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Post#1981 » by CarraT » Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:37 pm

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of course you would, daylight robbery :-)

Only on realgm


Yea, realgm, where Magic fans are so overrating there own players trade value. :lol:
Like I already said. Carter is injury prone. AB is not even in top 10 rookie ladder, despite playing big minutes. He is super bad on offense. Good on defense, but not a good fit for us, his profile is too similar to Suggs. And first rounder will be a late one. While Simons is having a career season.
I’d to that trade in a heartbeat. Win win situation for the teams, AB is a good fit there, Simons is a good fit here.


You’re making the SAME EXACT mistake Bulls made when evaluating Vuc. Simons is good. He is not great. You’re overpaying by including AB.


Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.
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Post#1982 » by orlando_joe » Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:38 pm

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I’d do that deal for POR. Would probably move AB to a 3rd team as FO can’t move Scoot and lose face (and their jobs). I like AB more than Scoot but the optics make this tough


of course you would, daylight robbery :-)

Only on realgm


Yea, realgm, where Magic fans are so overrating there own players trade value. :lol:
Like I already said. Carter is injury prone. AB is not even in top 10 rookie ladder, despite playing big minutes. He is super bad on offense. Good on defense, but not a good fit for us, his profile is too similar to Suggs. And first rounder will be a late one. While Simons is having a career season.
I’d to that trade in a heartbeat. Win win situation for the teams, AB is a good fit there, Simons is a good fit here.

there is reason i try really hard to post on trade boards because i dont like to rip on magic fans trades to much..but this makes it hard..i will leave it at that...lol
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1983 » by orlando_joe » Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:44 pm

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thelead wrote:
CarraT wrote:
Yea, realgm, where Magic fans are so overrating there own players trade value. :lol:
Like I already said. Carter is injury prone. AB is not even in top 10 rookie ladder, despite playing big minutes. He is super bad on offense. Good on defense, but not a good fit for us, his profile is too similar to Suggs. And first rounder will be a late one. While Simons is having a career season.
I’d to that trade in a heartbeat. Win win situation for the teams, AB is a good fit there, Simons is a good fit here.


You’re making the SAME EXACT mistake Bulls made when evaluating Vuc. Simons is good. He is not great. You’re overpaying by including AB.


Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.

he would be number one target on defense every single min on the floor super weak link ...right now magic solid on d for a reason
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Post#1984 » by MasterGMer » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:16 pm

Is it possible to get into Lauri Markkanen sweepstakes?

How much would it cost? The biggest thing that intrigues me is we can get him while keeping Franz and Paolo.

We need to upgrade just like the whole league. To win the whole thing takes some gamble


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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1985 » by CarraT » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:53 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
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You’re making the SAME EXACT mistake Bulls made when evaluating Vuc. Simons is good. He is not great. You’re overpaying by including AB.


Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.

he would be number one target on defense every single min on the floor super weak link ...right now magic solid on d for a reason


With AB were playing 4 on 5 on offense. Simons shooting/gravity will create so much space for Wagner/Banchero to operate and develop better. Defensive role players are easy to get. Players with efficient 23 ppg and being elite from long distance, thats what we lack since T-Mac days. Suggs btw is already what AB may become at best. No need to have that redudancy.
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Post#1986 » by Furinkazan » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:54 pm

jezzerinho wrote:100 pages of a trade thread with zero trades!

Slowhand Jeff just keeps amblin' right along!!!

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Post#1987 » by Furinkazan » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:01 pm

eyriq wrote:Fultz and Harris for Poole



stooooooop with Poole nonesense...
dude is worst player in the NBA

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Post#1988 » by p0peye » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:22 pm

CarraT wrote:
thelead wrote:
CarraT wrote:
Yea, realgm, where Magic fans are so overrating there own players trade value. :lol:
Like I already said. Carter is injury prone. AB is not even in top 10 rookie ladder, despite playing big minutes. He is super bad on offense. Good on defense, but not a good fit for us, his profile is too similar to Suggs. And first rounder will be a late one. While Simons is having a career season.
I’d to that trade in a heartbeat. Win win situation for the teams, AB is a good fit there, Simons is a good fit here.


