Fultz Prediction

[JoshuaPotter]

Passes the sniff test for sure

He's still just messing around during these regular season NBA games.

He's just a silly boy with all-star aura

top 5 point guard aura with a top 40 pg skill range.

[jezzerinho]

This is a kid whose tics have robbed him of an all-star career, imo. Its an amazing story for him to have made it as far as he has.

But you can forget TOS, sprained ankles, tendonitis etc. Pure smokescreens to protect him. The guy gets flareups of his condition and until they settle back down theres nothing he or anyone can do.

At 5m a year or less, to keep a guy like that around, look after him and have him play bench minutes would be an amazing gesture by the FO. But they paid him triple that and had him starting, which when he wasnt available or was but couldnt shoot, the team was very negatively affected. So one thing is the Orl family organisation doing right by Markelle by giving him a role. But its quite another handing the starter keys to him when you never know if, or forward how long, hes going to be totally unroadworthy.

[Bergmaniac]

Has anyone in our illustrious media contingent bothered to ask Mosley why Fultz literally will not even try a 3-pointer now. Are we supposed to believe he's not attempting them because he had some knee tendinitis?

I wonder how long it would take for Dante and Jeff Turner to mention that Fultz is completely refusing to take shots outside of the paint since he came back. My bet is at least 10 more games. They hype to the heavens any half decent pass he make and completely refuse to say anything remotely negative about him.

[eyriq]

Has anyone in our illustrious media contingent bothered to ask Mosley why Fultz literally will not even try a 3-pointer now. Are we supposed to believe he's not attempting them because he had some knee tendinitis?

I wonder how long it would take for Dante and Jeff Turner to mention that Fultz is completely refusing to take shots outside of the paint since he came back. My bet is at least 10 more games. They hype to the heavens any half decent pass he make and completely refuse to say anything remotely negative about him.

Fultz: Passes up wide open 3
Turner: "So savvy, plays to his strengths"

[Audi]

Has anyone in our illustrious media contingent bothered to ask Mosley why Fultz literally will not even try a 3-pointer now. Are we supposed to believe he's not attempting them because he had some knee tendinitis?

I wonder how long it would take for Dante and Jeff Turner to mention that Fultz is completely refusing to take shots outside of the paint since he came back. My bet is at least 10 more games. They hype to the heavens any half decent pass he make and completely refuse to say anything remotely negative about him.

...they don't even say negative things about players on the opposing teams - never going to happen (nor should it - bring critical of our players is not their job).

[JoshuaPotter]

Has anyone in our illustrious media contingent bothered to ask Mosley why Fultz literally will not even try a 3-pointer now. Are we supposed to believe he's not attempting them because he had some knee tendinitis?

I wonder how long it would take for Dante and Jeff Turner to mention that Fultz is completely refusing to take shots outside of the paint since he came back. My bet is at least 10 more games. They hype to the heavens any half decent pass he make and completely refuse to say anything remotely negative about him.

Fultz: Passes up wide open 3
Turner: "So savvy, plays to his strengths"

Fultz knows how to seek out those high percentage shots.

[swarlesbarkley]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

[pepe1991]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

[p0peye]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

If it was a motorbike accident, I would expect that to be used against him. Mocking a mental health issue is not funny and it would be universally frown upon.

[swarlesbarkley]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. A bit of sympathy for him knowing he was a highly touted #1 pick but then mental + physical issues got in the way. I guess no one mocked Greg Oden either.

But I wouldn't put it past Draymond lol.

[fendilim]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. A bit of sympathy for him knowing he was a highly touted #1 pick but then mental + physical issues got in the way. I guess no one mocked Greg Oden either.

But I wouldn't put it past Draymond lol.

Not good enough to be a target.

Also, fultz seems nice. Guys like Brooks targets the team’s best player

[pepe1991]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. A bit of sympathy for him knowing he was a highly touted #1 pick but then mental + physical issues got in the way. I guess no one mocked Greg Oden either.

But I wouldn't put it past Draymond lol.

I was thinking about motorcycle accident "coverup" as some type of player's gentelment's code of silence, i bet among nba players, many of them know lot of personal dirt about other guys, from merriage cheating, drugs, steroids etc.
Like, most notorious example, Odom was showing up in lockerroom on crack. Odom admited he was doing cocaine since 2004. (btw good job drug testing nba guys, you killed it )

I don't know. We never really found out what execlly happend to Fultz. TOS diagnosed after multiple doctors visited, never had surgery, never fully recovered ,over time his shoulder & jumpshot got worst (again).

It's just mess. Has been mess ever since first footages of his broken jumpshot broke internet back in summer of 2017.

[JoshuaPotter]

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. A bit of sympathy for him knowing he was a highly touted #1 pick but then mental + physical issues got in the way. I guess no one mocked Greg Oden either.

But I wouldn't put it past Draymond lol.

Not good enough to be a target.

Also, fultz seems nice. Guys like Brooks targets the team’s best player

I keep saying it. I have nothing to say against Fultz as a player, a human, and a stand up person.

If a team offered me his contract I too would sign it in a heartbeat and do my best to perform at an NBA level. What's that? They won't. Drats.

The onus of this contract is on ownership and their idea to commit to oft injured players. Even Ingles whom I absolutely adore as a signing doesn't do us any good when he off court injured. This, is a problem with our franchise in general right now as up to 4 key positions are tied either by injury or cap space.

Isaac, Ingles, WCJ, Fultz are good enough to be in the NBA when healthy. Just feels like we put 33% of our active roster on minutes restrictions and shrugged our shoulders and said "well play by committee."

