Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations

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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#141 » by GrandTheftRondo » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:10 am

WarriorGM wrote:
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NotaHypeJob wrote:Lot of weird people in this thread who want having sex with 16 years old to be okay

It’s actually legal in a lot of places.

If I was 20, I would have found it weird and creepy dating a 16 year old. But in the eyes of the law where I live it’s legal.


The CDC has said that an estimated 55% of people by the time they turn 18 have had sex. If that is remotely true, what is the really weird stance?

I’m saying I would have found it weird as a grown adult taking a high school girl out.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#142 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:11 am

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NotaHypeJob wrote:Lot of weird people in this thread who want having sex with 16 years old to be okay

...or people that think evidence is more important than a claim?

But hey, if you want to believe everyone is guilty of any accusation ever made with no proof, have at it.

Hit dog hollers

So to be clear:

You believe any accusation is 100% and need no evidence to back up any claims AND if anyone says "Well, we need evidence." you then accuse them of being okay of what the 1st person was accused of?

I don't even care if I get banned for this, because your insinuation is so ****ed, it will be worth it.

The level of absolute brain dead you must be, to think this way, is astonishing. Being intelligent is free and yet you so very proudly choose not to be.

To even believe every accusation is fact is moronic.

To believe anyone who thinks evidence should be required to convict someone, is probably guilty of it, is moronic.

You are a waste of existence on this planet.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#143 » by DCasey91 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:12 am

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sikma42 wrote:I haven’t posted that much besides that one interaction. So it was just one day.

When you countrymen (Aussie national team member) says you did it, when you don’t deny it and when there is picture with an allegedly underage person…I think it raises substantial questions.


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You don't follow Bogut much do you? He lies a lot for attention, this is a common thing with the guy since retiring.

Great player but a bit of a troublemaker


Bogut didn’t even say anything though. He said he didn’t know what happened but he did know Giddey notified OKC of the situation.

- 16/17 year old girl has fake ID and gets into club
- 18/19 year old Giddey hooks up with her
- Giddey finds out she underage
- Informs team
- 2-3 years pass and some weirdo posts a photo calling him a pedo
- Police/NBA do their own investigations
- No charges laid

Calling him a pedo for that is downright poor form. The fact he’s booed by crowds and no one says peep about Miles Bridges shows how **** up society is.


Stuff like this happens all the time (used to be a student councillor) in private consultation.

Society/tribalism can be orchestrated pretty easily through propaganda
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#144 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:12 am

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Wasn't being investigated by any police department in Oklahoma.

This is sort of where this whole thing is pretty wild.

Regardless of what may or may not have happened.

In one state it may well be legal. In another it’s legal.


this is what the conversation should be, its ridiculous cali doesnt have a romeo and juliet law. If it were 18 and 17 that would still be a crime and that is borderline insane. At some point there should be a cutoff sure but if we are literally still calling you something teen why are you wasting judicial resources on such petty stuff.


it's all arbitrary BS...and Josh himself is 20 fkn years old...people acting like he's some 50 yr old predator preying on kids.

dudes just wanna virtue signal online about nonsense cuz they got nothing going on in their lives
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#145 » by GrandTheftRondo » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:14 am

clyde21 wrote:
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GrandTheftRondo wrote:This is sort of where this whole thing is pretty wild.

Regardless of what may or may not have happened.

In one state it may well be legal. In another it’s legal.


this is what the conversation should be, its ridiculous cali doesnt have a romeo and juliet law. If it were 18 and 17 that would still be a crime and that is borderline insane. At some point there should be a cutoff sure but if we are literally still calling you something teen why are you wasting judicial resources on such petty stuff.


it's all arbitrary BS...and Josh himself is 20 fkn years old...people acting like he's some 50 yr old predator preying on kids.

dudes just wanna virtue signal online about nonsense cuz they got nothing going on in their lives

Exactly. Sounds like a dumb kid thing.

The vitriol at the start seemed to be based off a lot of stuff implying they had an ongoing relationship. That has been proven wrong.

There’s less outrage for actual pedos.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#146 » by AussieCeltic » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:17 am

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GrandTheftRondo wrote:It’s actually legal in a lot of places.

If I was 20, I would have found it weird and creepy dating a 16 year old. But in the eyes of the law where I live it’s legal.


The CDC has said that an estimated 55% of people by the time they turn 18 have had sex. If that is remotely true, what is the really weird stance?

The weird stance is trying to have sex with a 16 year old as an adult


You’re acting like Giddey was waiting outside a high school to pick up girls.

He went to a licensed establishment for people over 18. Key word being licensed which means by law they’re only allowed to let people over 18 in and it’s their responsibility to make sure that happens.

Did you want Giddey to ask for her birth certificate before hooking up with her?

