Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, Kira Lewis and 3 first round picks

[TGW]

Pacers absolutely worked Masai here. Great deal for them, not a contender but low risk high reward.

Your self loathing is approaching embarrassing levels. Let go of the hate, dude.

This. terrible poster.

[The Laker Kid]

Guys, it's SiakAm, not Siakim.

[Johnny Bball]

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That last part...

Need a day to re-route Brown.

If you mean re-sign Siakam, he never was going to say no to that much money. His agent has already been talking about his great future in Indy.

[G R E Y]

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That last part...

Need a day to re-route Brown.

I meant about Siakam re-signing:

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[Ruma85]

Raptors made out like bandits

Yes they did , they got 3 FRP and solid 6 th man in Brown or they can flip him for more picks for a guy they didn’t wanted to max

Siakam will age terrible I think , He will be in China soon anyways

[Pacernation]

I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that we got robbed. The 24 picks are probably in the 20s and we allready have too many young guys. Our 2 first round selections can't get playing time so there would be no way we would pick two more rookies and give them playing time. The 26 pick hurts a little bit but I think we can live with that. The only thing that really hurts is the departure of Brucy, but it is what it is. Of course this all changes when Pascal leaves us in the offseason. That makes it from great to horrible, but I guess we have to take these kind of risks with a guy like Hali on the team. You accumulate assets and capspace for scenarios like this. Pritchard set this up pretty great imo. And I really don't see a comparable guy that is available for our picks and some assets..

[tdotrep2]

Raptors made out like bandits

Yes they did , they got 3 FRP and solid 6 th man in Brown or they can flip him for more picks for a guy they didn’t wanted to max

Siakam will age terrible I think , He will be in China soon anyways

jesus christ

[Johnny Bball]

I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that we got robbed. The 24 picks are probably in the 20s and we allready have too many young guys. Our 2 first round selections can't get playing time so there would be no way we would pick two more rookies and give them playing time. The 26 pick hurts a little bit but I think we can live with that. The only thing that really hurts is the departure of Brucy, but it is what it is. Of course this all changes when Pascal leaves us in the offseason. That makes it from great to horrible, but I guess we have to take these kind of risks with a guy like Hali on the team. You accumulate assets and capspace for scenarios like this. Pritchard set this up pretty great imo. And I really don't see a comparable guy that is available for our picks and some assets..

Pacers did not get robbed. Thats foolish.

[Duffman100]

Raptors made out like bandits

Yes they did , they got 3 FRP and solid 6 th man in Brown or they can flip him for more picks for a guy they didn’t wanted to max

Siakam will age terrible I think , He will be in China soon anyways

jesus christ

Yeah that's just a ridiculous opinion.

[WuTang_CMB]

Picks always a mystery, so you gotta come back on this deal after 2024

Indiana gotta max him now

[Effigy]

Raptor fans have unreasonable expectations. 3 firsts for a half year rental is a good return. Way better than letting him walk like you did Fred.

It is weird that they did it now rather than wait for the trade deadline to see if the offer got better, but maybe they wanted to start the tank early to keep their pick.

but it's not just a rental, we all know this. I'm assuming he resigns with the Pacers at the 4 year max. I'm not saying there wasn't risk, just that the risk wasn't all that high.

2 of the 3 picks we know will be in the 20s (currently 17 and 27)

The Lakers thought they weren’t renting Dwight Howard for one season when they traded for him either. You can’t assume anything. Siakam may very well still leave. Without a contract extension you can’t assume.

[Courtside]

The Pacers robbed them considering how bad the picks will be. Late first-round picks have very little value.

You mean like Pascal Siakam, who was picked at 27?

I think Indy overpaid by at least 1 draft pick given the flight risk of Siakam, but what percentage of guys drafted in the 20-30 range turn into all-stars?

I think the nominal flight risk is why it ended up being the 3 picks, instead of a prospect like Mathurin or Walker being included.

As for the late first all-stars, that wasn't really the argument was it? He said they had very little value, while teams like Toronto and Miami seem to get pretty good value out of those spots. How other teams normally do in those spots matters a little, but 3 picks is still 3 picks. Toronto can trade them elsewhere if they choose, which then changes their value again. It will be years before this can be known, and while every team does want their picks as high as possible, Toronto tends to do well in this range.

