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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#181 » by Don_Draper » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:12 pm

Why on earth would you trade him? We have enough draft picks. He is a proven winner. KEEP THAT BOY! START WINNING BALL GAMES!


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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#182 » by Zeno » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:16 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Keep him? You maximize his value and trade him now. Get a real asset manager in there. What is the alternative? Exercise his team option and hope for a better deal next season?

Expedite the rebuild process.

There really to me is no reason not to trade him. His value to other teams is way higher than it is to us. I suspect there may be a delay because of needing another trade to create roster slots but I'm pretty certain he's traded soon.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#183 » by TimeForChange » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:19 pm

You definitely start him and showcase him and his cutting ability with Scottie playing the Jokic role.

Then you sell him at the deadline to the highest bidder.

There is absolutely no reason to keep him past the deadline if a future 1st is being offered.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#184 » by mihaic » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:29 pm

Appostis wrote:
mihaic wrote:
Appostis wrote:I believe more can come back but yeah just Brown unless they did a 3(well 4 way) trade.

That trade works broken down in 2 separate trades

Show your workings then instead of posting a illegal trade :nod:


I don't know if you ask me or the poster before. I am simply pointing his proposed trade can be split in 2 legal trades.

Brown for Harris works.
And Ausar + Wiseman for GTJ works.

I don't see why Detroit trades their high pick rookie though. He was 4th or 5th right? Too soon to trade, their season is already done.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#185 » by Anatomize » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:54 pm

I hope we keep him. He seems like an underrated Masai type who would really help us win games in the long run. Plays bigger than his size. He's going to fit in great with Barnes.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#186 » by greekman » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:17 pm

Zeno wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Keep him? You maximize his value and trade him now. Get a real asset manager in there. What is the alternative? Exercise his team option and hope for a better deal next season?

Expedite the rebuild process.

There really to me is no reason not to trade him. His value to other teams is way higher than it is to us. I suspect there may be a delay because of needing another trade to create roster slots but I'm pretty certain he's traded soon.


"his value to other teams is way higher"
if all that's offered is late first round pick then his value to the raptors is way higher
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#187 » by torsport » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:18 pm

Psubs wrote:
torsport wrote:My initial thought was he would be moved before the deadline.

But watching the Chicago game, he kind of reminded me of Kyle with his play/attitude on the court. A leadership ingredient the team has missed since he left.

There might be something there to hold on to. I'd like to see a couple of weeks of play to see how it works.

Also didn't know the coach wrote an article about his cutting, so maybe Darko wanted him on the team too.

But a 27 year old glue guy, with championship experience, who is a 'dog' on the court I'm okay to hold on to.


Dejounte Murray is also 27 and Lauri Markkanen will be 27 in May, so is spending four 1st picks what they would want to do right now?


I don't know about Dejonte (I haven't seen him being part of a winning situation), but I think if Lauri is available for Brown and 3 1st round picks (Indys - I don't think we can trade any of ours future firsts until it is conveyed to SA) and Detroit's 2nd. I think you do it. Not sure it's available, but I'd do that in a heartbeat.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#188 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:19 pm

greekman wrote:
Zeno wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Keep him? You maximize his value and trade him now. Get a real asset manager in there. What is the alternative? Exercise his team option and hope for a better deal next season?

Expedite the rebuild process.

There really to me is no reason not to trade him. His value to other teams is way higher than it is to us. I suspect there may be a delay because of needing another trade to create roster slots but I'm pretty certain he's traded soon.


"his value to other teams is way higher"
if all that's offered is late first round pick then his value to the raptors is way higher

We already have two late first and an early second. What would another late first rounder matter?
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#189 » by Zeno » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:20 pm

greekman wrote:
Zeno wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Keep him? You maximize his value and trade him now. Get a real asset manager in there. What is the alternative? Exercise his team option and hope for a better deal next season?

Expedite the rebuild process.

There really to me is no reason not to trade him. His value to other teams is way higher than it is to us. I suspect there may be a delay because of needing another trade to create roster slots but I'm pretty certain he's traded soon.


"his value to other teams is way higher"
if all that's offered is late first round pick then his value to the raptors is way higher

We’ll see what’s offered. I think it will be a player/pick combo
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#190 » by Zeno » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:21 pm

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
greekman wrote:
Zeno wrote:There really to me is no reason not to trade him. His value to other teams is way higher than it is to us. I suspect there may be a delay because of needing another trade to create roster slots but I'm pretty certain he's traded soon.


"his value to other teams is way higher"
if all that's offered is late first round pick then his value to the raptors is way higher

We already have two late first and an early second. What would another late first rounder matter?

I don’t think it would be a straight pick trade. Probably player and pick.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#191 » by Ackshun » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:21 pm

greekman wrote:
Zeno wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Keep him? You maximize his value and trade him now. Get a real asset manager in there. What is the alternative? Exercise his team option and hope for a better deal next season?

Expedite the rebuild process.

There really to me is no reason not to trade him. His value to other teams is way higher than it is to us. I suspect there may be a delay because of needing another trade to create roster slots but I'm pretty certain he's traded soon.


