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[ItsDanger]

I legit do not understand the logic in trading Trent.

His value is down after a bad start, his spacing is valuable when his shots are falling (41% from 3 on this season, by the way) especially of late where he's been better and him being an expiring makes him a risk to trade for.

What are you expecting to get back for Gary? Because by all accounts, he seems far more valuable to the team than what he'll fetch.

You're not getting much back for him. Rumour last season the best offer was a 2nd round pick. Probably similar this year. If you're not going to have him back next season, might as well trade him. SGs is a very deep position and it should be possible to replace his production immediately. Don't crowd the roster with guys like this and be aggressive by trying out new guys

[CazOnReal]

I legit do not understand the logic in trading Trent.

His value is down after a bad start, his spacing is valuable when his shots are falling (41% from 3 on this season, by the way) especially of late where he's been better and him being an expiring makes him a risk to trade for.

What are you expecting to get back for Gary? Because by all accounts, he seems far more valuable to the team than what he'll fetch.

You're not getting much back for him. Rumour last season the best offer was a 2nd round pick. Probably similar this year. If you're not going to have him back next season, might as well trade him. SGs is a very deep position and it should be possible to replace his production immediately. Don't crowd the roster with guys like this and be aggressive by trying out new guys

It's better than nothing but it only reinforces that it's better to keep Trent than mess with team chemistry by replacing him with someone who may not gel as well off-court.

[ThatClockWork]

Getting rid of Chris Boucher and finding another big who can eat his minutes should be close to the top of this list. If we are saying players who are 30 do not fit our timeline, then ..

The power forward position is all but dead in the NBA. I'd rather play a true C and 2 6-9 SFs. Chris can't shoot but he takes a lot of shots. It's annoying.

I am reading nothing but truth here. When Chris is not intentionally boxing out/going for extra possessions, he gets beat out there. Unsure if its him or he is just playing how the coaching staff is telling him to play. Hard to watch but probably not all his fault solely.

[Mad Prophet]

To be fair to Boucher, he only shoots when he has the ball.

If Lowry/Jovic for Boucher/Shroder is available you take it and run.

[Tha Cynic]

To be fair to Boucher, he only shoots when he has the ball.

If Lowry/Jovic for Boucher/Shroder is available you take it and run.

Those were the secondary pieces offered in the Lillard trade. No way they're offering them for Schroder and Boucher lol

[Clutch0z24]

In what world is Jak getting traded, I don't understand the logic of some people

Its not that he isn't a decent starting C...The Only reason he gets moved is because he is at the age now he wants to be with a good team not a rebuilding team for years to come....He already said it so what if he says that to Masai?...Masai has him under contract for 3 more years after this one...But the worst thing for us (Learn from our previous mistakes) is holding onto an asset for too long and lose value....Trading him soon could mean we get back the most value rather than holding him for it to be known he wants out lessoning his value...Or him asking to be traded...Its best to just move on from guys who are not fitting the direction of the team....

We are not a playoff team, We will prolly have a few years of playing the draft....Jakob will not like that...And its pointless holding onto a player like this when we are not in position to winning anytime soon...Best to get assets from him that fit the timeline...

[Raptaurus]

Jakob resigned with us. There were really no illusions (unless you had blinders on) that we arent a winning team. He wanted get paid and I suppose that being a Euro, he doesnt mind playing/living in Toronto.

Just cause Toronto paid a premium in that trade, doesnt mean other teams will. I really doubt we will get more than two seconds for him. Having said that, he is a decent center and you need someone to play that position. Its also not easy to replace him. In terms of floor spacing, as long as you surround him with shooting, its not a problem IMO. He has a nice touch around the basket and he can be a good partner for Quickley in the pick and roll. Most importantly, defensively, he is above average.

Definitely it was the wrong move trading for him
In the first place but I think we are more or less stuck with him now until we can find a better and cheaper replacement.

[Clutch0z24]

Jakob resigned with us. There were really no illusions (unless you had blinders on) that we arent a winning team. He wanted get paid and I suppose that being a Euro, he doesnt mind playing/living in Toronto.

Just cause Toronto paid a premium in that trade, doesnt mean other teams will. I really doubt we will get more than two seconds for him. Having said that, he is a decent center and you need someone to play that position. Its also not easy to replace him. In terms of floor spacing, as long as you surround him with shooting, its not a problem IMO. He has a nice touch around the basket and he can be a good partner for Quickley in the pick and roll. Most importantly, defensively, he is above average.

