NFC East

[Mamba42]

By the way.. this tweet will knock your panties off.. Many fans (mostly Dallas fans) were complaining earlier in the year that the eagles received so much help from the refs. Well.. this says that’s not true.. In fact, Dallas received the most game altering calls in the NFL and the eagles received the least game altering calls in the NFL in 2023.

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His original tweet didn't have Dallas first or Philly last. I am confused on methodology though. He doesn't seem to describe what it is in this thread. Do you know what the methodology is? What is a "game altering call"? Does it measure missed calls? Does it measure incorrect calls? That's really where it matters a lot, IMO. Nobody really cares if the refs are making good calls down the stretch, that isn't a problem and it seems that what is being measured here as far as I can tell.

I believe it looks at the win probability on like, ESPN or something, and then takes the plays where it shifted by at least 5%

Meaning, if a team had an 80% chance to win, and then the next play there was a penalty which caused the win probability to go to 85%, that's a game-altering call

I can tell you why there's so many for the Jags, it's cause we were DPI hunting for a lot of the year. Too many throws were just "f*ck it, Calvin's down there somewhere, hopefully the ref calls DPI", which is why Ridley had the most DPI called against him in the league but a sub-56% catch%.

Ah, ok, thanks for the explanation! That makes sense. So this really isn't a measure of favoritism or something like that, then. It doesn't tell us whether the refs made good calls or bad calls (or missed calls) during games, which I think is the point JayDubb was trying to make.

On your Jaguars point, that is pretty interesting too. I think that's actually a smart play if you have like 3rd and long (just chuck it up and see if you can get a pass interference). If they were doing it frequently, though, that would be annoying. Time for a better game plan.

[DOT]

Time for a better game plan.

I see you're not acquainted with Press Taylor.

[Jaydubb]

By the way.. this tweet will knock your panties off.. Many fans (mostly Dallas fans) were complaining earlier in the year that the eagles received so much help from the refs. Well.. this says that’s not true.. In fact, Dallas received the most game altering calls in the NFL and the eagles received the least game altering calls in the NFL in 2023.

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His original tweet didn't have Dallas first or Philly last. I am confused on methodology though. He doesn't seem to describe what it is in this thread. Do you know what the methodology is? What is a "game altering call"? Does it measure missed calls? Does it measure incorrect calls? That's really where it matters a lot, IMO. Nobody really cares if the refs are making good calls down the stretch, that isn't a problem and it seems that what is being measured here as far as I can tell.

It clearly states calls that have a 5% win probability in the tweet. The original tweet you looked at where Dallas was #6 most beneficial and Philadelphia was #23 most beneficial was calls that made a 2.5% change of win probability (so not as impactful as the 5% tweet).

Win probability is exactly what it sounds like. How likely a team is to win the game. Each team starts out around 50% and then as plays happen throughout the game teams either gain or lose probability of winning the game. The “5% win probability “ would be like a team at 60% and 40% and then a play changes the odds of winning to 62.5% and 37.5%.

Basically, a team that receives more of these calls have a better chance to win and Dallas lead the league and Philadelphia was last in the league of receiving these 5% win probability calls.

[Jaydubb]

His original tweet didn't have Dallas first or Philly last. I am confused on methodology though. He doesn't seem to describe what it is in this thread. Do you know what the methodology is? What is a "game altering call"? Does it measure missed calls? Does it measure incorrect calls? That's really where it matters a lot, IMO. Nobody really cares if the refs are making good calls down the stretch, that isn't a problem and it seems that what is being measured here as far as I can tell.

I believe it looks at the win probability on like, ESPN or something, and then takes the plays where it shifted by at least 5%

Meaning, if a team had an 80% chance to win, and then the next play there was a penalty which caused the win probability to go to 85%, that's a game-altering call

I can tell you why there's so many for the Jags, it's cause we were DPI hunting for a lot of the year. Too many throws were just "f*ck it, Calvin's down there somewhere, hopefully the ref calls DPI", which is why Ridley had the most DPI called against him in the league but a sub-56% catch%.

Ah, ok, thanks for the explanation! That makes sense. So this really isn't a measure of favoritism or something like that, then. It doesn't tell us whether the refs made good calls or bad calls (or missed calls) during games, which I think is the point JayDubb was trying to make.

Huh? When did I say it was favoritism? I said it was what it was, Dallas received the most game altering calls and Philadelphia was last in the same criteria. A penalty causing 5% change in win probability. You have said many times how the refs have given the eagles a lot of calls, well this tweet says the most beneficial calls were made in Dallas favor.