Giddey was also only 19 himself when the alleged incident happened.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#147 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:44 am

AussieCeltic wrote:
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WarriorGM wrote:
The CDC has said that an estimated 55% of people by the time they turn 18 have had sex. If that is remotely true, what is the really weird stance?

The weird stance is trying to have sex with a 16 year old as an adult


You’re acting like Giddey was waiting outside a high school to pick up girls.

He went to a licensed establishment for people over 18. Key word being licensed which means by law they’re only allowed to let people over 18 in and it’s their responsibility to make sure that happens.

Did you want Giddey to ask for her birth certificate before hooking up with her?

Giddey was also only 19 himself when the alleged incident happened.


exactly

people need to stop acting dumb. its not hard to recognize/see predatory behavior. Karl Malone? That's predatory. Josh Giddy hooking up with a 16 yr old as a 19 yr old, after he met her in a 18+ establishment, is not predatory behavior.

if you cant differentiate between these two things then you need to get checked out.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#148 » by jlokine » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:47 am

the effort to cancel the guy is truly next level. ppl acting like he's automatically guilty because a minor is involved. 1. she bragged about it, 2. she was at a 18+ club... has anyone here asked a girl for their ID before having sex with them? and when they showed them said ID, they say, "that's fake, show me a real one"? she lost any credibility as a supposed victim when she posted a "just f'd giddey" picture.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#149 » by MemphisX » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:47 am

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MemphisX wrote:Misleading title. He was not cleared. Her family trafficked her.

Or, you know, she had a good time **** a pro athlete and doesn't want to ruin his life over it. :dontknow:



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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#150 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:52 am

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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#151 » by FrodoBaggins » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:53 am

The moralizing grandstanders still can't provide a simple answer to my question. How old is the girl? Reminder: there are two of them. Which girl was it?

You're all going on about what's morally reprehensible when you don't even know how old the girl is. Or how old Josh was when this allegedly occurred. If it actually ever did...

According to Andrew Bogut - who has Australian basketball connections - she was 17, Josh was 19, and it was in 2022. Met in a club; I presume 18+. But once again, this isn't proof but pure speculation.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#152 » by GrandTheftRondo » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:55 am

FrodoBaggins wrote:The moralizing grandstanders still can't provide a simple answer to my question. How old is the girl? Reminder: there are two of them. Which girl was it?

You're all going on about what's morally reprehensible when you don't even know how old the girl is. Or how old Josh was when this allegedly occurred. If it actually ever did...

According to Andrew Bogut - who has Australian basketball connections - she was 17, Josh was 19, and it was in 2022. Met in a club; I presume 18+.

Or if sex was even involved
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#153 » by SweaterBae » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:01 am

Jasen777 wrote:It means he's (presumably) legally cleared. It doesn't, necessarily, prove he's a man of outstanding character who has done no wrong and everyone needs to apologize to.


And yet it very well might mean exactly that.
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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#154 » by Xatticus » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:03 am

dockingsched wrote:I don’t think “cleared” is the appropriate term when the underage girl and her family refused to cooperate. “Charges dropped” seems more appropriate.


He wasn't charged with anything. There was an investigation. He was cleared. This isn't really ambiguous. I don't know why people have difficulty understanding it.
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Giddey won't be charged by police 

Post#155 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:04 am

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39326872/james-harden-happy-la-wants-keep-clippers-core-together

"After a thorough and exhaustive examination, we have completed our investigation into information that was circulating on social media involving Josh Giddey," the statement read. "Our detectives have reviewed all of the available information and were unable to corroborate any criminal activity related to Mr. Giddey."
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Re: Giddey won't be charged by police 

Post#156 » by Dr Aki » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:10 am

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Re: Josh Giddey Cleared of Innapropriate Relationship Allegations 

Post#157 » by infinite11285 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:12 am

Well, this thread **** sucks. I haven't seen a true basketball-related post yet (as expected).

Go argue your opposing moral and ethical stances on the Current Affairs Board (or elsewhere).
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Post#158 » by beeshma » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:32 am

I wonder if race is a factor in this situation? What I mean by "this situation" is the situation on the RealGM board and at NBA arenas with fans hating on Giddey.

I am sincerely curious: Is it mostly black NBA fans who express anger at Josh Giddey?

Read chapters 2-4 of Ralph Ellison's "Invisible Man" if you don't know what I'm talking about.
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Re: Giddey won't be charged by police 

Post#159 » by thelead » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:39 am

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Post#160 » by fast+forward » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:43 am

beeshma wrote:I wonder if race is a factor in this situation? What I mean by "this situation" is the situation on the RealGM board and at NBA arenas with fans hating on Giddey.

I am sincerely curious: Is it mostly black NBA fans who express anger at Josh Giddey?

Read chapters 2 and 3 of Ralph Ellison's "Invisible Man" if you don't know what I'm talking about.


No, family didn't cooperate with the investigation. Maybe didn't want the spotlight of the media circus had there been a drawn out deal and more potential trauma for the victim.

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