Definitely it was the wrong move trading for him
In the first place but I think we are more or less stuck with him now until we can find a better and cheaper replacement.

This is far from true...We are not stuck with him at all...Many teams would need the skill set Jakob has....He would have alot of teams trying to get him if he were on the trade block....Yeah Jakob resigned here but lets not act like we were trying to rebuild either at the start of the season....He was traded here with Masai having a playoff run in mind, He resigned here with us thinking hes going to be playing with One of his best friends in Siakam and running it back with FVV/OG/Barnes to make another playoff push...

He resigned June 30th and FVV left on July 7th...Team started off bad traded OG/Siakam....Now they are heading in a complete rebuild with a totally new team + a new goal....To get younger and build around Barnes...

Jakob can be replaced you just have to try and make the right trade or Free agent signing....I personally just don't see Jakob wanting to stick around here and if we can get valuable assets for him why not do it now?....Jakob is not going to make us a playoff team anytime soon so we would be basically keeping him around just to have him till his value goes really low or we lose him for nothing...Sound familiar?

[SpezNc]

Jakob resigned with us. There were really no illusions (unless you had blinders on) that we arent a winning team. He wanted get paid and I suppose that being a Euro, he doesnt mind playing/living in Toronto.

Just cause Toronto paid a premium in that trade, doesnt mean other teams will. I really doubt we will get more than two seconds for him. Having said that, he is a decent center and you need someone to play that position. Its also not easy to replace him. In terms of floor spacing, as long as you surround him with shooting, its not a problem IMO. He has a nice touch around the basket and he can be a good partner for Quickley in the pick and roll. Most importantly, defensively, he is above average.

Definitely it was the wrong move trading for him
In the first place but I think we are more or less stuck with him now until we can find a better and cheaper replacement.

This is far from true...We are not stuck with him at all...Many teams would need the skill set Jakob has....He would have alot of teams trying to get him if he were on the trade block....Yeah Jakob resigned here but lets not act like we were trying to rebuild either at the start of the season....He was traded here with Masai having a playoff run in mind, He resigned here with us thinking hes going to be playing with One of his best friends in Siakam and running it back with FVV/OG/Barnes to make another playoff push...

He resigned June 30th and FVV left on July 7th...Team started off bad traded OG/Siakam....Now they are heading in a complete rebuild with a totally new team + a new goal....To get younger and build around Barnes...

Jakob can be replaced you just have to try and make the right trade or Free agent signing....I personally just don't see Jakob wanting to stick around here and if we can get valuable assets for him why not do it now?....Jakob is not going to make us a playoff team anytime soon so we would be basically keeping him around just to have him till his value goes really low or we lose him for nothing...Sound familiar?

When Poeltl signed Houston interest was already documented. FVV to Houston was announced like less than one hour after Poeltl.

For sure Poeltl was hoping we could keep FVV. But he would be naive if he thought he was definitely coming back.

When Poeltl was traded, then I agree. The prospect of playing with his friends Siakam, FVV and getting the bag from Masai was tempting for him.

Obviously now the situation has change.

I don’t expect Poeltl to be traded soon. But should we draft a C, should Porter continue to develop, I could see Poeltl being on trade block next TDL (i mean 2025 TDL)

[tdotrep2]

if we can only get some seconds for trent I'd rather just wait until the offseason and hope to resign him on a reasonable deal

[Clutch0z24]

Jakob resigned with us. There were really no illusions (unless you had blinders on) that we arent a winning team. He wanted get paid and I suppose that being a Euro, he doesnt mind playing/living in Toronto.

Just cause Toronto paid a premium in that trade, doesnt mean other teams will. I really doubt we will get more than two seconds for him. Having said that, he is a decent center and you need someone to play that position. Its also not easy to replace him. In terms of floor spacing, as long as you surround him with shooting, its not a problem IMO. He has a nice touch around the basket and he can be a good partner for Quickley in the pick and roll. Most importantly, defensively, he is above average.

Definitely it was the wrong move trading for him
In the first place but I think we are more or less stuck with him now until we can find a better and cheaper replacement.

This is far from true...We are not stuck with him at all...Many teams would need the skill set Jakob has....He would have alot of teams trying to get him if he were on the trade block....Yeah Jakob resigned here but lets not act like we were trying to rebuild either at the start of the season....He was traded here with Masai having a playoff run in mind, He resigned here with us thinking hes going to be playing with One of his best friends in Siakam and running it back with FVV/OG/Barnes to make another playoff push...

