Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas -Trade Deadline Thursday 2 pm CT

[ShootingtheJ]

I would guess Murray ends up on the Heat.

Come on man, you know that when Murray finally gets dealt, we'll be hearing about how the Heat decided to wait for someone better.

[JayMKE]

I'll believe Murray is heading to Milwaukee when its announced,have been wrong before

really don't want AJ Griffin tho, think about the kind of coach Adrian Griffin is and ask yourself do you want him coaching his son?

[raferfenix]

Yikes maybe Hawks ownership is just this screwed up.

San Antonio could have a historically good trade on their hands if Atlanta sucks 2025-2027.

Atlanta is looking for at least two first-round picks, according to The Ringer. The Hawks are not looking to take back salary past this season, league sources told HoopsHype.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-trade-deadline-intel-lakers-knicks-nets-mavs-hawks-pacers-blazers-pistons-wizards-pelicans/

[randy84]

Since it’s Haynes I don’t think it’s a total fabrication. In which case either:

1. Horst is being aggressive offering Bobby+ and maybe he’ll shock the world with another creative deal.

2. Middleton is on the table.

Very interesting whichever it is.

Think Brook being on the table should be on the list here too. Contract size is there and he's the 'square peg' in this system.

If something comes of this and you come out with Murry and Hunter I'd take it. I just see no way that's possible with MKEs assets or if ATL drastically overvalues Brook or Khris given their ages and/or injury histories

Yeah maybe they feel brolo can work with Quinn's d and help offset young on that side of the court....but more importantly it's a 2 year contract. Or a big expiring next year. I think the hawks get better offers sadly.

In other words, Quinn would know how to use Brook whereas our coach is still trying to figure it out.

[raferfenix]

Rich Paul and the Bucks have a good relationship too.

Maybe that’s where it got to Haynes.

[Shaffty]

the only things that make sense to me are

The Hawks think Bobby is like 22/10 a game as a starter and view him on equal footing as dejounte (LOL)

The Bucks offered Brook to pari with Trae and they really like that prospect (we are ****)

[BroncoBuck]

I would guess Murray ends up on the Heat.

Come on man, you know that when Murray finally gets dealt, we'll be hearing about how the Heat decided to wait for someone better.

I think this is one scenario where Miami would be better served to wait for someone better.

[WiscoKing13]

If the Hawks are looking to trim payroll can we trade for Quinn Snyder?

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[emunney]

Feels like a pipe dream to me.

[emunney]

Job Horse has put Ramos out of a hat before tho

[BroncoBuck]

I guess I’m in the minority of being low on Murray. Never saw him as much more than a Sexton level player.


If it’s Bobby and whoever sure, but I wouldn’t give up a first or anything valuable.

Brook
Bobby
Marjon
Rolo

Capela
Murray

[-Jragon-]

You made a point and people listed off that like half the teams of the last 20 years have had guys like that. Then add in the guys that shoot midranges but were good at D (which I don't know why they're excluded in a discussion about offense) and its likely every team got a major top 3-4 guy on their team with midrange as their prime scoring route. So, no.

Because it's the least efficient shot that draws the least amount fouls and generally the make % is very similar to 3pt %.. so if a guy were to choose the least effective weapon to fight with then at least be a dog on defense to add to your value. In my memory there were some weak defenders that won it all but mostly they were lights out at shooting 3s like Korver which is the most efficient shot with the least amount of turnovers if your handles aren't very good. This is why 3 and D guys became the moneyball hack to put around your superstars because it's the highest efficiency roles put together.

Do you remember what Detroit was doing when they won that Chip? Didn't they beat Kobe with zero superstars? Billups, Sheed and them... it was all aggressive D and inside out ball.. a bunch of role players that the best ball handler draw and kick and the others knock down 3s or pump fake. We have 2 superstars.. imagine what some 3 and D role players like that could accomplish here

Dude we all know 3s is more efficient than 2 in general if all things are equal. But its good to have all bases covered. You also have to remember that Ds these days also know 3s are better and try to take them away and you get forced into 2s. Especially in the playoffs when Ds clamp down, its good to have folks who can hit tough contested shots. You can keep digging your hole deeper but we all just listed off that the vast majority of title teams and near title teams have had guys like this.

Oh good example btw who I forgot on that Pistons: Rip Hamilton midrange dynamo. You made a point against yourself.

RIP was faster, better handle, better D...

