-anthony-10203

He's now at 33% after shooting 0-3 tonight

Luka is shooting 38% this year and has a TS% of 61%

AB plays defense and shoots the same percentage from deep....

On 1att per game...

[thelead]

This isn't even true, Cole is shooting 34% from three on the year.

Anthony Black shoots 34% from 3.

Luka Doncic shoots 34% from three for his career.

Generating gravity is about alot more than just shooting percentage.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/player/cole-anthony-10203

He's now at 33% after shooting 0-3 tonight

Luka is shooting 38% this year and has a TS% of 61%

AB plays defense and shoots the same percentage from deep....

On 1att per game...

Your argument sounds eerily like 'we can't trade Vuc, he's our best player, where would our offense come from?'

For the record, I would like Cole to just improve so we can move forward with him since he's on a decent contract.

[Optimus_Steel]

Paolo hit a couple of clutch baskets despite the tough finish against Miami, how awesome it is to have a bucket maker in clutch situations, but I was super impressed with his defense on Randle. He made Randle work very hard for shots and just made it difficult in general. There was one play late 4th that Randle tries to drive on him but Paolo held his ground so Randle is forced to pass to Abonuby on the side for a 3 and Paolo made the rotation and contested the shot, it was missed badly and Magic get the board. That was just as impressive.

[richi_v25]

franz being out may be a blessing? he hasn't has a lot of rest.....went from fiba straight into the season

I couldn't understand why Okeke was in the NBA but he's had a few good games with Franz out, Houstan has also gotten to shine a bit even Queen.

[The-Stallion70]

Fultz is starting to get comfortable out there. Many forget what a good year he had last year.

[Knightro]

Fultz is starting to get comfortable out there. Many forget what a good year he had last year.

We have different definitions of good.

[pepe1991]

few thoughts:
This was UGLY game
BUT win is a win
Paolo made two massive shots at the end
Knicks bricked 4 out of 6 FTs within last 5 min and that killed them
Achuiwa has some of the worst hands in basketball, talking Biz Biyombo level bad, guy got pass delivered under a rim , twice, and once he airballed layup, second time ball bounched off his chest . Crazy how bad fundamentals some of "pro" players actually have
We look like different basketball team whenever Ingles is on the court
Okeke had his PJ Tucker type of game

[KillMonger]

Fultz is starting to get comfortable out there. Many forget what a good year he had last year.

what people don't seem to understand is the problem with fultz is not so much his abilities....it's health....it's been this way year after year since we got him.....he's injured then he comes back....then he's injured again....at some point you can't keep waiting on injury prone players to stop getting injured

[pepe1991]

Cole is shooting 33% from deep for the season… if ya’ll are okay with that, you’re not serious about wanting to win. I’m begrudgingly ’ok’ with letting him develop but to think he’s doing great in his role is crazy considering he’s a negative on defense.

This isn't even true, Cole is shooting 34% from three on the year.

Anthony Black shoots 34% from 3.

Luka Doncic shoots 34% from three for his career.

Generating gravity is about alot more than just shooting percentage.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/player/cole-anthony-10203

He's now at 33% after shooting 0-3 tonight

Luka is shooting 38% this year and has a TS% of 61%

AB plays defense and shoots the same percentage from deep....

Anthony Black attemped 55 threes this year. All were wide open. Made 18. Can we NOT paint him as some shooter? Every team we play ignores him completely on perimeter.
Cole Anthony made 16 threes in Janaury alone. People actually bother to guard Cole, even when he airballs catch& shoot like last night.

On other hand, people don't guard Black anywhere but around rim.







I like Black, Black has so many good things going for him, from being very young, big, strong, with massive defensive potential, but he isn't shooter and today isn't really "playmaker", rather filler D with no 3 guy. And that's ok. Because we didn't draft him to be go to guy in rookie year.

[thelead]

This isn't even true, Cole is shooting 34% from three on the year.

Anthony Black shoots 34% from 3.

Luka Doncic shoots 34% from three for his career.

Generating gravity is about alot more than just shooting percentage.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/player/cole-anthony-10203

He's now at 33% after shooting 0-3 tonight

Luka is shooting 38% this year and has a TS% of 61%

AB plays defense and shoots the same percentage from deep....

Anthony Black attemped 55 threes this year. All were wide open. Made 18. Can we NOT paint him as some shooter? Every team we play ignores him completely on perimeter.
Cole Anthony made 16 threes in Janaury alone. People actually bother to guard Cole, even when he airballs catch& shoot like last night.

On other hand, people don't guard Black anywhere but around rim.








I like Black, Black has so many good things going for him, from being very young, big, strong, with massive defensive potential, but he isn't shooter and today isn't really "playmaker", rather filler D with no 3 guy. And that's ok. Because we didn't draft him to be go to guy in rookie year.

The problem is that 33% isn't good enough for a 'scorer' that doesn't bring much else. He HAS to get his efficiency up. He'll be 24 this May. We need him to start improving ASAP.

[The-Stallion70]

Fultz is starting to get comfortable out there. Many forget what a good year he had last year.

We have different definitions of good.

Enlighten me then.

14 ppg 5.7 apg 3.9 rpg
16.6 PER
56.4 ts% on 21.3 usage

In 60 games played.

This is a heck of alot better than Suggs or Black. Weak handle, small hands Suggs' offensive game appears to be very dependent on his three point shot. If that goes south next year then he doesn't have a whole lot else to fall back on as an offensive player.