Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, Kira Lewis and 3 first round picks

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Post#262 » by Jadoogar » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:26 pm

Effigy wrote:Well it’s done. I hope he resigns or this looks like a yikes.

At least 2 of the picks are this year in a bad draft though. Raptor fans who wanted to give up their pick this year because the draft is so bad may now have 3 firsts in it.


2 picks in the the 20s and 1 pick in 2026 is well worth the risk. Pacers weren't going to get a player like Siakam any other way.

This is a great gamble
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#263 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:27 pm

Crazy we didn't even manage to get one of Toppin or Smith. That front court is so crowded.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#264 » by dockingsched » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:28 pm

Type of a deal a non-free agent destination needs to make if we’re being honest.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#266 » by phanman » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:28 pm

HOW DID WE NOT GET A BIG!?!?!? OR A MATHURIN/NEMHARD?!
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#267 » by TheAlchemist » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:28 pm

What a god damn blunder from Masai.

Two picks in the 20s and a future pick in the 20s. Plus a role player.

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Post#268 » by MrGoat » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:29 pm

Well done by the Pacers. Siakam fits them too well not to do this. Not too expensive for a player of Siakam's level who is in his prime years either.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#269 » by _jin » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:29 pm

Not sure about the move for Raptors and Pacers, but great move for Pels, getting rid of Lewis for a 2nd round pick enable them to get under the luxury tax.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#270 » by CallMeKahn » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:30 pm

Braggins wrote:There is some risk to this for the Pacers but damn this is going to be fun in the short term at least.

It'll probably come out that Siakam will agree to a max extension. I don't imagine the Pacers make this deal otherwise.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#271 » by TravisScott55 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:31 pm

Indiana completely fleeced Toronto.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#272 » by Bornstellar » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:31 pm

I don't think this return is all that bad for a guy that Toronto obviously didn't want to resign and was in the last year of his deal. If he doesn't stay in Indy this is a terrible trade for them though
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#273 » by bisme37 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:31 pm

Raps fans y'all got 3 firsts for an expiring player and now you can flip Bruce Brown for more. Good haul imo.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#274 » by Dominator83 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:31 pm

PushDaRock wrote:Crazy we didn't even manage to get one of Toppin or Smith. That front court is so crowded.

That part is weird. Not enough minutes to go around for those 2
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#275 » by Effigy » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:32 pm

Raptor fans have unreasonable expectations. 3 firsts for a half year rental is a good return. Way better than letting him walk like you did Fred.

It is weird that they did it now rather than wait for the trade deadline to see if the offer got better, but maybe they wanted to start the tank early to keep their pick.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#276 » by HoopsterJones » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:32 pm

Got to see what these FRPs are and what protections they have.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#277 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:32 pm

one side its an overpayment
one side its a **** deal

so basically its a decent deal for a guy not resigning with the team that traded him
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#278 » by EricAnderson » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:33 pm

Masai held on too go way too long and killed his value

The two picks this year womt be worth much and the Pacers should still be really good in two years.

None of these picks should be much
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#279 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:33 pm

Effigy wrote:Raptor fans have unreasonable expectations. 3 firsts for a half year rental is a good return. Way better than letting him walk like you did Fred.

It is weird that they did it now rather than wait for the trade deadline to see if the offer got better, but maybe they wanted to start the tank early to keep their pick.


well Indiana giving up the 3 firsts was probably the best deal out there. they cannot wait.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#280 » by phanman » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:34 pm

bisme37 wrote:Raps fans y'all got 3 firsts for an expiring player and now you can flip Bruce Brown for more. Good haul imo.

Knowing Masai, we'll keep him :roll:

I just wanted at least one of their young prospects, Nwora is not it.

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