Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations

[seanbig]

Not sure what the issue here is. We already knew the family wasn't interested in cooperating with police. They did hire some top knotch lawyer Gloria Allred though.

I just figured everyone knew know criminal charges were never coming and that a civil suit is what will likely happen if giddy doesn’t wife her.

Fixed

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

The funny thing about crimes, is that you need a witness. That's basically why this went away.

…in this instance you need a victim, which there doesn’t appear to be one.

That's assuming an underage person can consent. They can't.

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

[GrandTheftRondo]

…in this instance you need a victim, which there doesn’t appear to be one.

That's assuming an underage person can consent. They can't.

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

Yep.

Reality is nobody knows the specifics of the situation.

Everyone is making assumptions based off Twitter posts and news “sources”.

[clyde21]

You don't think any person has ever been cleared of a crime they committed? Actually, you don't think that happens quite often?

so whats your point here exactly? that he should be treated as guilty despite being cleared?

The comprehension skills from you peeps need some work. None of us know what happened so jumping to conclusions either way is equally stupid. Is that clear enough?

It's called "Innocent until proven guilty" not "maybe he did it well never know!"

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

…in this instance you need a victim, which there doesn’t appear to be one.

That's assuming an underage person can consent. They can't.

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

Sure, but he still banged a minor if that's the case.

[NbaAllDay]

What's wrong with making opinions on a headline. This is a forum and people share their opinions, I wouldn't expect anything less.

If Giddey was accused of stealing a car, people would call him a dumbass before anything was proven true. No one would have a problem with that. Because this is sexual in nature, people aren't expected to have opinions?

This isn't a court where people are innocent until proven guilty. This is the public and social media where often times it's the opposite. Just how it is.

And this is the problem. Just because something 'is' doesn't make it right, helpful or not extremely harmful to a person or people.

Just because people are entitled to their opinion, doesn't mean they should feel the need to share it, especially if they have 0 thought or evidence.

You are normalising behaviour that can be extremely harmful to people and that's pathetic to me.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

That's assuming an underage person can consent. They can't.

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

Sure, but he still banged a minor if that's case.

Sure, in a pure legal sense. If a husband spanks his wife without consent during sex he has committed assault in a pure legal sense too.

Sometimes the world would be better off learning some context in the grey areas....especially when no one is saying they have had a crime committed against them.

[Baz]

Can I just say from a mostly 'male' board (I get thats an assumption but it's probably a fairly solid one) It's pretty disappointing seeing some of the reactions here.

This kind of attitude and sentiment demolishes a lot of Men every year.

What we know is there is 0 real proof he did anything wrong, yet the amount of people who jumped onto the accusations as if they were 100% true and still consider him as guilty and make up reasons such as 'the NBA paid them off' is pathetic.

Could the allegations be true? Sure. Is anything proven? No

So before you get up in your feels and assume guilt before anything is proven, remember that you could be the next Male being accused of something without proof and have your life ruined very easily.

I've seen it done, and it will continue to happen with these horrid attitudes.

That is true but it is also true that it's dangerous to jump to the defense of an accused offender without at least some level of skeptisism because in most cases, let's be honest, it's almost impossible to prove. The Giddey stuff is not nearly on the same level, but I have two female friends who were sexually assaulted. Both of them did not even take it to the police because they knew there wouldn't be justice. And they are both severely damaged because of it, in therapy, one of them now on a high dose of an antidepressant, and they have to live with that trauma. I knew them before and after these assaults took place and they are not the same people they were. Auto believing accusers is not the way but they should be taken seriously at least.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

Sure, but he still banged a minor if that's case.

Sure, in a pure legal sense. If a husband spanks his wife without consent during sex he has committed assault in a pure legal sense too.

Sometimes the world would be better off learning some context in the grey areas....especially when no one is saying they have had a crime committed against them.

You argument pre supposes that getting the "OK" makes this action not a crime. That's not really the case here, they just don't have enough to move forward.

[clyde21]

That's assuming an underage person can consent. They can't.

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

Sure, but he still banged a minor if that's the case.

Age of consent in Oklahoma is 16

yall let 8 year olds chop their genitals off but this is beyond the pale lol

backwards ass society

Strike: Transphobic Political Derailing

[heezyo2o]

What's wrong with making opinions on a headline. This is a forum and people share their opinions, I wouldn't expect anything less.

If Giddey was accused of stealing a car, people would call him a dumbass before anything was proven true. No one would have a problem with that. Because this is sexual in nature, people aren't expected to have opinions?

This isn't a court where people are innocent until proven guilty. This is the public and social media where often times it's the opposite. Just how it is.

And this is the problem. Just because something 'is' doesn't make it right, helpful or not extremely harmful to a person or people.

Just because people are entitled to their opinion, doesn't mean they should feel the need to share it, especially if they have 0 thought or evidence.

You are normalising behaviour that can be extremely harmful to people and that's pathetic to me.

This isn't a place where you have to be politically correct. People just say whatever they think. I wouldn't want censorship on this forum.

I get the point where a female can make an accusation and turn someone's world upside down, but this is just a forum. Not the same imo

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

Sure, but he still banged a minor if that's the case.

Age of consent in Oklahoma is 16

It apparently happened in California.

[AussieCeltic]

Why do you think he did it? You've been on for days now calling him a pedo, etc. I'm genuinely curious why you are strongly opiniated about this?

I haven’t posted that much besides that one interaction. So it was just one day.