You’re making the SAME EXACT mistake Bulls made when evaluating Vuc. Simons is good. He is not great. You’re overpaying by including AB.


Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.


That would be correct comparison for Black's current performance, that's why I've been saying we should refrain from dissecting a player 30 games into his career.
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Post#1989 » by orlando_joe » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:26 pm

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orlando_joe wrote:
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Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.

he would be number one target on defense every single min on the floor super weak link ...right now magic solid on d for a reason


With AB were playing 4 on 5 on offense. Simons shooting/gravity will create so much space for Wagner/Banchero to operate and develop better. Defensive role players are easy to get. Players with efficient 23 ppg and being elite from long distance, thats what we lack since T-Mac days. Suggs btw is already what AB may become at best. No need to have that redudancy.

t-mac come on...better chance he could turn into poole ...does not mean you have to overpay thats way more then simons value..would hold assets for better fit...a 2-way player
playing goga and black with franz not hitting his 3s is whats making spacing bad
and yes i would take 2 suggs at guard please
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Post#1990 » by CarraT » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:47 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
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orlando_joe wrote:he would be number one target on defense every single min on the floor super weak link ...right now magic solid on d for a reason


With AB were playing 4 on 5 on offense. Simons shooting/gravity will create so much space for Wagner/Banchero to operate and develop better. Defensive role players are easy to get. Players with efficient 23 ppg and being elite from long distance, thats what we lack since T-Mac days. Suggs btw is already what AB may become at best. No need to have that redudancy.

t-mac come on...better chance he could turn into poole ...does not mean you have to overpay thats way more then simons value..would hold assets for better fit...a 2-way player
playing goga and black with franz not hitting his 3s is whats making spacing bad
and yes i would take 2 suggs at guard please


Never said Simons is as good as T-Mac.
And no, Franz is still respected and guarded. AB is being left wide open because he cant shoot and gets 5 ppg. Never understood how people here are saying our franchise players are the problem, just to defend the big weaknesses of our role players. Same thing happens with Fultz.
Let me know about the two-player whos hitting efficient 23ppg from long distance and is available for an always-injured decent center, a rookie who is not even ranked top 10, and a late 1st rounder.
We dont need two Suggs. He developed great, i love him and think he is untouchable. But we need someone with different strengths to complement our core of Suggs, Franz, Paolo.
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Post#1991 » by CarraT » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:53 pm

p0peye wrote:
CarraT wrote:
thelead wrote:
You’re making the SAME EXACT mistake Bulls made when evaluating Vuc. Simons is good. He is not great. You’re overpaying by including AB.


Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.


That would be correct comparison for Black's current performance, that's why I've been saying we should refrain from dissecting a player 30 games into his career.


Not all players develop well. MCWs best year was his rookie season. For AB, i dont believe he will be anything more than a defensive role player. He never scored a lot, HS, college, rookie season. His shot looked bad all the time. Suggs, as comparison, was shooting bad %, but his form was great, his confidence was great, you could easily see him becoming at least an average shooter. I dont see that for AB. And his playmaking was always overrated. He never had high assist numbers, not even in college. Hes getting 3.2 assist per 36 mins. Thats decent. For a center :lol: Never understood that people saw him as a pg.
Can he develop into more? Sure. I just dont see it. And Simons is young, too. He can develop, too. He never played with talented Forwards, they will benefit from each other so much. Just a great fit, instead of AB.
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Post#1992 » by p0peye » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:58 pm

CarraT wrote:
p0peye wrote:
CarraT wrote:
Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.


That would be correct comparison for Black's current performance, that's why I've been saying we should refrain from dissecting a player 30 games into his career.