So for example, the eagles might have had teams get called for a hold in the 1st quarter, but Dallas got more calls at key moments in the game such as for example 4th quarter 4th and 3 Dallas throws an incompletion that would’ve ended the drive but a flag is thrown that allows Dallas to continue the drive. This is a more impactful penalty if that makes sense.

So to be clear, I’m not in any way saying they were “bad calls” or “favoritism” or whatever you are calling it, I’m literally saying Dallas received more beneficial calls whether warranted or not. Dallas had the most beneficial calls and Philadelphia had the least amount.

[Mr B]

Uh oh! CeeDee can’t be happy about this.

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[Jaydubb]

Uh oh! CeeDee can’t be happy about this.

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Yeah ceedee can’t be happy with dak

[LAKESHOW]

LOL

[bluejerseyjinx]

Uh oh! CeeDee can’t be happy about this.

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Here we go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Micah Prescott]

CeeDee just had the best season in Dallas WR history and will probably become the highest paid WR in the NFL.

That said, good to see his mother values wins, although could cause for locker room drama.

[Mr B]

The Cowboys haven’t had a good off season scandal in a while.

[Jaydubb]

Micah parsons brother also seemed to suggest that Micah is gonna leave the cowboys eventually.

[El Turco]

Uh oh! CeeDee can’t be happy about this.

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Here we go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ba Da Ba Ba Bah, I'm Lovin' It!

[Mr B]

Micah parsons brother also seemed to suggest that Micah is gonna leave the cowboys eventually.

2 FRP’s and peace out MF!

[Jaydubb]

Micah parsons brother also seemed to suggest that Micah is gonna leave the cowboys eventually.

2 FRP’s and peace out MF!

If you guys trade him I think you get more than that

[El Turco]

Micah parsons brother also seemed to suggest that Micah is gonna leave the cowboys eventually.

2 FRP’s and peace out MF!

If you guys trade him I think you get more than that

I dont think anyone would give much more than that considering they have to pay him such a large contract. Maybe a team that still has its quarterback on rookie scale, but still seems unlikely.

[last stand]

Parsons is so 1 dimensional I wouldn’t

Unless I’m Pittsburgh lol. Parsons and watt oh my lord

[Mr B]

Micah would obviously go to an AFC team too. Not trading him within the NFC. ALSO I’m sending him to a bad team so get the best picks possible.

[Jaydubb]

2 FRP’s and peace out MF!

If you guys trade him I think you get more than that

I dont think anyone would give much more than that considering they have to pay him such a large contract. Maybe a team that still has its quarterback on rookie scale, but still seems unlikely.

Maybe. I don’t think they’d get a lot more but I think it’s possible they get a little more, meaning like 2 1sts and a mid round pick and/or a player going back to Dallas.

Here’s my thought process. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a 24 year old star pass rusher with 1 year left on his rookie deal be traded. The closest recent example that I can think of as far as age and talent is when Jalen Ramsey got traded to the rams for two 1sts and a mid round pick in 2019. But, obviously this is a cornerback being traded, not a pass rusher. Pass rushers are more valuable. Parsons is slightly younger than when Jalen Ramsey was traded as well. Ramsey was traded midway through his 4th year in the league, so slightly less team control.

[last stand]

Micah would obviously go to an AFC team too. Not trading him within the NFC. ALSO I’m sending him to a bad team so get the best picks possible.

If Micah asks to be traded unfortunately he has leverage. He’s still on a rookie deal. Also it’s very rare that players actually get to demand where they go

[Mr B]

If you guys trade him I think you get more than that

I dont think anyone would give much more than that considering they have to pay him such a large contract. Maybe a team that still has its quarterback on rookie scale, but still seems unlikely.

Maybe. I don’t think they’d get a lot more but I think it’s possible they get a little more, meaning like 2 1sts and a mid round pick and/or a player going back to Dallas.

Here’s my thought process. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a 24 year old star pass rusher with 1 year left on his rookie deal be traded. The closest recent example that I can think of as far as age and talent is when Jalen Ramsey got traded to the rams for two 1sts and a mid round pick in 2019. But, obviously this is a cornerback being traded, not a pass rusher. Pass rushers are more valuable. Parsons is slightly younger than when Jalen Ramsey was traded as well. Ramsey was traded midway through his 4th year in the league, so slightly less team control.

They will obviously pick up his 5th year option so he actually has 2 years left on his rookie deal. Also how was Khalil Mack when he was originally traded?