Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0

[IceColdCubano]

There’s likely to be somewhat of a bidding war for all of these players, they’re all good and can all help a team. At some point we have to be the team that finally says fuxk it and offers up a little more to get something done. Maybe everyone offers up a 1st and we go the extra mile and offer up Jovic and/or a 2nd or another 1st depending on the player but we’re not just going to be handed one of these guys. You have to give to get and you have to beat other offers as well. That’s just the way it is!

I think from our point of view the bidding war won't be as aggressive as seasons past. Looking around at contenders, they all have a premier level PG starters on board. It would come from a secondary tier team looking to bolster for the future, someone edging in at the playing at best. Good thing about those teams, because their building they may be hesitant to just blow their picks as easily as a contender would to get them to the prize.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

There’s likely to be somewhat of a bidding war for all of these players, they’re all good and can all help a team. At some point we have to be the team that finally says fuxk it and offers up a little more to get something done. Maybe everyone offers up a 1st and we go the extra mile and offer up Jovic and/or a 2nd or another 1st depending on the player but we’re not just going to be handed one of these guys. You have to give to get and you have to beat other offers as well. That’s just the way it is!

I think from our point of view the bidding war won't be as aggressive as seasons past. Looking around at contenders, they all have a premier level PG starters on board. It would come from a secondary tier team looking to bolster for the future, someone edging in at the playing at best. Good thing about those teams, because their building they may be hesitant to just blow their picks as easily as a contender would to get them to the prize.

I personally would not be shocked at all to see any team in the playoffs or in the playoff race in the East try to bolster their roster. Schroder would be a massive boost for someone like the Bucks or Celtics. No clue what the deal would be but that’s just off the top of my head. Tyus jones would be a massive boost to teams. Those guys would be the best backup PGs or near best in the league.

We know the Sixers and Celtics are already rumored to be looking.

[DBurks2818]

What I hope is that teams don’t just gift solid players to Bucks/6ers/Celtics, who all have very little to trade with. It would be so annoying to see that happen, when over the last decade teams wouldn’t dare trade with the Heat when they were the ones at the top of the conference in. They didn’t want to help a contender in that case, but all of a sudden might want to do so now? I hope not.

[IceColdCubano]

There’s likely to be somewhat of a bidding war for all of these players, they’re all good and can all help a team. At some point we have to be the team that finally says fuxk it and offers up a little more to get something done. Maybe everyone offers up a 1st and we go the extra mile and offer up Jovic and/or a 2nd or another 1st depending on the player but we’re not just going to be handed one of these guys. You have to give to get and you have to beat other offers as well. That’s just the way it is!

I think from our point of view the bidding war won't be as aggressive as seasons past. Looking around at contenders, they all have a premier level PG starters on board. It would come from a secondary tier team looking to bolster for the future, someone edging in at the playing at best. Good thing about those teams, because their building they may be hesitant to just blow their picks as easily as a contender would to get them to the prize.

I personally would not be shocked at all to see any team in the playoffs or in the playoff race in the East try to bolster their roster. Schroder would be a massive boost for someone like the Bucks or Celtics. No clue what the deal would be but that’s just off the top of my head. Tyus jones would be a massive boost to teams. Those guys would be the best backup PGs or near best in the league.

We know the Sixers and Celtics are already rumored to be looking.

The Celtics are just rumor mill filler, Celtics and Boston Executive has stated he is looking for a wing, and they don't have much in the cap space for anything larger than 9M on the Market so that puts them out of the bigger PG in the market. The Sixers have a bit more leway to make trades as they have contracts they can move and some picks. Milwaukee is looking for bench depth but don't have a market to use larger salaries unless their losing on core players. In the East the only I can see making any movements are the Sixers, or the Pacers for a win now move. New York has a ton of picks but a PG isn't on their list of gets, nor do they have the cap space to take on anything big to fill into their bench without losing a core piece. Shroeder & Tyus are the most movable of the bunch do to their lower salary.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

What I hope is that teams don’t just gift solid players to Bucks/6ers/Celtics, who all have very little to trade with. It would be so annoying to see that happen, when over the last decade teams wouldn’t dare trade with the Heat when they were the ones at the top of the conference in. They didn’t want to help a contender in that case, but all of a sudden might want to do so now? I hope not.

The Lakers are going to BS their way into Mitchell and Murray for DLo reaves rui Hayes and a 1st and everyone is going to lie to themselves and say it was a good deal for all teams involved because it’s the Lakers

[IceColdCubano]

What I hope is that teams don’t just gift solid players to Bucks/6ers/Celtics, who all have very little to trade with. It would be so annoying to see that happen, when over the last decade teams wouldn’t dare trade with the Heat when they were the ones at the top of the conference in. They didn’t want to help a contender in that case, but all of a sudden might want to do so now? I hope not.

The Lakers are going to BS their way into Mitchell and Murray for DLo reaves rui Hayes and a 1st and everyone is going to lie to themselves and say it was a good deal for all teams involved because it’s the Lakers

I can totally see them getting away with that with Murray but not Donovan though, lol.

