Celts Can't Dip The Nuggets! Loss vs DEN 1/19

zoyathedestroya · Post #81 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:32 am

"Make or miss league." -- Doc Rivers

TheMartian · Post #82 » by **TheMartian** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:34 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Murray and Jokic 29 for 43 for 67%
Other Nuggets 13 for 38 for 38%

Mazzulla rarely makes in game adjustments something Brad was amazing at. Murray hit some really tough shots but at the same time if he hits like two shots in a row, you gotta change it up and give him a different look.

Yup. In game adjustments are necessary especially if it's the same person or persons that are constantly torching you.

Bar Fight · Post #83 » by **Bar Fight** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:35 am

bisme37 wrote:It sucks when I prepare a big exciting OP for a Celtics win and find highlights and etc and then I have to scrap it and write some dumb ish about a crappy loss everyone hates lol.

Pro tip: If the game is close against an elite team, just prepare the losers thread

Post #84 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:35 am

Green89 wrote:
WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Tatum and Brown flat out sucked tonight. I wanted anyone but JT to take that final shot tonight.

Combined 2/17 from deep

That Killed us.

Objectivity · Post #85 » by **Objectivity** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:37 am

SuperDeluxe wrote:
Objectivity wrote:AGAIN. Well coached playoff teams WANT JB to shoot these 19 shots.

I don’t understand why our least efficient player is entitled to more shots than White and KP on such a frequent basis.

Keep in mind that White and KP benefit from all the space that the Jays create by just being on the floor. They might not be as efficient without them.

I agree JT’s gravity is off the charts. Pretty underrated on this board. He brings so much to the team even when he misses shots.

JB is another story. Replace him with any role player that can quick hit and make the unselfish play and we will be fine. JB benefits from the gravity of KP and JT but he’s not smart or skilled enough to help us win a championship. His shot profile KILLS us.

A floater is the same amount of points as a highlight dunk. A ball fake to open player for boring lay up is still 2 points. JB just does not have THAT nuance and IQ

If JB came off our bench and shot 10 shots a game I swear I would never talk sh*t again. It kills us that he think he’s the #2 EVERY game

PierceFan4ever · Post #86 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:38 am

Bar Fight wrote:
bisme37 wrote:It sucks when I prepare a big exciting OP for a Celtics win and find highlights and etc and then I have to scrap it and write some dumb ish about a crappy loss everyone hates lol.

Pro tip: If the game is close against an elite team, just prepare the losers thread

Yup. Kind of feels like it. Nearly all our losses are in close games. Games we should have won most of them like tonight. Celtics have a whole second half of this season to figure out late game execution especially against good teams.

Green89 · Post #87 » by **Green89** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:38 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

Bottomline, Nuggets were able to slow down our stars. We couldn't slow down theirs.

Their stars took 11 threes and the Jay's took 17. Smarter game with higher percentage shots for them.

TheMartian · Post #88 » by **TheMartian** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:39 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Can we talk about Jrue Holiday in big matchups?

2-8 7 points against okc gets cooked by shai on the other end

12 points 5-15 against Timberwolves

6 points 2-9 against bucks

7 points 3-7 against nuggets

He needs to step the **** up. If that was Marcus smart, people would be trashing him. I expect more

My observation as well. But some folks here believe he's terrific. I'm underwhelmed so far.

CelticsPride18 · Post #89 » by **CelticsPride18** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:39 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

"Make or miss league." -- Doc Rivers

Tatum misses we’re embarrassing

fallguy · Post #90 » by **fallguy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:39 am

Bar Fight wrote:
bisme37 wrote:It sucks when I prepare a big exciting OP for a Celtics win and find highlights and etc and then I have to scrap it and write some dumb ish about a crappy loss everyone hates lol.

Pro tip: If the game is close against an elite team, just prepare the losers thread

I like to think that any thread I'm in is the losers thread.

Sweet Serenity · Post #91 » by **Sweet Serenity** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:40 am

Games like this & the Minnesota game are exactly what we need in the regular season.

It’s not going to always go our way like tonight but we can learn a lot from it.

It’s game 42 guys, chin up !

fallguy · Post #92 » by **fallguy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:40 am

Objectivity wrote:
SuperDeluxe wrote:
Objectivity wrote:AGAIN. Well coached playoff teams WANT JB to shoot these 19 shots.

I don’t understand why our least efficient player is entitled to more shots than White and KP on such a frequent basis.

Keep in mind that White and KP benefit from all the space that the Jays create by just being on the floor. They might not be as efficient without them.

I agree JT’s gravity is off the charts. Pretty underrated on this board. He brings so much to the team even when he misses shots.

JB is another story. Replace him with any role player that can quick hit and make the unselfish play and we will be fine. JB benefits from the gravity of KP and JT but he’s not smart or skilled enough to help us win a championship. His shot profile KILLS us.

