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Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2

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Re: Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2 

Post#1521 » by Raptors_128 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:49 pm

Pacers aren’t a serious team. They are okay just making the playoffs every year.
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Re: Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2 

Post#1522 » by Chalky_White » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:51 pm

Bruin wrote:
Chalky_White wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Siakam, Poeltl for Hardaway Jr, Williams, Holmes, Lively II, Green, Pick


Mavs:
Poeltl
Siakam
Jones Jr
Irving
Doncic

Raps:
Lively II
Barnes
Barret
Green
Quickley


Dallas ain't trading you Derek Lively for Siakam and a washed Poeltl. Dont even waste your time.

Maybe last offseason but he's their prized youngster now who isn't being dealt for a rental.

That’s fine. Dallas can settle for another early playoff exit. Kyrie isn’t getting any younger so if they wanna capitalize on winning something while Luka still has him as a sidekick


They probably think they can get him on a sign and trade this summer. Siakam and his folks will request it and Masai will oblige them by taking THJ and Richaun Holmes off their hands. Lowry-Miami 2.0

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Re: Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2 

Post#1523 » by HangTime » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:52 pm

Could a trade involve a stipulation where if Pascal re-signs with the team he's traded to, then we get an additional 1st round pick from them.
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Post#1524 » by mtcan » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:53 pm

I have felt like this for 3 trade deadlines in a row. In 2021...we were expecting Norm and Kyle to go and ended up with GTJ. 2022...we got Thad but had to swap a first round pick. Last year was hoping to see Fred, OG, Pascal and Gary all traded for prospects and complementary guys to surround Scottie...and ended up with Jak. I'm expecting to be disappointed in the next few weeks.
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Post#1525 » by MAD ROB » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:53 pm

HangTime wrote:Could a trade involve a stipulation where if Pascal re-signs with the team he's traded to, then we get an additional 1st round pick from them.


No
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Post#1526 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:55 pm

mtcan wrote:I have felt like this for 3 trade deadlines in a row. In 2022...we were expecting Norm and Kyle to go and ended up with GTJ. Last year was hoping to see Fred, OG, Pascal and Gary all traded for prospects and complementary guys to surround Scottie...and ended up with Jak. I'm expecting to be disappointed in the next few weeks.


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Post#1527 » by TorontoBarneys » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:55 pm

At this point if you can get 2 future 1sts for him you take it and be happy you got anything.
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Post#1528 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:56 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
Scase wrote:You're more than welcome to be naive and ignore how every other player handles these situations, the rest of us will live in reality.


Has there ever been a story like this before where a fanbase is questioning why a player wants to stay? Maybe we should start there.


Why isn't a deal done then?


What do you mean?
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Post#1529 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:56 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:I dont see Pritchard and Masai making a deal. Both guys want to overtake the other. This is going to the TD to see which team cracks

Be prepared for PS to be a UFA

I don’t see a scenario where Siakam goes to UFA and the FO can keep their jobs.

You can’t lose an asset for nothing again just because you don’t have leverage in a trade.


Masai will faster cover his azz and sign him to a 5 year max before that happens.

The causal fan will see it as a huge win, Masai will save his job. Then he'll add some talent on thr fringes.

Chances that Trent is moved is much greater than Siakam.
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Post#1530 » by hyper316 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:57 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:Waiting till the deadline at this stage makes no sense. We're just wasting time when we should be developing chemistry between the team. You can't chance this in free agency or you're looking at a Lowry like return while Siakam changes more money in a sign and trade. At that stage even Barnes, Huerter and pick is better.


Throw in Davion and I'll take the deal. Davion can play POA defense.

Davion and Sengun were my picks before we got 4th
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Post#1531 » by mtcan » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:58 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
mtcan wrote:I have felt like this for 3 trade deadlines in a row. In 2022...we were expecting Norm and Kyle to go and ended up with GTJ. Last year was hoping to see Fred, OG, Pascal and Gary all traded for prospects and complementary guys to surround Scottie...and ended up with Jak. I'm expecting to be disappointed in the next few weeks.