[Pokuokic]

Brogdan is still the one for the Heat

[MettaWorldPanda]

Brogdan is still the one for the Heat

I see Brogdon landing in Orlando for some reason. Maybe Fultz going back to the pacific northwest

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I wouldn’t be mad at Malcolm

[Wiltside]

I wouldn’t be mad at Malcolm

He'd be a nice fit. He's the type of guard we like in that he's not really a pure Point, he can comfortably play off ball too.

Surprisingly, he's 31, so he's not a spring chicken. He can also be pretty injury prone. However, if the cost was Lowry and change I'd do it in a heartbeat. He'd be a significant upgrade for us at the 1, and you know he'd be pretty juiced to face the Celtics in the Playoffs after being dumped for Holiday. Has 2yrs at $22.5m per remaining on his deal, so not sure how that fits in with the various salary cap issues we have at present.

Also, Cronin....

[IceColdCubano]

I wouldn’t be mad at Malcolm

He'd be a nice fit. He's the type of guard we like in that he's not really a pure Point, he can comfortably play off ball too.

Surprisingly, he's 31, so he's not a spring chicken. He can also be pretty injury prone. However, if the cost was Lowry and change I'd do it in a heartbeat. He'd be a significant upgrade for us at the 1, and you know he'd be pretty juiced to face the Celtics in the Playoffs after being dumped for Holiday. Has 2yrs at $22.5m per remaining on his deal, so not sure how that fits in with the various salary cap issues we have at present.

Also, Cronin....

Nothing would piss me off more than giving Cronin salary cap relief when he deserves a turd covered cookie.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I wouldn’t be mad at Malcolm

He'd be a nice fit. He's the type of guard we like in that he's not really a pure Point, he can comfortably play off ball too.

Surprisingly, he's 31, so he's not a spring chicken. He can also be pretty injury prone. However, if the cost was Lowry and change I'd do it in a heartbeat. He'd be a significant upgrade for us at the 1, and you know he'd be pretty juiced to face the Celtics in the Playoffs after being dumped for Holiday. Has 2yrs at $22.5m per remaining on his deal, so not sure how that fits in with the various salary cap issues we have at present.

Also, Cronin....

Nothing would piss me off more than giving Cronin salary cap relief when he deserves a turd covered cookie.

Yeah we have Cronin on the chit list. No way we making a deal with Portland until he's fired or they give us an offer we can't refuse.

[Flash4thewin]

What I hope is that teams don’t just gift solid players to Bucks/6ers/Celtics, who all have very little to trade with. It would be so annoying to see that happen, when over the last decade teams wouldn’t dare trade with the Heat when they were the ones at the top of the conference in. They didn’t want to help a contender in that case, but all of a sudden might want to do so now? I hope not.

This is where the ability to have a personal working relationship with front offices comes into play. Do you think anyone in Portland will want to work with Pat after this offseason? Do you think good old Danny running the show in Utah will help Pat out? Do we even need to mention Klutch? The list goes on, etc. Thats not to say a deal is impossible but do expect to pay a hefty premium.

[Wiltside]

Might not be a popular one, but if Golden State decides to blow up the core (outside of Steph) and start a proper rebuild, I could definitely see Riley being interested in Draymond Green.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Would be funny if Toronto pulls this off and ends up trading Siakim to the Bulls for Pat Williams (Reuniting him with Barnes) and then brings back DeRozan. Then trades Schroder for Lowry. Reuniting both Lowry and DeRozan in Toronto for one last hurrah.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I trust guys like Schroder and brogdon to be a good scoring punch in the playoffs. Not as good as bubble
Dragic but respectable. Those guys have experience being the best or close to best player on their teams. 15-18 PPG behind our top 3 would not surprise me. 2 more guys to the list I prefer over Jones

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Kind of feel bad seeing Derozan go out like this, he’s still playing good basketball

[DBurks2818]

What I hope is that teams don’t just gift solid players to Bucks/6ers/Celtics, who all have very little to trade with. It would be so annoying to see that happen, when over the last decade teams wouldn’t dare trade with the Heat when they were the ones at the top of the conference in. They didn’t want to help a contender in that case, but all of a sudden might want to do so now? I hope not.

This is where the ability to have a personal working relationship with front offices comes into play. Do you think anyone in Portland will want to work with Pat after this offseason? Do you think good old Danny running the show in Utah will help Pat out? Do we even need to mention Klutch? The list goes on, etc. Thats not to say a deal is impossible but do expect to pay a hefty premium.

Yeah, that might be part of the reason. I still think distaste for wanting to make the Heat, in particular, better, or (more likely) fear of losing a trade to an all-time GM in Pat Riley, were bigger factors.

Though you’re right that a good working relationship should not be understated. Riley & co. clearly have one with certain GMs like Presti. I bet it killed them having to work with the amateurs in Portland for a whole summer.

[MettaWorldPanda]

https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/toronto-raptors-miami-heat-kyle-lowry-talks-retirement-and-one-day-contract

Trade this man back to his rightful home.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam and Caleb martin hold their opponents to the 3rd and 4th worst shooting percentages in the league