When you countrymen (Aussie national team member) says you did it, when you don’t deny it and when there is picture with an allegedly underage person…I think it raises substantial questions.


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You don't follow Bogut much do you? He lies a lot for attention, this is a common thing with the guy since retiring.

Great player but a bit of a troublemaker

Bogut didn’t even say anything though. He said he didn’t know what happened but he did know Giddey notified OKC of the situation.

- 16/17 year old girl has fake ID and gets into club
- 18/19 year old Giddey hooks up with her
- Giddey finds out she underage
- Informs team
- 2-3 years pass and some weirdo posts a photo calling him a pedo
- Police/NBA do their own investigations
- No charges laid

Calling him a pedo for that is downright poor form. The fact he’s booed by crowds and no one says peep about Miles Bridges shows how **** up society is.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Not the point. Quite possibly the girl and the parents do not consider her to be a victim of a crime.

Sure, but he still banged a minor if that's the case.

Age of consent in Oklahoma is 16

yall let 8 year olds chop their genitals off but this is beyond the pale lol

backwards ass society

Yeah, it gets dodgey in some places.

[Rainwater]

NBA was smart and released this timely on the day everyone is distracted over a trade. Don’t think for one second this means he didn’t do anything. It means the nba paid off the girl to hush up and that’s exactly what she did. I knew that would happen the second Allred became her lawyer. Justice is fair except where money is involved, always remember that.

The police/tmz announced the investigation is closed not the nba, lol.

[NbaAllDay]

Can I just say from a mostly 'male' board (I get thats an assumption but it's probably a fairly solid one) It's pretty disappointing seeing some of the reactions here.

This kind of attitude and sentiment demolishes a lot of Men every year.

What we know is there is 0 real proof he did anything wrong, yet the amount of people who jumped onto the accusations as if they were 100% true and still consider him as guilty and make up reasons such as 'the NBA paid them off' is pathetic.

Could the allegations be true? Sure. Is anything proven? No

So before you get up in your feels and assume guilt before anything is proven, remember that you could be the next Male being accused of something without proof and have your life ruined very easily.

I've seen it done, and it will continue to happen with these horrid attitudes.

That is true but it is also true that it's dangerous to jump to the defense of an accused offender without at least some level of skeptisism because in most cases, let's be honest, it's almost impossible to prove. The Giddey stuff is not nearly on the same level, but I have two female friends who were sexually assaulted. Both of them did not even take it to the police because they knew there wouldn't be justice. And they are both severely damaged because of it, in therapy, one of them now on a high dose of an antidepressant, and they have to live with that trauma. I knew them before and after these assaults took place and they are not the same people they were. Auto believing accusers is not the way but they should be taken seriously at least.

There is a difference between jumping to his defense, and simply pointing out that claming guilt with 0 evidence, even circumstantial is dangerous and impactful.

It's horrible that friends of yours have gone through this and we often make assumptions based on past experiences, or experiences from those in our lives.

I have a close friend that ended their life after a number of false accusations (from 2 seperate females) of which they came out 2 years later riddled in guilt stating they just wanted to punish him for breaking up with their friend.

People sometimes forget how damaging it can be on the other end of these accusations.

[Marvin Martian]

I mean it wasn't like the girl was the one pressing charges. It was twitter. Some folks think money was involved but Giddey is not a star so the NBA doesn't have an incentive to clear his name

[mj234eva]

Age of consent in Oklahoma is 16

Wasn't being investigated by any police department in Oklahoma.

[afarmenian]

Can I just say from a mostly 'male' board (I get thats an assumption but it's probably a fairly solid one) It's pretty disappointing seeing some of the reactions here.

This kind of attitude and sentiment demolishes a lot of Men every year.

What we know is there is 0 real proof he did anything wrong, yet the amount of people who jumped onto the accusations as if they were 100% true and still consider him as guilty and make up reasons such as 'the NBA paid them off' is pathetic.

Could the allegations be true? Sure. Is anything proven? No

So before you get up in your feels and assume guilt before anything is proven, remember that you could be the next Male being accused of something without proof and have your life ruined very easily.

I've seen it done, and it will continue to happen with these horrid attitudes.

That is true but it is also true that it's dangerous to jump to the defense of an accused offender without at least some level of skeptisism because in most cases, let's be honest, it's almost impossible to prove. The Giddey stuff is not nearly on the same level, but I have two female friends who were sexually assaulted. Both of them did not even take it to the police because they knew there wouldn't be justice. And they are both severely damaged because of it, in therapy, one of them now on a high dose of an antidepressant, and they have to live with that trauma. I knew them before and after these assaults took place and they are not the same people they were. Auto believing accusers is not the way but they should be taken seriously at least.

There is a difference between jumping to his defense, and simply pointing out that claming guilt with 0 evidence, even circumstantial is dangerous and impactful.

It's horrible that friends of yours have gone through this and we often make assumptions based on past experiences, or experiences from those in our lives.

I have a close friend that ended their life after a number of false accusations (from 2 seperate females) of which they came out 2 years later riddled in guilt stating they just wanted to punish him for breaking up with their friend.

People sometimes forget how damaging it can be on the other end of these accusations.

plot twist you two are talking about the same two girls......







sorry

[NY2k1]

An underage person should be able to have consensual sex with whomever they want without anyone asking questions or commenting.

Lol, what? Only pedos think this with an underaged person having sex with anyone they wish, so your post has me concerned.