"his value to other teams is way higher"
if all that's offered is late first round pick then his value to the raptors is way higher


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I wish his outside shot was a little more consistent but otherwise, I’d consider him part of the core moving without a doubt.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#192 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:21 pm

torsport wrote:
Psubs wrote:
torsport wrote:My initial thought was he would be moved before the deadline.

But watching the Chicago game, he kind of reminded me of Kyle with his play/attitude on the court. A leadership ingredient the team has missed since he left.

There might be something there to hold on to. I'd like to see a couple of weeks of play to see how it works.

Also didn't know the coach wrote an article about his cutting, so maybe Darko wanted him on the team too.

But a 27 year old glue guy, with championship experience, who is a 'dog' on the court I'm okay to hold on to.


Dejounte Murray is also 27 and Lauri Markkanen will be 27 in May, so is spending four 1st picks what they would want to do right now?


I don't know about Dejonte (I haven't seen him being part of a winning situation), but I think if Lauri is available for Brown and 3 1st round picks (Indys - I don't think we can trade any of ours future firsts until it is conveyed to SA) and Detroit's 2nd. I think you do it. Not sure it's available, but I'd do that in a heartbeat.

I don’t think lauri is available right now but I would kick the tires on Murray and bridges.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#193 » by mademan » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:31 pm

DLO/Christie/2026 unprotected swap for BB

2 years from now, the Lakers will still be capped out but without Lebron and an older AD. That pick is gold and i like Christie as a 3+D guard beside Barnes/IQ long term
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#194 » by gerrit4 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm

A future first (not 2024) with low protections (top 4 or 6) would be hard to turn down.

of course, one game in and I already really enjoy watching him play. So I’m torn.

If we can get a legit young player or future first though, I think that would really start to help us build for the future.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#195 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:41 pm

Ackshun wrote:
greekman wrote:
Zeno wrote:There really to me is no reason not to trade him. His value to other teams is way higher than it is to us. I suspect there may be a delay because of needing another trade to create roster slots but I'm pretty certain he's traded soon.


"his value to other teams is way higher"
if all that's offered is late first round pick then his value to the raptors is way higher


100%. One of those guys that doesn’t require plays drawn up, but is effective because he’s always on the go. Always creating something for the other 4 guys that might not show up on the stat sheet. Good court vision. Quick as ****. Unselfish. Always bouncing. I love it.

I wish his outside shot was a little more consistent but otherwise, I’d consider him part of the core moving without a doubt.


Disagreed.

1. That pick gets added to what we have which can then be used to package for a much more valuable player at a later date when we want to actually win which goes into the next point (not to mention we've already heard Grimes as someone the Knicks would use in the trade and he can be every bit as good as Brown, if not better with better shooting AND MUCH longer contractual control)

2. Everyone wants a good pick next year so what the heck is the point of hanging onto Brown?! lol We're not trying to win right now annnnd his value is HIGHEST right now! Let's not make the same mistake at a smaller scale that we just did with Pascal. Get the MOST you can out of him in trade.

This team doesn't need to be competitive at all the next couple of seasons, the goal should be to get as much young talent as possible before Scottie's next big contract starts, tank to get the best possible picks you can, add as much draft capital as possible to either let our highly touted scouts connect on at least one or two OR use them in a future trade for a more substantial player THEN build around those guys! You'd have ample money to go get the "Bruce Brown's, Dillion Brooks & Fred's" of the league then. I'd rather bottom out, get better picks/talent/another great core piece with MUCH higher upside then win a few extra games because of Brown's fit for a couple of years and have worse pick(s) to end up with the same result of being in the lottery only with a worse selection just for the sake of "vibes" lol.

It's like some of you don't understand the concept of short term pain for long term gain. Keeping Brown for a 1 1/2 year window (people act like he's on a 3-4 year contract lol) where we're guaranteed not to be a good team makes no sense at all, it's actually counterproductive.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#196 » by C_Money » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:14 pm

Anatomize wrote:I hope we keep him. He seems like an underrated Masai type who would really help us win games in the long run. Plays bigger than his size. He's going to fit in great with Barnes.


He definitely seems like a Masai player and listening to his press conference I didn’t get the sense that he planned on trading him.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#197 » by MavCarter » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:36 pm

Wonder if the sixers would give up that 2028 clippers pick for him
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#198 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:42 pm

Watch KG's reaction to the Pacers losing Bruce.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#199 » by sidsid » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:51 pm

I don't say this lightly, but he has a poor man's OG like impact (an impact that only grows in the playoffs). Makes almost any lineup better and does it with out disrupting any of your concepts (like the anti RJ)

That being said, he's a role player like Norm or Fred, and you can't get attached to them in this cycle we're currently in (the start of a belated rebuild). If he has young player plus pick trade value, you take it.
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Re: What to do with Bruce Brown 

Post#200 » by tecumseh18 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:05 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Watch KG's reaction to the Pacers losing Bruce.


Hah, gotta love KG. And Pierce is actually talking sense.

I would be higher on Indiana, but I realized that night that while Turner can hit those 3s, and block some shots, he can't defend the ball. He's not a championship C, and I can understand why the Celtics and (probably) the Raptors declined the opportunity to trade for him.

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