A floater is the same amount of points as a highlight dunk. A ball fake to open player for boring lay up is still 2 points. JB just does not have THAT nuance and IQ

If JB came off our bench and shot 10 shots a game I swear I would never talk sh*t again. It kills us that he think he’s the #2 EVERY game

Until July anyway.

Riverwalk2021 · Post #93 » by **Riverwalk2021** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:41 am

Denver deserves a lot of credit. They are the champs for a reason. We have a pretty big talent advantage but they gave up semi-open 3s and kept it close enough for their two stars to take them home.

The Jays were 15-43 for 35 points. Jokic and Murray were 29-43 for 69 points. +34 on the same amount of shots is insane.

djsunyc · Post #94 » by **djsunyc** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:41 am

just curious, would you feel the celtics be any better if you made a 2 for 1 trade and replaced jaylen brown with dejuante murray and bogdan?

PierceFan4ever · Post #95 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:41 am

TheMartian wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Can we talk about Jrue Holiday in big matchups?

2-8 7 points against okc gets cooked by shai on the other end

12 points 5-15 against Timberwolves

6 points 2-9 against bucks

7 points 3-7 against nuggets

He needs to step the **** up. If that was Marcus smart, people would be trashing him. I expect more

My observation as well. But some folks here believe he's terrific. I'm underwhelmed so far.

Yup. He also has no bag on offense so you’re always like no no no when he tries doing things one on one. He’s been good at wide open corner threes I guess.

Porzingis has been a difference maker but holiday has been an okay upgrade. White leveling up this season has also made holiday’s stinky performances go less noticed but as the starting point guard, we need him in these big games.

fallguy · Post #96 » by **fallguy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:41 am

Riverwalk2021 wrote:Denver deserves a lot of credit. They are the champs for a reason. We have a pretty big talent advantage but they gave up semi-open 3s and kept it close enough for their two stars to take them home.

The Jays were 15-43 for 35 points. Jokic and Murray were 29-43 for 69 points. +34 on the same amount of shots is insane.

I would bet my life that Joe liked the shots we got.

jumblin · Post #97 » by **jumblin** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:45 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Can we talk about Jrue Holiday in big matchups?

2-8 7 points against okc gets cooked by shai on the other end

12 points 5-15 against Timberwolves

6 points 2-9 against bucks

7 points 3-7 against nuggets

He needs to step the **** up. If that was Marcus smart, people would be trashing him. I expect more

The clutch players on this team:

Kristapz
Horford
D White

The unclutch players:

Brown
Tatum
Jrue

I saw the deer in the headlights look often from Jrue when he was in Milwaukee. Brogdon and Smart were both far more clutch than he is. Brown and Tatum are what they are. Its the same thing that people have saying for ever, which is that Tatum led teams just do not have the clutch gene.

fallguy · Post #98 » by **fallguy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:45 am

fallguy wrote:
Riverwalk2021 wrote:Denver deserves a lot of credit. They are the champs for a reason. We have a pretty big talent advantage but they gave up semi-open 3s and kept it close enough for their two stars to take them home.

The Jays were 15-43 for 35 points. Jokic and Murray were 29-43 for 69 points. +34 on the same amount of shots is insane.

I would bet my life that Joe liked the shots we got.

I am correct. Joe liked the shots.

Read on Twitter

fallguy · Post #99 » by **fallguy** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:46 am

jumblin wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Can we talk about Jrue Holiday in big matchups?

2-8 7 points against okc gets cooked by shai on the other end

12 points 5-15 against Timberwolves

6 points 2-9 against bucks

7 points 3-7 against nuggets

He needs to step the **** up. If that was Marcus smart, people would be trashing him. I expect more

The clutch players on this team:

Kristapz
Horford
D White

The unclutch players:

Brown
Tatum
Jrue

I saw the deer in the headlights look often from Jrue when he was in Milwaukee. Brogdon and Smart were both far more clutch than he is. Brown and Tatum are what they are. Its the same thing that people have saying for ever, which is that Tatum led teams just do not have the clutch gene.

Any data to back up your Tatum claims?

CelticsPride18 · Post #100 » by **CelticsPride18** » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:46 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:
TheMartian wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Can we talk about Jrue Holiday in big matchups?

2-8 7 points against okc gets cooked by shai on the other end

12 points 5-15 against Timberwolves

6 points 2-9 against bucks

7 points 3-7 against nuggets

He needs to step the **** up. If that was Marcus smart, people would be trashing him. I expect more

My observation as well. But some folks here believe he's terrific. I'm underwhelmed so far.

Yup. He also has no bag on offense so you’re always like no no no when he tries doing things one on one. He’s been good at wide open corner threes I guess.

Porzingis has been a difference maker but holiday has been an okay upgrade. White leveling up this season has also made holiday’s stinky performances go less noticed but as the starting point guard, we need him in these big games.

He’s the 5th option and the anchor of the defense. When everyone is healthy he barely gets 8 shots. In all those games the Jays were awful as well except the OKC game