[Audi]

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. A bit of sympathy for him knowing he was a highly touted #1 pick but then mental + physical issues got in the way. I guess no one mocked Greg Oden either.

But I wouldn't put it past Draymond lol.

I was thinking about motorcycle accident "coverup" as some type of player's gentelment's code of silence, i bet among nba players, many of them know lot of personal dirt about other guys, from merriage cheating, drugs, steroids etc.
Like, most notorious example, Odom was showing up in lockerroom on crack. Odom admited he was doing cocaine since 2004. (btw good job drug testing nba guys, you killed it )

I don't know. We never really found out what execlly happend to Fultz. TOS diagnosed after multiple doctors visited, never had surgery, never fully recovered ,over time his shoulder & jumpshot got worst (again).

It's just mess. Has been mess ever since first footages of his broken jumpshot broke internet back in summer of 2017.

Odom probably got away with it due to the fact that cocaine metabolites only stay in your system at test-detectable levels for like, 1-2 days. Would be interesting to go back and watch some games and see how he performed

I know we'll never see eye to eye on the Fultz thing but just need to drill the point home that TOS getting diagnosed after multiple doctors visited is exactly how TOS gets diagnosed. If you'll recall, it was originally said he had "scapular imbalance" and even had treatment for it. Diagnosis by exclusion is very common for lots of different medical issues so that shouldn't be a red flag. Surgery is also something that we don't know was ever a viable option in Fultz's case. Some people with TOS can just have a rib removed to ease the nerve compression but again...it only works for some people. He never fully recovered - this is true. Not too surprising though, considering he plays a professional sport relying heavily on repetitive motion and re-injury seems like a real problem.

I agree that the real mystery is being how it all happened in the first place. It very well could have been some sort of accident dirt biking or whatever. Could've also just been grinding too hard in the gym and not knowing that it was causing damage. Who knows.

Sadly, much like a player who relies on their first step that suffers a serious knee injury and never comes back the same, Fultz's coveted shot looks like something he will always struggle to regain. It was one thing for me (and others) to hope for that midrange to improve in distance to beyond the arc. It's another to see that progress erased and now hope to even regain the middy and FT's. If he can get back to hitting from midrange at a good clip I think he still has a place in the league, but that will require a team that has time to see. I don't think we have the time anymore.

[Skybox]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

I was thinking that he isn't scoring...just let him be

[JF5]

It's like his 4th game back after playing his 5 games at the start of the season? I'd give it at least 20 games on him before having a complete opinion.

We need 5 seasons of data before we know who Fultz really is. You can never be too sure.

Way to take me out of context... but that's fine...

[Bergmaniac]

Has anyone in our illustrious media contingent bothered to ask Mosley why Fultz literally will not even try a 3-pointer now. Are we supposed to believe he's not attempting them because he had some knee tendinitis?

I wonder how long it would take for Dante and Jeff Turner to mention that Fultz is completely refusing to take shots outside of the paint since he came back. My bet is at least 10 more games. They hype to the heavens any half decent pass he make and completely refuse to say anything remotely negative about him.

...they don't even say negative things about players on the opposing teams - never going to happen (nor should it - bring critical of our players is not their job).

I am not saying they have to call him out directly, but not even mentioning that one of the Magic's players has suddenly completely stopped taking midrange shots which were his bread and butter in his previous seasons is just not doing your job as a commentator.

[Fortune Teller]

I wonder how long it would take for Dante and Jeff Turner to mention that Fultz is completely refusing to take shots outside of the paint since he came back. My bet is at least 10 more games. They hype to the heavens any half decent pass he make and completely refuse to say anything remotely negative about him.

...they don't even say negative things about players on the opposing teams - never going to happen (nor should it - bring critical of our players is not their job).

I am not saying they have to call him out directly, but not even mentioning that one of the Magic's players has suddenly completely stopped taking midrange shots which were his bread and butter in his previous seasons is just not doing your job as a commentator.

Right, we're not saying they should start bashing him. They are "commentators", so we expect them to "comment" on what they are observing. For example, "Fultz passes up the three. On the season, he's only attempted three 3-pointers, and hasn't attempted any in the past five games. Not sure if that's injury-related or strategic, but that part of his game is no longer there."

But my original question was more directed at the Sentinel, for what it's worth. Why hasn't this question been posed to Mosley? I mean, this is practically unheard of in the NBA in 2024, a PG who literally does not shoot 3-pointers. And it's not like he never did in his career, so yes, this is newsworthy. (I know the hard-hitting journalists in the blogger contingent won't ask).

[RichCollab]

Could you imagine if we played a playoff series against a guy like Draymon or Dillon Brooks and how much they would mock Fultz for either not shooting or, if he actually shoots, his shooting form? Yikes. It's surprising to me that no player has instigated anything like that against Fultz over the last few years on the court. Maybe the games haven't been high enough stakes yet.

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

If it was a motorbike accident, I would expect that to be used against him. Mocking a mental health issue is not funny and it would be universally frown upon.

TOS isn’t a mental health issue.

[jezzerinho]

Pure speculation but maybe players know what execlly happend to him ( motorbike accident coverup for insurance reasons? ) so they don't want to be d***s?


Or, less conspiracy theory : he isn't trashtalking so nobody barks back.

If it was a motorbike accident, I would expect that to be used against him. Mocking a mental health issue is not funny and it would be universally frown upon.

TOS isn’t a mental health issue.

He doesn't have TOS. Or if he does, its not anywjere near his main challenge. He has involuntary tics, which is likely some combination of a psychological and nervous condition.

Nobody is asking why Fultz cant shoot, because they already know the answer. The organisation is trying to protect Fultz and help him recover, but clearly he has relapses.