Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

[djFan71]

Get me Grimes, Brad. PP is a topnotch facilitator.

BOS: Grimes and Delon for PP, Svi, Banton, 2nd(s)
NYK: Pritchard and Gill for Grimes and Flynn
WAS: Flynn, Svi, Banton, 2nd(s) for Wright and Flynn

Throw in picks as needed.

[djFan71]

More palatable for the Knicks:

BOS: Grimes, Delon, Arcidiacono for PP, Svi, Banton
NYK: Tyus Jones for Grimes, Flynn
WAS: Pritchard, Flynn, Svi, Banton, 2nd for Wright, Jones, Arcidiacono

Picks, etc.
If needed, Wiz can unload one more min guy on us due to the TPE/open roster spot.

[Dogen]

Allie Barefoot thinks GSW would trade Kuminga for TPE + 1st + 2nd.

I think Warriors will want to shed salary and get more back, but I'd be all over getting him here.

An athletic wing that can spot both of the Jays, and fits into a second unit: Horford, Brissett, Kuminga, Hauser, Pritchard.

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[ConstableGeneva]

Insane to say, but this is the year I don't want any part of these young, hungry types. Normally, you don't pass up opportunities like getting a Kuminga to stock up for the future. But chemistry is a fragile thing. Him wanting a bigger role and more touches/scoring opportunities on a team that's already rolling could be more of a wrench we don't want to throw into our well-oiled machine. Or whatever the expression is.

[Hal14]

Confirmed that the Hawks have traded everyone on their team except Trae and Jalen in the largest trade in league history, which involves them trading 13 guys and acquiring 13 guys lol.

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Bey could be headed to Boston..

[keevsnick1]

Its really hard to find a trade out there that makes a ton of sense for the C's. They have a really solid top 8, any impact trade would have to be for somebody who can crack that rotation AND make less than the Grant TPE and there just aren't many players like that.

Most the names we see thrown around just don't really do much for them i think.

Additionally the C's will likely be hesitant to add salary to next year, as I imagine they are going to try to stay below the 2nd apron to avoid their draft pick getting frozen.

[Dogen]

Insane to say, but this is the year I don't want any part of these young, hungry types. Normally, you don't pass up opportunities like getting a Kuminga to stock up for the future. But chemistry is a fragile thing. Him wanting a bigger role and more touches/scoring opportunities on a team that's already rolling could be more of a wrench we don't want to throw into our well-oiled machine. Or whatever the expression is.

Very sane take, actually. I would agree, but from what I'm seeing, the team could absorb a slight hit in chemistry, and the overall equation in the positive with an influx of talent.

Depends on Kuminga, I suppose. I don't know the guy's motives, but if were willing to come off the bench and play to his strengths and up to his ability, he can be a key reserve here and great chance of having some nice jewelry by June. The guy is still young and will get his day to shine and his payday too. Coming off the bench like a rabid defensive dog for a contender would certainly help his stock.

Now, you could say, "well, he had that chance in GS, didn't he?"

Well, sort of, yes, but maybe a change/trade will do him good -- it's up t him, and there is risk. The talent is sky high, I'd roll the dice.

But then again, there is a reason Brad Stevens is who he is, and I'm some dude playing hooky in Mexico.

[ConstableGeneva]

Insane to say, but this is the year I don't want any part of these young, hungry types. Normally, you don't pass up opportunities like getting a Kuminga to stock up for the future. But chemistry is a fragile thing. Him wanting a bigger role and more touches/scoring opportunities on a team that's already rolling could be more of a wrench we don't want to throw into our well-oiled machine. Or whatever the expression is.

Very sane take, actually. I would agree, but from what I'm seeing, the team could absorb a slight hit in chemistry, and the overall equation in the positive with an influx of talent.

Depends on Kuminga, I suppose. I don't know the guy's motives, but if were willing to come off the bench and play to his strengths and up to his ability, he can be a key reserve here and great chance of having some nice jewelry by June. The guy is still young and will get his day to shine and his payday too. Coming off the bench like a rabid defensive dog for a contender would certainly help his stock.

Now, you could say, "well, he had that chance in GS, didn't he?"

Well, sort of, yes, but maybe a change/trade will do him good -- it's up t him, and there is risk. The talent is sky high, I'd roll the dice.

But then again, there is a reason Brad Stevens is who he is, and I'm some dude playing hooky in Mexico.

Yep, if Kuminga can be had, Stevens will send his FBI dogs to dig up dirt on JK, interview JK's barber, former coaches, and childhood pals. Decide from there. If it doesn't work out, they can just Bogans his ass until the summer.

[Larry_Russell]

you 1 million percent take on Kuminga.

He can get lots of minutes here, imo, with a massive opportunity next year forward.

If Horford or KP is out...he can be the 6th starter,
if Brown or Tatum sit...he can be the 5th starter.
If Jrue or White sit he can be the 5th starter

He can get close on 30 minutes per game here at the sf/pf

[ConstableGeneva]

Nothing on the Cs other than "The Boston Celtics could use an inexpensive and experienced wing and/or big." Very helpful info there.

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[ddb]

you 1 million percent take on Kuminga.

He can get lots of minutes here, imo, with a massive opportunity next year forward.

If Horford or KP is out...he can be the 6th starter,
if Brown or Tatum sit...he can be the 5th starter.
If Jrue or White sit he can be the 5th starter

He can get close on 30 minutes per game here at the sf/pf

I bet Brad would prefer Moody over Kuminga. Just a hunch.