[Syd-TK3]

I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that we got robbed. The 24 picks are probably in the 20s and we allready have too many young guys. Our 2 first round selections can't get playing time so there would be no way we would pick two more rookies and give them playing time. The 26 pick hurts a little bit but I think we can live with that. The only thing that really hurts is the departure of Brucy, but it is what it is. Of course this all changes when Pascal leaves us in the offseason. That makes it from great to horrible, but I guess we have to take these kind of risks with a guy like Hali on the team. You accumulate assets and capspace for scenarios like this. Pritchard set this up pretty great imo. And I really don't see a comparable guy that is available for our picks and some assets..

Pacers gave up 1 rotation player no young guys and 1 legit pick in 2026. For an All nba foward that is most likely resigning

[ArksNetsSince99]

I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that we got robbed. The 24 picks are probably in the 20s and we allready have too many young guys. Our 2 first round selections can't get playing time so there would be no way we would pick two more rookies and give them playing time. The 26 pick hurts a little bit but I think we can live with that. The only thing that really hurts is the departure of Brucy, but it is what it is. Of course this all changes when Pascal leaves us in the offseason. That makes it from great to horrible, but I guess we have to take these kind of risks with a guy like Hali on the team. You accumulate assets and capspace for scenarios like this. Pritchard set this up pretty great imo. And I really don't see a comparable guy that is available for our picks and some assets..

His name is Bruce Brown ( BB gun ) recent Champion , best Fourth player on a Championship team

You don’t trade for Siakam and give away this kind of player , Pacers just removed themselves from the contention by simply doing that

Toronto won this trade , they traded unwanted piece

[Lalouie]

Pacers are desperate for an all star to team with Haliburton, but is Siakam that guy? I don’t love the fit next to Haliburton.

maybe he's the guy THIS YEAR

you can't be sitting on hope. if something is there you grab it

it's indy after all

[daschysta]

Guys late picks on an all time bad draft are not that valuable, they convey this year (two of them) teams routinely trade those for cash, and to avoid guaranteed contracts, early second round picks are often seen as better. Brown was on a team option and was likely acquired for this very purpose.

When you have a young superstar as the Pacers do, you surround him with talent, and Siakam gives them a window to compete, especially since their entire core is intact, before hali was hurt they were the four seed and had the best post Christmas record in the NBA. If you can get an all-star- all nba type guy, like Pascal for such a low price, you do it, especially since resigning him with his bird rights is essentially a formality.

You have a talent like Haliburton you get him pieces to play with.

[Dom801e]

I like it for both teams. Still possible they both make another move as well.

[One_and_Done]

The picks will be bad. Masai worked himself by not moving Siakam a year ago. Clown show.

[nikster]

Yes they did , they got 3 FRP and solid 6 th man in Brown or they can flip him for more picks for a guy they didn’t wanted to max

Siakam will age terrible I think , He will be in China soon anyways

jesus christ

Yeah that's just a ridiculous opinion.

Half the Raptors board thinks we got fleeced lol. The instant hot takes are always funny, they're on both extremes

[nikster]

I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that we got robbed. The 24 picks are probably in the 20s and we allready have too many young guys. Our 2 first round selections can't get playing time so there would be no way we would pick two more rookies and give them playing time. The 26 pick hurts a little bit but I think we can live with that. The only thing that really hurts is the departure of Brucy, but it is what it is. Of course this all changes when Pascal leaves us in the offseason. That makes it from great to horrible, but I guess we have to take these kind of risks with a guy like Hali on the team. You accumulate assets and capspace for scenarios like this. Pritchard set this up pretty great imo. And I really don't see a comparable guy that is available for our picks and some assets..

His name is Bruce Brown ( BB gun ) recent Champion , best Fourth player on a Championship team

You don’t trade for Siakam and give away this kind of player , Pacers just removed themselves from the contention by simply doing that

Toronto won this trade , they traded unwanted piece

Pascal was 2nd/3rd best player on a title team and has since made all nba and all star teams...