Not all players develop well. MCWs best year was his rookie season. For AB, i dont believe he will be anything more than a defensive role player. He never scored a lot, HS, college, rookie season. His shot looked bad all the time. Suggs, as comparison, was shooting bad %, but his form was great, his confidence was great, you could easily see him becoming at least an average shooter. I dont see that for AB. And his playmaking was always overrated. He never had high assist numbers, not even in college. Hes getting 3.2 assist per 36 mins. Thats decent. For a center :lol: Never understood that people saw him as a pg.
Can he develop into more? Sure. I just dont see it. And Simons is young, too. He can develop, too. He never played with talented Forwards, they will benefit from each other so much. Just a great fit, instead of AB.


That can only be said two year from now. If we think about trading Black for a good value, he is not a type of prospect that is untouchable.
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Post#1993 » by CarraT » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:00 pm

p0peye wrote:
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p0peye wrote:
That would be correct comparison for Black's current performance, that's why I've been saying we should refrain from dissecting a player 30 games into his career.


Not all players develop well. MCWs best year was his rookie season. For AB, i dont believe he will be anything more than a defensive role player. He never scored a lot, HS, college, rookie season. His shot looked bad all the time. Suggs, as comparison, was shooting bad %, but his form was great, his confidence was great, you could easily see him becoming at least an average shooter. I dont see that for AB. And his playmaking was always overrated. He never had high assist numbers, not even in college. Hes getting 3.2 assist per 36 mins. Thats decent. For a center :lol: Never understood that people saw him as a pg.
Can he develop into more? Sure. I just dont see it. And Simons is young, too. He can develop, too. He never played with talented Forwards, they will benefit from each other so much. Just a great fit, instead of AB.


That can only be said two year from now. If we think about trading Black for a good value, he is not a type of prospect that is untouchable.


Of course. I never stated things as a fact. Just my opinion.
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Post#1994 » by MasterGMer » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:02 pm

Guys, AB is only a rookie and 19 years old!


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Post#1995 » by eyriq » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:02 pm

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thelead wrote:
CarraT wrote:
Yea, realgm, where Magic fans are so overrating there own players trade value.
Like I already said. Carter is injury prone. AB is not even in top 10 rookie ladder, despite playing big minutes. He is super bad on offense. Good on defense, but not a good fit for us, his profile is too similar to Suggs. And first rounder will be a late one. While Simons is having a career season.
I’d to that trade in a heartbeat. Win win situation for the teams, AB is a good fit there, Simons is a good fit here.


You’re making the SAME EXACT mistake Bulls made when evaluating Vuc. Simons is good. He is not great. You’re overpaying by including AB.


Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.
Oh man this is just a crazy statement.
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Post#1996 » by eyriq » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:03 pm

Furinkazan wrote:
eyriq wrote:Fultz and Harris for Poole



stooooooop with Poole nonesense...
dude is worst player in the NBA

https://youtu.be/eWgxJFtbx8A?t=448
Update: Fultz and Harris for Poole and Kispert
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Post#1997 » by CarraT » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:04 pm

MasterGMer wrote:Guys, AB is only a rookie and 19 years old!


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Thanks for that information, didn´t knew it.
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Post#1998 » by CarraT » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:06 pm

eyriq wrote:
CarraT wrote:
thelead wrote:
You’re making the SAME EXACT mistake Bulls made when evaluating Vuc. Simons is good. He is not great. You’re overpaying by including AB.


Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.
Oh man this is just a crazy statement.


Mark my words.
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Post#1999 » by Fortune Teller » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:07 pm

Black was out last night but he managed the same stat line that he often puts up -- 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 threes. He's extremely consistent.
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Post#2000 » by MasterGMer » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:15 pm

CarraT wrote:
eyriq wrote:
CarraT wrote:
Dont agree. AB is on path to next MCW, while Simons is such a good fit here.
Oh man this is just a crazy statement.


Mark my words.

Let me ask you a wild question:

For the future of this team being successful in the playoff, who do you prefer from our PG rotation to be traded now? Markelle or AB?


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