2023-2024 Regular Season Game 40: Orlando Magic (21-18) at New York Knicks (23-16) - 3pm

[bigdogdylan5]

Man I love Paolo but he has to get his percentages up. Feels like that is the one thing stopping him from being an offensive fulcrum like Tatum and SGA. He is trending in the right way his eFG is up pretty well. But he needs to improve that even more. Easiest avenue is improving around the basket moves

[Knightro]

Fultz is starting to get comfortable out there. Many forget what a good year he had last year.

We have different definitions of good.

Enlighten me then.

14 ppg 5.7 apg 3.9 rpg
16.6 PER
56.4 ts% on 21.3 usage

In 60 games played.

This is a heck of alot better than Suggs or Black. Weak handle, small hands Suggs' offensive game appears to be very dependent on his three point shot. If that goes south next year then he doesn't have a whole lot else to fall back on as an offensive player.

14-6-4 on a 56 TS% is a below average player production wise. The league average TS% was .581. Fultz was the 26th ranked PG in PPG. He was the 24th ranked PG in APG. He was the 21st ranked PG in RPG. He was 18th worst in turnovers (out of 53 qualified).

And when you factor in Fultz is also very limited in how he can impact the game off the basketball because he does not space the floor as a shooter, it all adds up to a him being a bit below average player as an individual, and an especially poor fit with the two building blocks the Magic already have.

Suggs is shooting .386 from 3PT on 9.5 attempts/100 and is a plus plus defender. Even if he is best suited to be a 20-25 MPG chaos agent off the bench, there's still significant value there as a role player.

Black is a teenager who is already a plus defender and has shown some (albeit very small) flashes offensively. But again, he's still a teenager and not 25 like Markelle is.

[thelead]

Man I love Paolo but he has to get his percentages up. Feels like that is the one thing stopping him from being an offensive fulcrum like Tatum and SGA. He is trending in the right way his eFG is up pretty well. But he needs to improve that even more. Easiest avenue is improving around the basket moves

100% for him and Franz. We won’t get to where we want to be without them both improving to above league average. Paolo from in close and at the line and Franz from deep.

[Optimus_Steel]

Man I love Paolo but he has to get his percentages up. Feels like that is the one thing stopping him from being an offensive fulcrum like Tatum and SGA. He is trending in the right way his eFG is up pretty well. But he needs to improve that even more. Easiest avenue is improving around the basket moves

100% for him and Franz. We won’t get to where we want to be without them both improving to above league average. Paolo from in close and at the line and Franz from deep.

Good news is that they both should be able to improve on those.

[bigdogdylan5]

Man I love Paolo but he has to get his percentages up. Feels like that is the one thing stopping him from being an offensive fulcrum like Tatum and SGA. He is trending in the right way his eFG is up pretty well. But he needs to improve that even more. Easiest avenue is improving around the basket moves

100% for him and Franz. We won’t get to where we want to be without them both improving to above league average. Paolo from in close and at the line and Franz from deep.

Good news is that they both should be able to improve on those.

I do think these are very improvable. Paolo has to settle into what his build will be. Like is the goal for him to keep getting stronger then it might take a while as if he keeps getting stronger it will mean is touch with muscle memory fluctuates. I do wonder if this is a reason for his free throw shooting. It’s just off this year and he does look stronger. I almost think when he settles he needs to work on a floater or the hook shot. I just don’t think his pure athleticism is Lebron or Giannis so he might need to be a more finesse version.

[drsd]

The problem is that 33% isn't good enough for a 'scorer' that doesn't bring much else. He HAS to get his efficiency up. He'll be 24 this May. We need him to start improving ASAP.

Another point is that Anthony shooting 33% with a player in his face is not the same as Black hitting 33% were NOBODY is within 5 feet of him.

Please watch teams other than the magic… I promise there are many non-star guys that take tough shots and make them at a higher clip.

I am not arguing that Anthony is a good distance shooter (he is not), and I am arguing that Black is a horrible distance shooter. Shooting 33% with NOBODY 5 feet on you is terrible. Most NBA wings can shoot 60-80% from three in a practice situation. Most wings shooting under Black's conditions would be be making over 45%.

I do not see us as disagreeing.

[Furinkazan]

Fultz played good today. Forget his Washington jumpshot, if his shot was like last year, hed be a valuable player in the league. I wish I could understand his TOS. Theres clearly something going on that we dont know about.