You missed the thad young year

lol yes...I realized it after rereading it but you quoted me before I could save...lol. But yes the Thad trade was another deadline letdown.
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Post#1532 » by Kreamy » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:01 pm

I'm starting to think all the rumors around Indiana and Atlanta are just smoke.

I think it'll end up being Dallas or Golden State. I can see Siakam easily re-signing with either team.

Dallas offer Green, Williams, Prosper, THJ, our 2025 SRP and the their 2027 FRP.

Golden State offer Paul, Moody, Kuminga and maybe a pick.

Indiana will probably end up giving up way less for Kuzma or Jerami Grant. These are their types of trades.
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Post#1533 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:04 pm

Kreamy wrote:I'm starting to think all the rumors around Indiana and Atlanta are just smoke.

I think it'll end up being Dallas or Golden State. I can see Siakam easily re-signing with either team.

Dallas offer Green, Williams, Prosper, THJ, our 2025 SRP and the their 2027 FRP.

Golden State offer Paul, Moody, Kuminga and maybe a pick.

Indiana will probably end up giving up way less for Kuzma or Jerami Grant. These are their types of trades.


Yeah, I only see Pascal re-signing with Dallas or Warriors tbh.
He wants to win. Pacers are still a few pieces away from contention and the Hawks are straight up awful.

Luka and Kyrie are locked up for a couple more years as well, so Pascal will have 2-3 tries to win a title with that duo.
A trio of Luka/Kyrie/Siakam are title favorites and I'd cheer for them come post-season.
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Post#1534 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:05 pm

Madvillainy2004 wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:Indy is not serious. I still firmly believe the talks are dead, despite what Lowe says. Thy don't want Kuzma, that is just nonsensical media games. The problem for them is Masai won't fall for any of it.


Lol yeah if they want Kuzma go get him then.


It'll be the first, and last time, a team ever said "hey let's go get Kyle Kuzma to pair with our superstar stud".
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Post#1535 » by Tripod » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:12 pm

hyper316 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Waiting till the deadline at this stage makes no sense. We're just wasting time when we should be developing chemistry between the team. You can't chance this in free agency or you're looking at a Lowry like return while Siakam changes more money in a sign and trade. At that stage even Barnes, Huerter and pick is better.


Throw in Davion and I'll take the deal. Davion can play POA defense.

Davion and Sengun were my picks before we got 4th

Just what we need in Davion, a guy who can't shoot
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Post#1536 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:13 pm

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Re: Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2 

Post#1537 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:14 pm

hyper316 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Waiting till the deadline at this stage makes no sense. We're just wasting time when we should be developing chemistry between the team. You can't chance this in free agency or you're looking at a Lowry like return while Siakam changes more money in a sign and trade. At that stage even Barnes, Huerter and pick is better.


Throw in Davion and I'll take the deal. Davion can play POA defense.

Davion and Sengun were my picks before we got 4th


Davion stinks man. I had high hopes for him coming out of Baylor but he's Flynn level bad, if not worse.
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Re: Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2 

Post#1538 » by bobbyp3588 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:16 pm

I’m so over this little biatch and his trade value tanking rhetoric. Screw him.
Let’s cap him at 20 mins per game (we’re not winning games regardless) and he can enter free agency with a line of 12/3/2 and see what he gets offered. Maybe someone will give him the mle.
Can’t wait to be rid of this jackass.
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Re: Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2 

Post#1539 » by Pointgod » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:21 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:At this point if you can get 2 future 1sts for him you take it and be happy you got anything.


Masai is boxing himself in asking for young potential stars. The focus should be on flexibility, the Sixers got poop for Harden but they have the assets to make a deal for a superstar. You don’t have to get everything you want in one trade
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Re: Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread 2 

Post#1540 » by johanliebert » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:21 pm

If its come to this maybe hes requested a trade years ago but Masai has been waiting for the right deal.

Ive wanted him gone since the bubble and i doubt they’ll get what this board wants for Pascal. Him leaving will be addition by subtraction.

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