He resigned June 30th and FVV left on July 7th...Team started off bad traded OG/Siakam....Now they are heading in a complete rebuild with a totally new team + a new goal....To get younger and build around Barnes...

Jakob can be replaced you just have to try and make the right trade or Free agent signing....I personally just don't see Jakob wanting to stick around here and if we can get valuable assets for him why not do it now?....Jakob is not going to make us a playoff team anytime soon so we would be basically keeping him around just to have him till his value goes really low or we lose him for nothing...Sound familiar?

When Poeltl signed Houston interest was already documented. FVV to Houston was announced like less than one hour after Poeltl.

For sure Poeltl was hoping we could keep FVV. But he would be naive if he thought he was definitely coming back.

When Poeltl was traded, then I agree. The prospect of playing with his friends Siakam, FVV and getting the bag from Masai was tempting for him.

Obviously now the situation has change.

I don’t expect Poeltl to be traded soon. But should we draft a C, should Porter continue to develop, I could see Poeltl being on trade block next TDL (i mean 2025 TDL)

Point is this is a totally new situation than what Poeltl wanted...He doesn't want to be apart of a long rebuild situation and thats what we are headed towards....By the time we are any good or even close to a playoff team again Jakobs deal will be over...

Maybe we don't move him this deadline but forsure without a doubt Masai will be taking calls from teams wanting to trade for him...

Bruce Brown/Boucher/Schroder all included in the list of guys he will take calls on...Only guys not on the trade block this deadline is BBQ so expect everyone else to maybe be moved....If Masai gets a FRP + a decent prospect for Jakob he pulls the trigger....Maybe he even adds Jakob in a bigger package deal with Schroder or GTJR to bring in a really good young prospect...But i won't be shocked if Jakob gets delt..

[Clutch0z24]

If we can turn all these players into...

Brown-Grimes + Pick + Sal Filler
Yak/Thad-Herb/Naji/Lance (Sal Filler)
GTJR/Schroder-Wendell Carter Jr/Fultz
Boucher-W/E We get for him (IDK off top who will go after him)

Id be a satisfied Raptor fan
Barnes
Barrett
IQ
Wendell Carter Jr
Herb
Fultz
Grimes
Dick
Naji
Porter
Nwora
+ W/E we get for Boucher
*Go after Claxton in the offseason

All 26 and under....We would have a really fun + Young team....Doubt this happens but that would be my TDL moves if i had my way.

[Tom_Foolery]

Still feel we need to cash out for a pf.

We went from having too many 6'9 players to having too many guards. lol

[Raptaurus]

Some guys are totally fine with playing on losing teams for their entire career. I wouldnt be surprised if Poetl is one of them. He was with a basement dwelling SAS for a while without causing much of a fuss and then didnt protest being traded to a sub-500 team. We did a little better post trade but then lost in the play-in and then lost our starting PG all the while our marquee guys were being dangled in trade talks for rookies/sophomores. All of this doesnt seem like winning formula (at least definitely not in the short term). No matter what Masai was saying, the trajectory of this team looked downward. I would be very surprised if Poetl didnt see or notice all of that. I mean, Siakam was of his best buds. Yet he still resigned….

[Clutch0z24]

Some guys are totally fine with playing on losing teams for their entire career. I wouldnt be surprised if Poetl is one of them. He was with a basement dwelling SAS for a while without causing much of a fuss and then didnt protest being traded to a sub-500 team. We did a little better post trade but then lost in the play-in and then lost our starting PG all the while our marquee guys were being dangled in trade talks for rookies/sophomores. All of this doesnt seem like winning formula (at least definitely not in the short term). No matter what Masai was saying, the trajectory of this team looked downward. I would be very surprised if Poetl didnt see or notice all of that. I mean, Siakam was of his best buds. Yet he still resigned….

No one likes losing....And going years of being on a losing team can get to you...Especially if your not a young pup anymore....

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/raptors-poeltl-not-interested-rebuild

This is the thing...The guy came here with expectations of being apart of a winning team (Masai prolly telling Yak when he was traded here "You are the missing piece) selling him false hopes....Now he resigned to us thinking we would be a winning team with the guys he came into the league with (Siakam/OG)...Now hes on a totally new team with a whole new plan....

Yeah what can he do about it now hes under contract for 3 more years but i won't be shocked if he gets moved or even asks Masai lowkey to be traded to a good team...