Look, if KM wasn't a capable 3pt shooter than fine but he is and he just won't accept the role. He has a nice high 3 pt release and can shoot it with a hand there which is what we need around Dame and Giannis.

[ShootingtheJ]

Hawks want 2- 1sts, but the Lakers are only offering 1. Hawks control their pick this year, so they could tank, and looks like they want to with their request for no longterm salary. Rockets want a backup big and a shooter. Wolves want shooter, their GM drafted Beasley, then traded for Beasley with another team, and then gave him a huge contract. The deal:

Bucks
In: Murray, Griffin
Out: Bobby, Pat, Beasley, Marjon, Portland 2nd, swap rights on our swap rights in 2026, 2028

Houston
In: Bobby, Pat
Out: Landale, Oladipo, 2025 1st(lowest of swapped pick), 2024 GSW 2nd, 2025 2nd

Wolves
In: Beasley
Out: 3- 2nds

Hawks in: Beauchamp, Landale, Oladipo, 2025 1st via Houston, 6- 2nd round picks, swap rights after our previously swapped picks in 2026, 2028

[raferfenix]

Lol at the Lakers offer for Murray — if Atlanta was even listening to this maybe he’s more attainable than we’d otherwise think:

The Murray buzz is only increasing — and to noisy levels. The Lakers and Hawks have discussed potential frameworks of a deal, including a version late last week that centered on Russell, Hood-Schifino, the 2029 first-round pick and additional draft compensation, according to multiple team and league sources. Talks have since stalled, but are expected to pick back up closer to the deadline.

https://theathletic.com/5202959/2024/01/19/lakers-trade-rumors-2024-dejounte-murray/?amp=1

[ShootingtheJ]

Lol at the Lakers offer for Murray — if Atlanta was even listening to this maybe he’s more attainable than we’d otherwise think:

The Murray buzz is only increasing — and to noisy levels. The Lakers and Hawks have discussed potential frameworks of a deal, including a version late last week that centered on Russell, Hood-Schifino, the 2029 first-round pick and additional draft compensation, according to multiple team and league sources. Talks have since stalled, but are expected to pick back up closer to the deadline.

https://theathletic.com/5202959/2024/01/19/lakers-trade-rumors-2024-dejounte-murray/?amp=1

Yup, we can beat that, in a multi team scenario

[randy84]

the only things that make sense to me are

The Hawks think Bobby is like 22/10 a game as a starter and view him on equal footing as dejounte (LOL)

The Bucks offered Brook to pari with Trae and they really like that prospect (we are ****)

I think Atlanta just wants to get out of Murray's contract. They will trade him for the best package that keeps their finances in shape. Horst probably made a call to see what it would take.

[Ron Swanson]

Yikes maybe Hawks ownership is just this screwed up.

San Antonio could have a historically good trade on their hands if Atlanta sucks 2025-2027.

Atlanta is looking for at least two first-round picks, according to The Ringer. The Hawks are not looking to take back salary past this season, league sources told HoopsHype.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-trade-deadline-intel-lakers-knicks-nets-mavs-hawks-pacers-blazers-pistons-wizards-pelicans/

There it is. Don't think it happens either way, but this is why I wouldn't completely rule us out. Get a third team involved that can send them expirings and you have at least the framework for a deal.

[PG Graveyard]

Lol at the Lakers offer for Murray — if Atlanta was even listening to this maybe he’s more attainable than we’d otherwise think:

The Murray buzz is only increasing — and to noisy levels. The Lakers and Hawks have discussed potential frameworks of a deal, including a version late last week that centered on Russell, Hood-Schifino, the 2029 first-round pick and additional draft compensation, according to multiple team and league sources. Talks have since stalled, but are expected to pick back up closer to the deadline.

https://theathletic.com/5202959/2024/01/19/lakers-trade-rumors-2024-dejounte-murray/?amp=1

Yup, we can beat that, in a multi team scenario

We can beat that in a lot of scenarios

[sidney lanier]

Let's ignore facts and statistical trends for gambling odds. Sounds good

If that’s what you think the market-makers do, never gamble.

[Matches Malone]

Let's ignore facts and statistical trends for gambling odds. Sounds good

If that’s what you think the market-makers do, never gamble.

I couldn't care less what Vegas is telling you (their odds have dropped should tell you something). The defensive metrics that continue to plummet paint another story