[Larry_Russell]

you 1 million percent take on Kuminga.

He can get lots of minutes here, imo, with a massive opportunity next year forward.

If Horford or KP is out...he can be the 6th starter,
if Brown or Tatum sit...he can be the 5th starter.
If Jrue or White sit he can be the 5th starter

He can get close on 30 minutes per game here at the sf/pf

I bet Brad would prefer Moody over Kuminga. Just a hunch.

I would too.

[Dogen]

you 1 million percent take on Kuminga.

He can get lots of minutes here, imo, with a massive opportunity next year forward.

If Horford or KP is out...he can be the 6th starter,
if Brown or Tatum sit...he can be the 5th starter.
If Jrue or White sit he can be the 5th starter

He can get close on 30 minutes per game here at the sf/pf

I bet Brad would prefer Moody over Kuminga. Just a hunch.

I would too.

I really like Moody, too, and he would be a more seamless fit here, from what I've seen.

Moody would be great as another defensive guard that can shoot, and could spell JB or White, come in and help slow down opponents at the perimeter.

Kuminga is just a beast. Ceiling higher than Moody, but seems like more baggage overall. He's a good compliment to the bench shooters we have, and gives us another guy that can get to the rim.

Moody a 2/3, Kuminga a 3/4. Brad says he's looking for a big wing. Brissett has been OK, but these guys are bona fide young talent.

Either of them fit into the TPE and if GS is making them available, it's worth pitching some picks. I'd be happy with either, but my guess is they will keep Kuminga. GS seems really high on Brandin Podziemski, so he may make Moody more expendable.

[ddb]

I bet Brad would prefer Moody over Kuminga. Just a hunch.

I would too.

I really like Moody, too, and he would be a more seamless fit here, from what I've seen.

Moody would be great as another defensive guard that can shoot, and could spell JB or White, come in and help slow down opponents at the perimeter.

Kuminga is just a beast. Ceiling higher than Moody, but seems like more baggage overall. He's a good compliment to the bench shooters we have, and gives us another guy that can get to the rim.

Moody a 2/3, Kuminga a 3/4. Brad says he's looking for a big wing. Brissett has been OK, but these guys are bona fide young talent.

Either of them fit into the TPE and if GS is making them available, it's worth pitching some picks. I'd be happy with either, but my guess is they will keep Kuminga. GS seems really high on Brandin Podziemski, so he may make Moody more expendable.

Couple things on Kuminga. First, Golden State still values him highly. They aren't going to move off of him unless it's as part of a good trade for them bringing back a star. Second, Kuminga wants to be more of a featured player. He wants to start, play a lot of minutes, and put-up numbers.

[JaMarco]

I want absolutely nothing to do with Kuminga. Can't shoot, not a modern NBA player.

[Green89]

Toronto getting Bruce Brown in the Pacers deal.

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2 things on Grimes.

1) He's a good player. Can defend. And he's been at either 38% or 39% from 3 in each of his 3 yrs in the league. Which is why if the Knicks trade him, I think they only do it if they are moving him as part of some bigger trade package to go and get another star.

Like, there's rumblings that they're open to moving Randle. Perhaps they're looking to package up Randle + Grimes + picks for a star (Donovan Mitchell?)

I highly doubt they are gonna trade Grimes to the best team in the league (who's in the same conference as them) for just some picks/filler

2) While he's been a good shooter in the reg season, he only shot 24% from 3 in last year's playoffs so that's a bit of a red flag..

[ConstableGeneva]

Toronto getting Bruce Brown in the Pacers deal.

So 2nd time Luke/Celtics broke the Raptors/Masai. Beat them before New Year and they trade OG. Beat them again and they're on the verge of trading Siakam?

[JaMarco]

2 things on Grimes.

1) He's a good player. Can defend. And he's been at either 38% or 39% from 3 in each of his 3 yrs in the league. Which is why if the Knicks trade him, I think they only do it if they are moving him as part of some bigger trade package to go and get another star.

Like, there's rumblings that they're open to moving Randle. Perhaps they're looking to package up Randle + Grimes + picks for a star (Donovan Mitchell?)

I highly doubt they are gonna trade Grimes to the best team in the league (who's in the same conference as them) for just some picks/filler

2) While he's been a good shooter in the reg season, he only shot 24% from 3 in last year's playoffs so that's a bit of a red flag..

Donovan Mitchell? Why in the world would CLE do that trade?

[Hal14]

2 things on Grimes.

1) He's a good player. Can defend. And he's been at either 38% or 39% from 3 in each of his 3 yrs in the league. Which is why if the Knicks trade him, I think they only do it if they are moving him as part of some bigger trade package to go and get another star.

Like, there's rumblings that they're open to moving Randle. Perhaps they're looking to package up Randle + Grimes + picks for a star (Donovan Mitchell?)

I highly doubt they are gonna trade Grimes to the best team in the league (who's in the same conference as them) for just some picks/filler

2) While he's been a good shooter in the reg season, he only shot 24% from 3 in last year's playoffs so that's a bit of a red flag..

Donovan Mitchell? Why in the world would CLE do that trade?

I didn't say they would.

If it happened though, Knicks would obviously include the necessary picks to make it work.

Also, that was not really the point of my post. The point of my post is, I am thinking that if the knicks trade Grimes, it's to try and get a star player (or a borderline star) in return, possibly by packaging Grimes up with Randle....rather than just dumping Grimes for picks and filler which is all Boston can offer them.