0 fts stat is bogus he is avoiding contact he is avoiding any long to mid range shot...even if its a FT
this cant work..and wont work in a longterm
he can have nice games from time to time riding in sheer talent but more often its like letting a handicapped person to play
Knicks just either didnt do their scouting job or wanted to play honorably...
Id just send Fultz to the ft line every time I get a chance...and Id win that game for the Knicks

starting to look like Ben Simmons situation

[BadMofoPimp]

Man I love Paolo but he has to get his percentages up. Feels like that is the one thing stopping him from being an offensive fulcrum like Tatum and SGA. He is trending in the right way his eFG is up pretty well. But he needs to improve that even more. Easiest avenue is improving around the basket moves

Outside of 3 point shooting, I think Paolo is possibly better than those 2 in their 2nd season.

[p0peye]

often its like letting a handicapped person to play

[bigdogdylan5]

Man I love Paolo but he has to get his percentages up. Feels like that is the one thing stopping him from being an offensive fulcrum like Tatum and SGA. He is trending in the right way his eFG is up pretty well. But he needs to improve that even more. Easiest avenue is improving around the basket moves

Outside of 3 point shooting, I think Paolo is possibly better than those 2 in their 2nd season.

In terms of raw counting stats yes. From efficiency' perspective it is not on the same level. Now Tatum and SGA in their first couple years were not the number one option. So kind of like the argument between Paolo and OKC JWill yea from advanced stats JWill was probably the rookie of the year but if you actually watched it was insane to not give it to Paolo. It’s really hard for a young player to shoulder the whole load and be efficient. He is 3-4 years away from Tatum and SGA but I am just thinking he needs to keep that trajectory going and the next step should be increasing his efficiency around the rim.

[ogmagicfan]

Man I love Paolo but he has to get his percentages up. Feels like that is the one thing stopping him from being an offensive fulcrum like Tatum and SGA. He is trending in the right way his eFG is up pretty well. But he needs to improve that even more. Easiest avenue is improving around the basket moves

Feel like alot of the percentage woes, which havent been bad at all considering the curcumstances is due to lack of shooting and a PG who can actually set him up

For example in this game Paolo had a mismatch in the paint and Suggs tried to throw a post entry pass to him and the ball went out of bounds.

We legit don't have a player who can consistently give post entry passes outside of Ingles. That's a huge problem and takes away from alot of easy baskets. The vast majority of Paolo's pts are unassisted

[basketballRob]

Another point is that Anthony shooting 33% with a player in his face is not the same as Black hitting 33% were NOBODY is within 5 feet of him.

Please watch teams other than the magic… I promise there are many non-star guys that take tough shots and make them at a higher clip.

I am not arguing that Anthony is a good distance shooter (he is not), and I am arguing that Black is a horrible distance shooter. Shooting 33% with NOBODY 5 feet on you is terrible. Most NBA wings can shoot 60-80% from three in a practice situation. Most wings shooting under Black's conditions would be be making over 45%.

I do not see us as disagreeing.

Black is shooting 35% from 3.

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[eyriq]

Please watch teams other than the magic… I promise there are many non-star guys that take tough shots and make them at a higher clip.

I am not arguing that Anthony is a good distance shooter (he is not), and I am arguing that Black is a horrible distance shooter. Shooting 33% with NOBODY 5 feet on you is terrible. Most NBA wings can shoot 60-80% from three in a practice situation. Most wings shooting under Black's conditions would be be making over 45%.

I do not see us as disagreeing.

Black is shooting 35% from 3.

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*mic drop*

[drsd]

I am not arguing that Anthony is a good distance shooter (he is not), and I am arguing that Black is a horrible distance shooter. Shooting 33% with NOBODY 5 feet on you is terrible. Most NBA wings can shoot 60-80% from three in a practice situation. Most wings shooting under Black's conditions would be be making over 45%.

I do not see us as disagreeing.

Black is shooting 35% from 3.

*mic drop*

[The-Stallion70]

It's not hard to shoot a decent percentage with 11% usage rate and 2 3pt attempts per game.

There are multiple g league players who come in on a 10 day contract, shoot decent percentages in a total of about 30 minutes played but don't get another chance.

Teams are still not convinced that they are actually good shooters what matters more is volume.